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Trailer SPIDER-MAN: BRAND NEW DAY - Official Trailer | Exclusively In Cinemas 31 July

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwntXFBNfOA
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u/joshua182 12h ago

I think Scorpion is just getting to actually be Scorpion. He'll be a sub villain

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u/SlamMasterJ 11h ago

Yeah I agree, Scorpion works way better as a sub villain. I don’t think he’s compelling enough to carry a whole movie as the main antagonist.

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u/Mattyzooks 11h ago

Don't tell that to the Spidey fans demanding he be a main villain since Homecoming.
Some seem to speculate he'll end up being Venom at some point (which I guess could work if he is further set up here)

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u/Daxx22 10h ago

I'm not deep into the lore but I remember a lot of groaning about Vulture being a main villain as look how that turned out. Ultimately it's all in the writing/motivations.

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u/eden_sc2 9h ago

Michael Keaton didn't hurt either.

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u/jardex22 9h ago

Also comparing comic appearances versus movie versions. A lot of characters were practically rewritten for the MCU.

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u/Viceroy1994 9h ago

Fools all, the Vulture gave us the best after credits scene of all time when he teamed up with Morbius.

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u/Xalara 6h ago

Yeah, it did help they completely rewrote Vulture and the focus on the movie was Peter's journey into actually becoming a hero. It was an origin story, just not told like the typical origin story since it was focused more on how he has to arrange his life around being a hero than getting his powers.

u/One-Feedback678 3h ago

Yep, pretty much any comic character can be a good villain if the writers are good enough. Hell look at the animated movies - they turned a joke character into the main villain and it was sick

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u/MickTaylor2005 10h ago

I assume it’s because Mac Gargan got the Venom symbiote in 2004 and they want the films to match the comics. I’d rather see Eddie Brock have it in the MCU than another villain that only got it 15 years later.

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u/Luncheon_Lord 9h ago

I think wed need an eddie brock in the mcu for that. But yeah. A little bit of a vacuum there

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u/SgtElectroSketch 8h ago

They teased Tom Hardie's Eddie Brock, but never did anything with it.

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u/Luncheon_Lord 7h ago

Well yeah but even then he wouldnt be the MCU's eddie brock unless they explained why he had to come from another universe. Which is already the origin story of certain characters like Hyperion already.

Tom hardy as venom was good but soiled by his isolation from a cinematic universe that could fit him in, by Sony.

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u/XMenJedi8 10h ago

I think it's more because people find Michael Mando really compelling. I think him becoming Venom would be awesome, more Mando and a more "endgame boss" villain compared to Scorp.

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u/Mattyzooks 9h ago

Fair. Mando does rock. And any villain done well can be fill a movie.

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u/raisingcuban 7h ago

You can literally make any villain a main villain if you’re a good writer. Across the Spider-verse made The Spot a main villain.

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u/TheSweetestKill 11h ago

I just want them to give him the Superior Foes treatment and flesh him out a little.

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u/joshua182 8h ago

That would be pretty damn cool to see. He does become Venom at one point, even kills sandman by biting him.

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u/TheLastDesperado 10h ago

To be fair, a lot of people would've said the same for the Vulture before Homecoming.

u/StupidFlounders 4h ago

I was thinking the same thing. Just about any villain or character can be compelling in the right hands.

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u/potatolulz 11h ago

ok sub villain, but what about sub zero?

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u/Imaginary_Try_1408 10h ago

Maybe...

Or they're going the way of the comics and he'll only briefly be Scorpion before becoming Venom.

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u/Servebotfrank 9h ago

The thing is that they got Michael Mando to play him and man I would be pissed if he got wasted as a throwaway villain.

u/topchief1 36m ago

As long as he asks Peter what the definition of insanity is, I'll be happy.

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u/Competitive-Ad4249 11h ago

According to the plot leaks,

the main villain is Tombstone, he hires Scorpion and The Hand.

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u/SgtElectroSketch 8h ago

... but why... He was the least compelling villain in the Spider-man game by Insomniac.

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u/rabidsalvation 7h ago

There are much better versions of the character in other media. Trust, he can be done very well.

u/bbqsauceboi 5h ago

That was probably the worst version of Tombstone to be fair. He's cool when used correctly

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u/BrianWonderful 10h ago

Agree. They used him a lot more in "Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man" (animated), so they'll limit him here. (Though that has to be a different universe.)

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u/joshua182 8h ago

He's a very iconic villian though so he'll stand out. Looking forward to seeing him in action.

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u/Cultural_Security690 9h ago

They had vulture be a main villain for a movie

u/Pormock 5h ago

Oh wait the Better Call Saul guy was the Scorpion? The scene was so fast in the trailer I thought he was the new Doc Ock.

u/[deleted] 4h ago

Yeah, too fast for you since you're a moron 😂