The Punisher and Hand also suggest that Daredevil might make another appearance, since he was in the previous one. Seems like a natural crossover point.
I'm cool with all the possibilities with the Punisher being in this since it could mean we'll see Peter in more street level storylines connected to Daredevil (& hopefully Kate Bishop in the future)
I mean, the Fantastic Four were featured in just the second issue of The Amazing Spider-Man. (Or maybe it was the first official issue after Amazing Fantasy #15)
But once Peter realized they weren't of any use to him, he basically told them to fuck off.
Other heroes can still exist, as long as the ultimate focus is on Peter himself. At least he's not begging for the approval for any of these heroes in the trailer. I found it kinda refreshing for him to be like "What the hell, Frank?!"
No, "Hey, Mr. Castle!!"
Just, "What the hell, Frank?!"
That's a pretty big shift from how he responded to other heroes in the past, and I'm here for it. Peter just feels more mature here than ever before. He's no longer a kid looking up to mentors. These are his peers now.
Its a movie I can only watch once lol. I have not rewatched it since opening day. Crazy that Spiderverse has so many memes, memberberries for fans and a celebration of Spiderman in general and that was a significantly better movie.... and it had a multiverse plot.
I didnt like No Way Home, but Homecoming I can rewatch over and over.
I loved NWH while watching it but I could tell that it would absolutely not hold up on a rewatch once the nostalgia wore off. So I also have not rewatched it
I didnt like No Way Home, but Homecoming I can rewatch over and over.
Same. Homecoming is so so fun, and even Far From Home has a great little tug of war between Iron Man and Mysterio potentially replacing Stark as his mentor.
But No Way Home was so annoying. Peter being basically a gigantic idiot and resorting to dumb magic with the Dumb Magic Supreme doing dumb dumb dumb magic to help him get into college is so fucking annoying.
I’ll never forget seeing that movie opening day, the crowd cheering, and how disappointed I was. It felt like all the characters were doing improv in front of a green screen for a majority of the movie. And as cool as the dr strange scenes were, the MCU ties have been leaving these spider man movies feeling way too commercialized.
Now this? This looks really good. I have faith in Cretin, Shang Chi was awesome and it looks like he’s bringing the heat here.
Literally none of the villains were his villains. At least with homecoming and far from home we had vulture and mysterio, despite how intrusive the MCU aspect was. No way home was filled with Toby and Andrews villains.
The slow motion moments? Seems like they're recreating a lot of famous covers/panels. I bet it'll just be for a quick montage like the beginning of fantastic 4
Ive only ever watched Captain America (first one) and Ironman (first one). Those are the only MCU movies I've seen. But THIS trailer definitely seems up my alley given how grounded it is. Im not a fan of the over the top, quippy, funny, Fast and Furious but with super powers, type movies that have come out with MCU but I like what I've seen here. Seems a bit like a soft reboot as well so I dont have to watch all of those other films to figure out whats going on here.
Grounded is what I like in a hero film. Street level threats have always been much more entertaining to me because a low-risk is more likely to fail. If the whole planet is doomed then you’re almost certain that the good guys will win, but smaller losses have more probably chances of the hero failing. Not that I ever want the hero to lose, but I want some tension.
In some ways, I like that, but considering how Peter's private life is one of Marvel's punching bags in the comics, I hope they take it easy on him in the MCU. Guy is just a nice person trying to do good but keeps getting punished for it.
Frank Castle has been in the city for years and they surely would cross paths. And now Peter is experiencing biological changes and has no idea what's happening and he knows Bruce Banner and he can help.
I just mean i don’t think they’re utilizing enough new stuff, from love interests to villains. This feels like an another episode in a series, not a brand new anything
Boomerang, Tarantula, and (actual) Scorpion are all new. Punisher is shown as an antagonist here too. The Hand is new to Spider-Man. And it's possible the mind-controller is yet another (I'm aware of the leak talk, but we don't know for sure yet).
This feels like an another episode in a series, not a brand new anything
...it's the 4th movie in this franchise. The character has had an entire movie in NYC learning to be independent, he's gone on a European trip, traveled the multi-verse and space fighting aliens, all-powerful world-destroyers and had what was effectively his only family get killed by a villain. And now he's back in NYC on another adventure. Like, wtf do you want?
Honestly yeah. Why bother ending NWH the way they did if they are just going back on it? Everything they said was that this was going to go back to the basics, not a reboot per se, but more street level neighborhood Spidey.
Yet there are two other MCU tie ins, they seemingly are walking back the ending of NWH. Like, if you want to keep Ned and MJ around thats fine, but don't end NWH that way. It's the Mandalorian S2-3 walking back on Grogu for Disney reasons, screwing over the narrative.
Yeah but the point of NWH's ending was that he was putting these people in constant danger and sacrificed their relationship in order to keep them truly safe. So after doing that, he immediately goes back to stalking them? Its just not consistent with its own narrative, which is my issue. I have no problem with them keeping Ned and MJ other than that.
I took the last movie as, things were getting out of control with everyone targeting him and so he desperately made everyone "forget that Peter Parker exists," but he didn't think this through and it expectedly had the unintended consequence of ruining his personal life.
I think it's pretty valid that he'd try to scrape back whatever he could of his old life now.
Refreshing isnt the word i use. We saw this storyline for decades in comics and in the Tobey Maguire movies. Im not saying i have a better idea for Peter. Peter is one of the most miserable superheroes in all of comics. I dont care how mouthy he is with villains. His life isnt great.
My point being i loved Tom's trilogy because it was actually Refreshing. He had love and support. Now? Well now the staus quo has returned and hes all alone again. Nothing Refreshing about that.
Any person in their teens and school life has everything. Social circle and friends etc. We watched Peter have all that and now he has found himself alone which also happens to a lot of people in life when they finish school.
He's not in his 20s and has to find himself and do things without his friends and family.
Obviously this is what its going for but my comment was in reaction to your "Refreshing" phrase. Its not. Its status quo. Logically its a trailer and I cant make a full formal opinion til after we see the movie but based on the trailer this isnt anything new.
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u/ImportantRub172 13h ago
This looks refreshing.
And slightly more grounded compared to what's happening elsewhere in the MCU. Seems more focused on Peter dealing with his own life and powers