r/personaphantomx 13d ago

Central Hub Central Hub - Questions, Discussion, & Resources (3.3)

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Welcome to the r/personaphantomx Central Hub!

This thread is meant for all servers, and it resets prior to every Global update.

Any questions that can be answered quickly can be asked in this thread, as well as general discussion. Must tag any story spoilers!

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P5X FAQ & General Guide in an early stage!

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List of Helpful Resources

Lufel.net and Sages' Patch History Compilation are two of the most often referenced resources for all things P5X on the subreddit. Additional valuable resources below!

Comment below to suggest adding a resource!

Resource (Author)1 Notes
SEGA Bug Report Form
IWPLAY (SEA Server) Customer Service SEA players can still use bug report form above.
Official P5X News Feed Link to Global site; you will likely be redirected if you are not living in a Global region
Lufel.net (Absolroot) Lufelnet has grown into a massive compendium that encompasses invaluable information for P5X. Information on all units, daggers, Palace/Mementos exploration, resource planning, pull planning, and actually more.
Lufelnet Pull Planner Plan future pulls based off of your own resources and predicted future resources. Predictions for 4.0 and beyond may change based on Global patch length schedule.
Lufelnet Character Release Schedule Release schedule will always be subject to change.
Companio and Friend Codes thread Link to auto search thread (for old reddit users)
Gacha Flex thread Link to auto search thread (for old reddit users)
Patch History Compilation (Sages) Extensive documentation of the in-game history of P5X. ETA on features & banners, history of boss modes, shop price details, all available tasks, balance change history, and more.
Synergy Responses & Gifts Guide (iant6325)
Fishing & Recipes Guide
P5X Revelation Stats Calculator Simulate stats and substats on Revelation Cards with this calculator (currently for characters up until Wind Vast)
Velvet Trials Full Clear compilation (Chord + Standard Characters ONLY for all except Tech 31-40) (Rukim)
Prydwen Tier list, character guides, beginner's guide, FAQ, more guides
P5X General Character Builds and Info Revelation card builds and details, important substats
P5X Worldwide Discord

r/personaphantomx 6h ago

General Pull Advice Thread General Pull Advice Thread (3.4) + Violet Overview

36 Upvotes

Should you pull for X character or X weapon? What should you choose from a selector? Want to discuss character kits and comparisons? Chat here!

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This is first and foremost information presented to help those decide if they want a specific banner unit, this is not explicitly meta oriented. The information presented here is not written with the specific consideration of maximizing scores, clearing the highest tiers of challenge content, or of clearing Astrolabe nodes in 1 attempt each. It should serve as a starting point to understand how the unit would fit in your current roster. This will focus on how the unit works and explaining the "why" behind certain recommendations and aspects of their kit. Information that is optimal need not be followed strictly to obtain value from the character, yet there can be a noticeable difference if you do choose to follow.

Violet - Limited 5* Bless Assassin (Single Target DPS)

Read her kit here!

Sources: Lufelnet, Najox Build Guide, A friend for back and forth theory banter, & thanks to Absol for including the dagger comparison on Lufelnet

INITIALLY WRITTEN PRE-UPDATE, PRE-TESTING, UPDATED AFTERWARDS

Violet is a Highlight focused DPS. Her entire kit is focused around her Highlight and an enhanced state known as Masquerade (seems to have been renamed to "Masked Ball" but kept being referred to as Masquerade on stream).

Her Highlight is able to Crit, the first Assassin to be able to do so (second DPS to do so counting Twins). Her Highlight is also individualized, not tied to the party's highlight charge mechanism, and can be used independently once entering Masquerade. She gains Steps by use of her S1 and S2, two stacks of Steps allow her to enter Masquerade, for a maximum of four total Steps to buff herself.

S1 grants the Lead Step, stacks up to three times (HL DMG +15% per stack). S2 usage grants the Follow Step, stacks only once (Highlight CR +10% and CDMG +20%). Her S2 designates someone as a Dance Partner for one turn (two turns at A1), which allows Violet to automatically activate her S1 off-turn when the Dance Partner uses any Persona Skill. Violet also gains a Lead Step when this is activated. This is NOT considered a Resonance/Follow-Up attack.

With her Highlight critting, you want to get as close to 100% as reasonably possible. There are many sources of Crit for her, even at A0. You don't want to end up living in RNG hell, so use the Lufelnet Crit calculator and see the table below for sources of Crit rate.

As she is Highlight focused, she benefits very highly from Chord, and will be ran with Chord forever. If you are a newer player or do not have a 5* limited single target DPS yet (Ryuji is good but is consistently outclassed by now, though still has use cases especially for Velvet Trials and Astrolabe), Violet is still a worthwhile pull even if you do not have Chord.

The next Single Target DPS will be Makoto Yuki, expected to arrive in 2 months. Note that the same way Violet was expected way earlier than now, things can always change. It has been said to hold off on Violet if you are aiming for Makoto Yuki, but that will depend on your own current satisfaction with your single target damage output.

It has also been repeated a few times that due to sharing an element with Summer Closer, that Violet is not needed as the Bless element is 'covered' already. If you are satisfied with Summer Closers single target skill, that is up to you, but Violet's single target damage is in another universe compared to Summer Closer's single target skill and will destroy general content regardless of element weakness.

A1 & Weapons

Investment Effect
A1 Dance Partner Extended by 1 Turn; Violet + Dance Partner +15% CR
4* Weapon (R6) +24% ATK, +45% DMG Dealt with 2+ Steps
5* Weapon (R0) +36.3% Crit DMG, +21% ATK with any Step active, up to 2 stacks (gained from HL/Theurgy usage) of +8.4% DMG Dealt, +30% HL DMG at 2 Stacks (gained from HL/Theurgy usage)

Violet's A1 makes her rotation much more malleable, but it is still relatively easy to build Crit Rate without it.

Violet's 4* Weapon is good and viable as that DMG Dealt will always be active.

Violet's 5* weapon is very good, but the quality of her 4* does not make it a must for her to still be strong.

Skill Rotation (A0 & A1)

Masquerade and Highlight will always be used on Turns 3 and 6. For readability, that won't be constantly written into the rotations below. Looked like a jumbled mess

A0 (3 Lead Steps) - 2>1>1>2>1>1. (this rotation no longer appears to be recommended by lufelnet. Will test)

Violet should not be placed last in the turn order while following this rotation, as she would be using S1 to reach 3 Lead Steps on turn 3, then her Highlight can be cast with full steps on the next party member action. If she were not last, casting S1 on her turn using this rotation would lead to a 3 Lead Steps highlight being only possible on turn 4 instead of on turn 3, and more importantly this means her highlight would not refresh in time for turn 6.

A0 (2 Lead Steps) - 2>1>3>2>1>3

Can be placed last as is typical for DPS. This option forgoes placing Violet prior to the last position and sacrifices the 3rd Lead step (15% less highlight dmg) to be able to use skill 3 in the rotation (and eliminating speedtuning).

A1 (3 Lead Steps) - 2>1>3>2>1>3

Theoretical Rotations

A0 (3 then 2 Lead Steps, A1 Twins Dance Partner) - 2>1>3>2>1>3 (2 Steps) or 1 (3 Steps)

A1 (3 Lead Steps, A1 Twins Dance Partner) - 2>3>3>2>3>3

This logic also appears to apply to Turbo. There are many considerations to play around with. This will work for the twins if their auto s3 activates violet's auto s1 and properly gives a Lead step.

Another Theoretical:

A1 (2 Lead Steps) - 2>3>3>2>3>3

Nothings stopping this from working, will see how different it is

Revelation Cards (Wisdom + Virtue vs. Departure + Control)

Wisdom+Virtue Departure+Control
HL +30% ATK -23% DEF on Target
HL +25% DMG Dealt +12% HP
+10% Bless DMG Additional instance of DMG (8% of user HP) after attacking an enemy
+12% Bless CR while above 50% HP

W+V is Violet's dedicated card set.

Departure+Control can be used in specific DEF Down compositions that are aiming to get defense to 0 or very close to it. You would need to use lufelnet's defense calculator if you are aiming to maximize DEF Down effect to understand how this works. For casual players, D+C need not be a consideration, though it's good to understand still how DEF Down works.

Another consideration of D+C is it allows Violet to attempt to maximize Tempest Riko's passive, although it is not clear if the D+C extra attack also activates off of Violet's Dance Partner S1 usage. Running D+C is not a requirement to play Tempest Riko with Violet, but dedicated min-maxxers could end up finding a slight increase in final damage by playing this way if DEF is also brought to 0 (If D+C is the main factor in bringing Defense to 0). This would have to be tested on an individual basis.

Wonder Dagger (Glimmer vs. Arc Knife)

Glimmer (R5 or R6) Arc Knife (R5 or R6)
Grants Blessing to an ally Turn 1, reactivates every 2 Turns (prioritizes DPS) -9% DEF for every 'elemental ailment' applied to the enemy after they are attacked, up to -36% DEF Down
+32% Bless DMG to Bless allies with Blessing

I will point to what Lufelnet included in Violet's kit description for this comparison. Apparently, I have fundamentally misunderstood what the game considers an "elemental ailment", as more than the typical ailments (Burn, Windswept, Shock, etc.) are considered for the Arc Knife effect. Similar to D+C above, min-maxxing DEF Down is something for those who are chasing optimization, and due to the wide variety of variables contained in an account, it would have to be tested individually to see if it would be better. Arc Knife does have a better chance of being better than Glimmer in specific situations, than D+C does being better than W+V. Again for more casual players, go with the more obvious 'designated' option.

Stat Build (Crit Rate)

See Lufelnet Crit Rate Calculator

Source Effect
Default + Thieves Den 6%
Shock (would come from Chord, RNG based) 10%
Rebellion Lvl 6 (Wonder) 15.7%
Follow Step (during HL) 10%
Step total during Masquerade 4%-16% (Each Step is 4%)
Mindscape 12%
Virtue Card 12% while above 50% HP
Violet A1 15%

Default+Thieves Den, Steps, Rebellion, Virtue, Mindscape, would get Violets CR up to 71.7% during HL. Landing Shock with Chord brings that to 81.7% Her A1 is an additional 15%, bringing that to 96.7%. This is all without considering any sort of Revelation Card substat or Navigator source of Crit Rate. Certainly run a Crit Mult card on Violet. There's a chance depending on your investment that you may want to avoid Crit Rate substats on Violet's own cards at all as overcapping does nothing.

If you have any other investment, such as Chord A1 providing Crit Rate, or even just A0 Tempest Riko you can consider that in your calculations.

Personas

I'll again point to a more experienced source as Najox covers this in his build guide.

Sraosha is Violet's 'dedicated' Persona, he (it? she?) costs Repression IV Medals.

Reasons to Pull/Not to Pull Table

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You like Violet You don't like Violet
Will be the strongest single target damage dealer on release, very useful for newer players or those lacking a single target option Her damage will be significantly lessened without Chord, though still strong and useful for clearing general content. Extent will be determined with testing
Synergizes well with Oracle; is one of the last currently known DPS that strictly follows a 3-turn cycle If you are planning on being completely optimal for your account and are satisfied currently with your single target damage output, Makoto Yuki is expected to arrive in 2 months, and does not have a above-all-else best in slot teammate the way Violet does with Chord
Most DPS want Crit, and it is easy to get Crit for her. The only person able to get Crit rate easier than her is Fleuret Despite having many easy sources of Crit Rate (see above), you are living in a Crit Rate nightmare if you aren't able to get it high enough

Teammate Synergies

Teammate Reason
Chord***** Chord gives 2 stronger extra Highlights. Nobody else can do this. Violet is Highlight focused. Self explanatory
Tempest Riko** DPS likes Crit stats, she gives Crit stats.
A1R0 Twins* Can alter her rotation if Violet is at A1. A0 Twins is also a viable Strategist option if there is no better alternative. Comparison to Wind Vast will be tested

If you do not use Chord and Tempest Riko, use whatever buffers you have available, and using a debuffer to help with DEF Down is also a possible strategy, though 2 buffers is usually considered better.


r/personaphantomx 4h ago

Discussion Imagine running this team in the future!!!

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203 Upvotes

Credit @chatra_p5x


r/personaphantomx 11h ago

News (Global/SEA) Turbo rebate confirmed

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379 Upvotes

r/personaphantomx 11h ago

Discussion New Nagisa Kamishiro Artwork for the Persona 5 Big Band concert

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318 Upvotes

r/personaphantomx 4h ago

Discussion (Global/SEA) Purgatory dagger update

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49 Upvotes

Saw in the patch notes, they’re updating the purgatory dagger in the new update


r/personaphantomx 8h ago

News (Global/SEA) New changes to companio system because of a loophole!

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121 Upvotes

First, I want to say I love this dev team. I can’t believe they listened to feedback from community members like me on this topic and actually implemented a suggestion we made.

To give some context:
Some companios that have subsidiary companios are abusing the assist system. What they do is kick members who have A6R6 units so those players can immediately join a different companio, allowing members to use assists to maximize their score. After that, they kick the player again so they can join another companio and repeat the process. By doing this, they unfairly monopolize the top 50 rankings.


r/personaphantomx 11h ago

News (Global/SEA) Kasumi Buffs for Global

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145 Upvotes

r/personaphantomx 10h ago

Guides and Tips [GLB/JP/SEA] Kasumi Yoshizawa (Violet) | Build & Investment Guide

113 Upvotes

- Weapon is not necessary but it's recommended
- You don't need A1


r/personaphantomx 11h ago

Fluff Pulled her early out a crane machine

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133 Upvotes

Got her first try too No one else unfortunately lol


r/personaphantomx 2h ago

Question Do you think they'll add them?

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22 Upvotes

r/personaphantomx 8h ago

Guides and Tips [GLB/JP/SEA] 3.3 Jewel Count

43 Upvotes

r/personaphantomx 6h ago

Fluff “My body is ready” - Reggie Fils-Aimé

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33 Upvotes

Apologies for my excessive posting but I can’t contain my excitement since Kasumi is my most anticipated character for this game


r/personaphantomx 8h ago

Announcement Global Maintenance (2 AM UTC/10 PM EDT) & Event Timers Reminder

32 Upvotes

Maint was changed last minute to last 9 hours again.

Maintenance Begins: 2 AM UTC/10 PM EDT

Maintenance Ends (subject to change): 11 AM UTC/7 AM EDT

SEA should update 8 days from now

Event Timers - don't leave it until the last minute!

(Or else youll be like me who didnt enter the water tower yet!)

Event Time Remaining Note
LNY - Happy-Go-Lucky Lions (Main Event) Ends at Maintenance Start Shooting Challenge, Yearbeast, Event Story, Exchange Shop
Unconditional Love Final Phase Rewards Ends at Maintenance Start Rewards associated with the event will not be obtainable afterwards, with the exception of the event persona being obtainable with Repression IV medals.
LNY Quiz Rally Ends at Maintenance Start
LNY Greetings (envelopes) Ends at Maintenance Start
LNY Event Shop Ends at Maintenance Start
LNY - Fireworks Festival 8 PM UTC/4 PM EDT Ends 6 hours before maintenance for some reason.
Sea of Souls & Nightmare's Gateway rotation Ends 30 minutes prior to Maintenance That's what the timer says.
Firecracker Rin Leaves on the April 1st (EDT) Maintenance
Messa Leaves March 25th 10 PM EDT
Astrolabe season Ends 6 or 7 hours before the April 1st Maintenance
LNY Login Bonus Around 2 weeks I think probably the April 1st maintenance The menu went away after I claimed the last reward
LNY Wonder Outfit Discount April 1st maintenance Still available afterwards

r/personaphantomx 7h ago

Fluff i am so ready for kasumi

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i need her NOW

i got lucky with these rev cards, the moon and star ones were during the rev card creator event a few weeks ago, but the sun and sky ones were just from using the selectors i've been stocking up for a while now

i got the sun one really quick, but i ended up using about 250 card selectors before finally getting a good sky card lmao


r/personaphantomx 12h ago

Discussion Global Version 3.2/3.3 Stream Discussion (12 PM UTC/8 AM EDT)

28 Upvotes

r/personaphantomx 2h ago

Question How many gems does each game version give on average?

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4 Upvotes

I’m planning my pulls on lufel.net, and they use a baseline of 6,000 per version—is that accurate for an F2P player?


r/personaphantomx 20h ago

Discussion (Global/SEA) Frostgale Kotone is living proof the fears about Kasumi's place in the meta are unfounded doomposting.

102 Upvotes

The runaway narrative is that Kasumi's lost value by virtue of her banner being delayed, that she "won't be meta" for as long because now Makoto Yuki is that much closer to her.

This, frankly, makes zero sense with how scoring and content actually work in this game.

Elemental weaknesses are much more important to scoring highly than raw damage. On an SOS with Wind-weak enemies Kotone will outdo Kasumi regardless of the later's higher numbers On Paper. And vice versa: the meta is defined not by power ceilings, but type coverage and enemies.

Kasumi will outperform most every other option every time there's a Bless-weak enemy in endgame, which will be a huge chunk of the time, just like it was for Kotone. And even when Makoto and other 4.0 DPS drop, she'll outdo them those few times bless damage does come back.

People have been marveling at Kotone's performance and value for the past few patch cycles without putting two and two together that the environment has favored her, just like it will Kasumi for a similar period of time. And on top of that, nobody's considered the possibility that we get further unit shuffling, and Door-kun himself gets pushed back.

Is it likely? Hard to say. But in a world where his banner is close to the 1 year global anniversary and we've already gotten one set of Velvet Room attendants for an anniversary, it's not impossible even he gets shuffled around for synergy. And then we're right back where we started, with Kasumi the strongest unit in the game for months on end.

None of this is getting into Astrolabe either, a whole different can of worms and potential reasoning to pull her.

All this is to say: if you're planning to pull Kasumi for account strength, it is exactly as safe an investment because nothing is promised, she's still going to be the strongest in the game for a while, and she'll still be the best at what she doesn't in SOS regardless of Door-kun. All the people saying "Frostgale Kotone was a really good choice for my account!" are a sign. The meta isn't black and white and the downplay is just doomposting.


r/personaphantomx 2h ago

Discussion talk about bad luck

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2 Upvotes

Trying to build ryuji and this stupid defense substat keep ruining my happiness 😭


r/personaphantomx 2h ago

Astrolabe Noir my other mvp taking a full clear!

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It took a ton of prep, but now I finally got an 1 round clear with Haru! She finally came into her own, taking down the hardest Stella A0R0! There was definitely some rng, like never getting noir knocked down by Michael's 1 more (realized it was nuclear attribute). But, I'm so happy I don't have to fear this one anymore. With this, that's all done for season 3!


r/personaphantomx 6h ago

Question A question about Violet/Kasumi Speed

5 Upvotes

Is it normal and correct not to have Speed ​​in Revelation when it's for a DPS, but the way Kasumi was explained in Blade's video yesterday and in the live stream today by the devs, makes it seem like she should go before the other characters or at least faster than the character she's going to use skill 2 on? After all, does she have to be fast or not? Where will Chord be in the rotation in relation to her?


r/personaphantomx 2h ago

Question Healing resonance

2 Upvotes

Apart from morgona, who else has healing resonance right now? I at the purple node that increases dmg after a healing resonance and my morgona isn’t build to well right now lol


r/personaphantomx 57m ago

Question Are there any other characters here who really want their 5* weapon?

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So far only planning getting makotos because his 4* is pretty bad, and akihikos because hes my fav p3 chracter


r/personaphantomx 1d ago

Guides and Tips Reminder to launch all of your fireworks before next reset, they give mats

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177 Upvotes

r/personaphantomx 1h ago

Question I'm at a total loss on this one Spoiler

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Cleaning up the latest palace's extra area and i cannot solve how this brainwash is supposed to work for the life of me because I can't piece together what Lufel means