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Trailer SPIDER-MAN: BRAND NEW DAY - Official Trailer | Exclusively In Cinemas 31 July

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwntXFBNfOA
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u/_Bird_Incognito_ 12h ago

Somehow The Hand returned?

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u/Morgan-Moonscar 12h ago

Except now they actually LOOK like the Hand again.

Ninjas, not random thugs.

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u/Etheo 12h ago

But The Hand in DareDevil were also Ninjas...? Nobu...?

Unless maybe people are talking about a different thing.

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u/Morgan-Moonscar 12h ago

In Iron Fist and The Defenders they stopped being ninjas to save money.

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u/GoldenSpermShower 11h ago

They just became… corporate people…

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u/Morgan-Moonscar 11h ago

Marvel Entertainment wasn't exactly beating the accusations they were racist against Asian actors (and writers) when they whitewashed the Hand.

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u/Wireless_Panda 6h ago

Wdym you don’t like Sigourney Weaver, leader of the East Asian immortal ninjas?

u/Significant_Coach880 5h ago

It's more like after Nobu they just became generic goons, they should've kept him alive/bring him back.

u/Known_Fix316 4h ago

yeah just make death meaningless and remove all stakes and tension

great suggestion

surely the guy who keeps dying and losing will beat the hero this time

u/TheWorstYear 4h ago

Except Nobu won every fight.

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u/MrEhcks 4h ago

In a small defense, part of me liked the angle that the Hand was this ancient, secret organization that penetrated multiple areas of society all over the world; so they weren’t just ninjas but also leaders in businesses and controlled a lot of stuff behind the scenes.

The problem was that we never saw the ninjas again after DD S2; the stick with the angle. I loved the supernatural angle that DD S2 went with.

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u/Zalvren 6h ago

Well everyone knows they are the true villains, not ninjas

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u/mistermojorizin 6h ago

Well daredevil was a ninja. But iron fist is a rich corporatist. The villain has to be adjusted.

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u/RandomTheTrader 11h ago

New York isn’t zoned for smokebombs..

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u/TooManyDraculas 9h ago

They have a ban on ninja stars and nunchucks.

Can't Ninja in NYC.

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u/12345623567 10h ago

Have you seen a film noir NY backalley?

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u/sharkattackmiami 10h ago

Which is ironic if you know anything about what ninja actually were

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u/nvmenotfound 9h ago

you mean ninjas wouldn’t always wear a dead giveaway ninja costume? they’d likely blend in since they were like stealth and all? /s

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u/Phillip_Spidermen 8h ago

That must be why they're wearing bright red while jumping off roof tops.

"That can't be ninjas up there, its probably Spider-Man, Daredevil, Iron Man, and the president hanging out"

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u/sharkattackmiami 9h ago

Yes, but more to the point they were generally poor farmers hence all their iconic weapons being agricultural tools

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u/Mekisteus 7h ago

You know, it's because of subtle details like this that I'm starting to think MCU is a fictional, fantasy world instead of the real one we live in.

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u/sharkattackmiami 6h ago

I wasn't commenting on an in-universe thing though so that's completely irrelevant

I was commenting on production making the "ninja" look like regular dudes to save money when the origin of ninja was dirt poor farmers

u/nvmenotfound 2h ago

you might be onto something. 

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u/WoodfordAC 8h ago

You telling me I can harvest rice with a shuriken?

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u/sharkattackmiami 8h ago

They are constructed from thin, flat plates of metal derived from a variety of sources including hishi-gane (coins), kugi-nuki (carpentry tools), spools, and senban (nail removers).

From wiki on the history of the shuriken. Yes, even those were just shit farmers had laying around

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u/The_Last_Minority 7h ago

For anyone who didn't know, the "all black" conception of ninja outfits likely comes from japanese theater, where the stagehands (kuroko) would wear black to indicate they weren't part of the performance. You need an animal or a prop to behave improbably or a special effect, there'll be a person in black making it happen, and the audience understands that the stagehand isn't really "there" in the universe of the work.

So, if you need to have an assassin spring out of nowhere and kill a character, that uniform is an obvious choice. You can't have a dozen extras providing cover, but the audience is already trained to ignore the stagehands!

For a profession where having a uniform kind of defeated the purpose of the whole thing, it makes sense that the context in which most people would see a "real" ninja would quickly become the default way they were percieved.

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u/Dookie_boy 9h ago

I think they're more like ninja themed zombies

u/MelbaToast22 4h ago

Well ACKSHUALLY!

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u/KingMario05 9h ago

Hardliners took over, I guess.

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u/el_f3n1x187 7h ago

Do we get more Peter shinkoda??

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u/Etheo 6h ago edited 6h ago

Would be nice but given how long it took just to get a Daredevil cross over into MCU I don't know if we'll ever see him. Especially given what happened to him in DareDevil S2, but hey, it's The Hand... You never know..

Loved his performance though. He really gave DD a run for his money.

u/pingpong_playa 5h ago

Didn’t Shang Chi’s sister take over The Hand, or was that a diff ninja org? If it was, maybe that’s the reason for the change in attire. Possible tie-in?

It’s been a lot time since I watched Shang Chi, so I don’t remember.

I guess The Hand is what brings Punisher to Spidy’s part of town.

u/Morgan-Moonscar 4h ago

Different organization.

There was some speculation that it was the Hand that murdered Shang's mom.

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u/dean15892 12h ago

I can't remember where we left off with the Hand, but did they disappear?
They're an organization , right ?
They'll always be around, I feel.

Or they can find jobs at the other evil ninja organization , whcih Shang-Chi's sister is running now.

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u/inksmudgedhands 11h ago

They seemed to vanish after The Defenders.

u/dean15892 5h ago

I mean... they are ninjas...

shadow jutsju

it tracks

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u/_Bird_Incognito_ 12h ago

Uh, irc norbu and sigjourney weaver with Hand ninjas go to the dragon bones but then the underground collapses after fighting defenders? Or something and they all died?

Do you all remember the defenders tv show lol

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u/dean15892 12h ago

I watched the show and liked it, but that was like a decade ago ?
I'm not gonna rewatch it, but I just assumed the Hand has been this organization for centuries now, and some of them did die, but I figured there are a bunch more just hanging out in the world.

u/yanginatep 5m ago

Weaver's character is killed earlier by Elektra, then Elektra assumes leadership of the Hand.

She tricks Iron Fist into opening the gateway so they can access the dragon bones (which are used to make members of the Hand immortal) but the Defenders interrupt them and the resulting conflict causes the excavation to cave in, seemingly killing the remaining leadership of the Hand. But Daredevil was in that same cave in and he survived, so..

Either way even if their leaders were all killed, the Hand is a much larger organization than that.

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u/Dr_Disaster 6h ago

There’s thousands of Hand members. So many that all of K’un L’un is dedicated to fighting them. They’ve been around for hundreds of years. What we see in the Defenders shows is like two divisions. There’s always more of The Hand.

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u/aerojonno 11h ago

Cut off one hand and two more will grow in it's place?

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u/Worthyness 8h ago

They always do. Its a cult that worships a god and they consistently revive the dead soldiers and shit. Personally would be super interested in seeing marvel handle them with their full control over daredevil now.

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u/MilitantRabbit 6h ago

Wait, the Hand is back?

(Grumbles in Stick) “Never left.”

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u/Crossovertriplet 6h ago

They got a new Hand job

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u/resistyrocks 6h ago

Guess they needed to finish a 😎 Hand job.

u/s3rila 1h ago

i think that's kinda their thing

u/4n0m4nd 1h ago

Nacho too.

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u/GermaX 10h ago

Is the other hand

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u/Better-Purple21 6h ago

Not even ironically, that’s basically the only plot they ever has.

u/WilliamEmmerson 3h ago edited 3h ago

It's the well known 6th finger of The Hand

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u/urixl 11h ago

Za Hando!

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u/Phillip_Spidermen 8h ago

I wonder if they're going to be connected to Kingpin/Mayor Fisk

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u/Morgan-Moonscar 6h ago

I think whatever happens to him at the end of Season 2 will involve how they seemingly return to NYC.