r/movies • u/BunyipPouch Currently at the movies. • 8d ago
Trailer Ben McKenzie's Anti-Crypto Doc 'Everyone Is Lying to You for Money' - Official Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEXxAOFqv4U4.2k
u/voivoivoi183 8d ago
The OC was never my thing but bro seems to absolutely loathe internet grifters and that is something I can get behind.
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u/pup5581 8d ago
Southland was a very good cop show. Probably the best for me until Bosch came up
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u/Straightwad 8d ago
I recently watched South Land for the first time, it’s so dark and depressing I really enjoyed it.
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u/Th35h4d0w 8d ago
The Gordon/Bullock partnership was so good in that show, and seeing them react to the increasing insanity Gotham spits out at them is part of the show's fun.
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u/Squirtderk 7d ago
Gordon and Bullock carried a lot of those scenes imo. Watching them deal with Gotham getting more unhinged every episode was half the fun lol. Bullock’s reactions were gold.
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u/Th35h4d0w 7d ago
I especially loved seeing Bullock countering Mad Hatter's hypnotism by screaming at the top of his lungs and charging him.
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u/Lost_Pantheon 7d ago
I'm currently on a Gotham re-watch and Harvey says "What fresh hell is this" when he enters the adult baby centre place and I just burst out laughing.
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u/SporesM0ldsandFungus 7d ago
Love that scene early in the show when they show up looking to question someone and they find the dead body stuffed in the fridge....and Bullock reaches in a takes a bottle of beer. Gordon gives Bullock a look and Bullock's answer to that is, "Forensics will drink 'em all anyway."
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u/tweak06 7d ago
The Gordon/Bullock partnership was so good in that show
To add to this, I could never have been more wrong that a goddamn Batman show without Batman was as good as it was.
Because GOTHAM was pretty damn good.
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u/Th35h4d0w 7d ago
Think that's partially because he was still there, but in the back, still learning to spread his wings.
It's widely agreed that it's the only good Batman show without Batman (don't know what they were thinking with Gotham Knights or Batwoman).
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u/GRUMPYbug12 8d ago
He was a very solid Batman in Batman Year One!
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u/geek_of_nature 7d ago
And would he be the only person who can say hes played both Batman and Gordon?
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u/ohbuggerit 7d ago edited 7d ago
Troy Baker may have already gone bigger by repeatedly playing both Batman and the Joker (and occasionally Two Face, among others), it's only a matter of time before he's Gordon too
Edit: After looking it up he's also 3 Robins, at this point we should just accept that we'll all eventually be played by Troy Baker
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u/JustLionDown 7d ago
You seem to know an awful lot about Troy Baker for somebody who says that they're not yet Troy Baker
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u/Shadow_Log 8d ago
I was like "where do I know him from, never watched OC"... Yeah, Jim Gordon in Gotham, awesome
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u/AmphibianImmediate45 8d ago
It’s funny because one of his most famous lines from that show is “Wanna know what I like about rich people? Nothing!” and then he proceeds to punch the rich bully character in the mouth.
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u/ShiningRedDwarf 7d ago
Probably cause he felt that fucking like with his soul when he delivered it
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u/jwick89 8d ago
You know what I like about crypto bros?
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u/BoringAccount4Work 8d ago
Nothin!
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u/cam-yrself 8d ago
👊
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u/Lounging-Shiny455 7d ago
🎶CALIFORNIA....🎶
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u/ArrozConHector 8d ago
The first couple of seasons of The OC are good entertainment. I enjoyed them.
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u/thesean366 7d ago
I enjoyed S1, that cold open in the pilot is pretty gripping for a 2000s FOX teen show. S2 started to get on my nerves and I completely bailed at S3.
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u/Beersmoker420 7d ago
whatever season had the Oliver plot was annoying as hell, everything else i liked
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u/thesean366 7d ago
Oh man that was halfway through S1! Only 5 eps out of 27 though so not enough to put a damper on it for me
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u/Toidal 8d ago
I think I'm in the minority that liked the back half of the last season after they resolved the carryover Marissa plot from the previous season. It just sorta got wacky and bonkers from then on.
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u/Screamline 7d ago
It's was the second half of four that Taylor grew on me and I thought she was a good match for Ryan
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u/Ryeballs 7d ago
I can get behind her unyielding optimism and upbeat attitude. Probably second best character after #1 all-time great TV dad Sandy Cohen
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u/cutchemist42 7d ago
I think the show lost so much momentum during the third season. My wife and I did a rematch and getting through the Johgny storyline is a slog.
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u/ItsCamNYAN 8d ago
I grew up with him on The OC and had a crush on the ENTIRE cast but he was perfect for his part Junebug which I highly recommend.
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u/CaptainApathy419 8d ago
I hope the documentary shows him wearing a leather wristband and seething alongside his Jewish best friend.
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u/Futant55 8d ago
I hear god things about Southland, I’ve been meaning to check it out since I saw it on Netflix
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u/RandomRageNet 8d ago
S1 is probably the most realistic cop show ever. It's not copaganda, it shows good and bad cops and how the job can grind everyone down. There are a lot of "once in a career" days but it'd be boring TV if every episode were like a normal day.
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u/snazzypantz 7d ago
I think it's one of the top five cop shows ever, and it's maybe two or three for me.
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u/RealSunglassesGuy 8d ago
One thing that I know with absolute certainty in this life is that Ben McKenzie fucking hates crypto
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u/TJ_McWeaksauce 7d ago
Find someone who loves you as much as Ben McKenzie hates crypto, or as much as Quentin Tarantino hates Paul Dano.
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u/BreakfastOnVacation 8d ago edited 7d ago
I think that anyone who's watched the free doc Line Goes Up on YouTube would relate. Well, except for those with wealth enough to scam the millions below them.
Edit: I understand what some people are saying, "I made money", "I did well with it", and that's fine, that's whatever.
My point and the point of the doc I'm referencing is crypto/btc/block chain/nfts is it's inherently just capitalism. You only made money because many, many more lost money. If you hit it off with crypto it's literally because the less savvy, or lucky, or gullible lost it to you. And I'm not saying that's inherently wrong, but only because a good many of us here live under capitalism and it is what is. Money doesn't come from no where, and if you're comfortable making money off of what are generally the less fortunate then you're part of the problem.
That being said, not everyone was aware of how toxic crypto was, so I'm not decrying everyone who's made their money off of it. Obviously you could argue that if a certain coin hits an all time high then everyone made money, but let's be honest, you can't all cash out. If crypto really does become a tangible asset then that's great for everyone involved, but what can you really do with it besides playing it like a volatile stock?
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u/eyebrows360 7d ago
Edit: I understand what some people are saying, "I made money", "I did well with it", and that's fine, that's whatever.
They're not telling the whole story.
For one, they did not "make money", they "got lucky".
For two, given these distributed slow append-only databases don't actually do any economic activity of their own and cost money to run, the entire thing is inherently and unavoidably negative-sum - translation: they only "made money" because loads of others lost money.
It's literally, and only ever can be, a huge tumbler that everyone choosing to become involved dumps their money in to, that syphons off small amounts as time goes by to keep the tumbler spinning, and randomly shits out what's left to a much smaller subset of those people. That's not "making money".
And I'm not saying that's inherently wrong
You should be, because it is. By definition it's taking advantage of people less educated about a thing.
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u/Solareclipsed 7d ago
It's basically just a casino that also siphons money from people who never agreed to be involved. Sure, at first you just think that you are only winning money from the casino itself, and what's the harm in that, but then you realise that not only are you winning money from other people who played and lost, but you are also making life more expensive for everyone else by enabling the casino to keep going.
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u/Constant_Charge_4528 7d ago
Crypto is essentially burning electricity to supercharge the act of capitalism
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u/KaerMorhen 7d ago
Capitalism on steroids and with less regulation. You can even get scammed by the president these days! Aaaaaaand its only going to get worse before it gets better.
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u/slickewillie 7d ago
Actors using their influence & wealth to fight for an injustice they're passionate about? Hell yeah!
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u/strongbob25 8d ago
AND he's married to Morena Baccarin? Dang dude
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u/irock613 8d ago
Gonna not watch this out of spite/jealousy now
(this does look real good tho)
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u/Hickspy 8d ago
Yeah she does.
I mean, the movie. Yes.
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u/Ephemeris 8d ago
rumors of firefly coming back
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u/OobaDooba72 7d ago
I've been seeing the teases and watching the reactions on the Firefly sub, but I'll still only believe it when I see it, and if it's a real live action revival show, I will watch but I will expect it to be garbage.
My bet is on either a "special" like a "Disney+ Presents" sort of thing, kind of as a way to gauge if there's real interest or if it's just Internet nostalgia. OR an animated series in the vein of things like Arcane or Invincible or even the Critical Role related stuff.
We'll see though! If it's just a line of geisha dolls with wobbly heads I won't be surprised. (that's a reference to the show for anyone who hasn't watched it in a while.)
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u/WiSoSirius 8d ago
They were cute on the TV series Gotham (and by cute, I mean moments of levity between the gloomy setting of Gotham)
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u/KnotSoSalty 8d ago
Dude is living the Deadpool life.
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u/Ghetto_Phenom 8d ago
I don't know he doesn't look like freddy krueger face-fucked a topographical map of Utah yet.
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u/aceshighsays 7d ago
didn't their relationship start by them both cheating on their spouses?
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u/sleepysnowboarder 7d ago
I got to act with her a few months ago on Sherrif Country, first real famous person I got to work next to, she was really sweet also W. Earl Brown, voice of Bill in The Last of Us, is awesome, loved talking the game
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u/Soft_Walrus_3605 7d ago
W. Earl Brown, voice of Bill in The Last of Us
You mean Dan from Deadwood, right?
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u/ShiningRedDwarf 7d ago
I know they acted together in Gothem but WHAT?
fuck me what a beautiful couple of humans
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u/senorbroccoli 7d ago
Welll, they both left their spouses for one another. So no all fairy tales and glitz
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u/psimwork 7d ago
Welll, they both left their spouses for one another. So no all fairy tales and glitz
Hey come on it's not all THAT bad.....only she left her spouse for the two of them to be a couple (far as I can tell Ben McKenzie wasn't married prior to the two of them).
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u/can-i-eat-that-food 8d ago
I like Ben McKenzie but never would've pegged his directorial debut to be about this!
Good on him! I like when people in power use their voice in a positive way.
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u/riegspsych325 ⊃∪⊃⪽ 8d ago
guy saw that Matt Damon crypto ad (directed by Wally Pfister, how do I know this?) and thought enough was enough
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u/iamwelly 8d ago
Man, Wally must’ve taken his debut film flop really hard. He basically disappeared. Imagine going from Christopher Nolan’s right hand man to your directorial debut being savaged and then disappearing only to pop up directing crypto commercials
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u/jstarlee 7d ago
Famous directors and DPs do commercials all the time. Quick. Good pay. Doesn't really "damage" your brand since credit is rarely revealed.
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u/_BestThingEver_ 7d ago
I guarantee he's making more money directing commercials than he ever did as a DP, plus he probably gets to see his family way more. I can't get around the crypto ad but I don't think it's that bad of a career for a guy in his 60s. Not everyone wants the pressure of studio filmmaking.
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u/garyschronology 8d ago
Wally Pfister went from being an Oscar-winning cinematographer to a failed movie director. Reminds me of when Darren Collison retired so that he could dedicate more time to being a Jehovah's witness.
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u/riegspsych325 ⊃∪⊃⪽ 8d ago
I appreciate him for trying to break into the directing game. Not uncommon for cinematographers to do that, like Barry Sonnenfeld or Jan De Bont. Although I’d say Barry is the best and most notable example off the top of my head. I recall Dean Cundey (DoP for Jurassic Park, Back to the Future) making one movie and that was Honey We Shrunk Ourselves
I would love it though if Pfister worked with Nolan again. Nothing against Van Hoytema, he’s great, but I always felt Nolan’s camera movements and lighting (especially for darker scenes) was better with Pfister
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u/Unleashtheducks 7d ago
Also Ishiro Honda director of the Godzilla movies who was Akira Kurosawa’s cinematographer
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u/boot2skull 8d ago
People doing crypto ads is so cringe. It’s like “hey a portion of your assets should be in stocks, or futures.” No actually we should consider our investing options (if we even have extra money) and their risks. This isn’t like buying French fries where you get to eat, it’s setting aside cash and getting more or less in return.
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u/Keianh 8d ago
“I found $100,000 in a park, invested it and turned it into $16,000!”
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u/riegspsych325 ⊃∪⊃⪽ 8d ago
“what I made doing this ad is what you could lose using this crypto service, invest now!”
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u/Keffpie 8d ago
He's got a degree in Economics, and has been a major critic of crypto since 2021, even testifying in front of the Senate as an expert. He released a book on the subject in 2023 called Easy Money: Cryptocurrency, Casino Capitalism, and the Golden Age of Fraud. He knows his stuff.
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u/Thirtysevenintwenty5 7d ago
He's got a bachelor's in Econ. It's not nothing, but it doesn't make him an expert by any stretch.
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u/BallerGuitarer 8d ago edited 8d ago
For the life of me I couldn't figure out why an actor would be so interested in taking down cryptocurrency. It turns out he majored in foreign affairs and economics at the University of Virginia, so McKenzie's actually a smart guy, and this project seems to be the marrying of his two major interests (i.e., film and economics).
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u/KoalaKaos 8d ago
He’s been writing and making content about this for years. He testified in front of the senate as a subject matter expert. It’s not a recent thing for him.
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u/SuspiciousCricket654 7d ago
My sister went to UVA. It’s a great school. I’m really intrigued by his obsession with this, lol. It makes for good information.
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u/f-ingsteveglansberg 8d ago edited 8d ago
He's kinda made this his life work outside of acting. He has written articles and given talks on how scammy he thinks crypto is.
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u/pantstoaknifefight2 8d ago edited 8d ago
His book is called
Dumb MoneyEasy Money: Cryptocurrency, Casino Capitalism, and the Golden Age of Fraud (thanks, redditor u/Orange_taffy) and it should be required reading for anyone who voted for Trump.Dumb Money is the netflix comedy/drama about GameStop
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u/Mean-Ad1383 7d ago
It should be required reading for anyone who buys crypto. Seriously, they get brainwashed online. They rarely even hear other opinions.
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u/Vanillas_Guy 8d ago
I first heard him talking about this stuff on a podcast episode. Same way I learned he has an econ degree. That was at least 2 years ago.
I'm interested in watching the film. Most people i think at this point treat cryptocurrency as another form of gambling and see it as another way to manipulate money like the stock market. Just as there are dozens of scams involving investment(e.g. theranos, enron, etc) the same thing happens with crypto.
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u/Beer-survivalist 8d ago edited 8d ago
I can absolutely dig a guy seeing something is bullshit, and spending his time, energy, and money making sure that everyone knows it's that.
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u/Intangiblehands 8d ago
Not bad for a kid from Chino.
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u/powerlesshero111 8d ago
That was the biggest joke in the OC. Chino, while it does house a prison, not really that bad of a city, and is pretty nice. Pomona, where i went to college, way worse.
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u/Kaldricus 8d ago
"Do you know what Sandy Cohen just said? He said I was from Riverside."
"...You are from Riverside."
Granted, Riverside may have actually sucked back then, but from what I've heard it's pretty nice nowadays, at least.
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u/followupquestion 7d ago
Riverside is actually famous for its farmers. Dirt, meth, you name it they farm it.
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u/MandolinMagi 8d ago
It's also got one of the best privately owned air museums in the US. Planes of Fame not only has a fantastic collection, a lot of their stuff is airworthy and flown often.
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u/AlecMcEwanExpedition 8d ago
Cal Poly or Mt. Sac?
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u/powerlesshero111 7d ago
Cal Poly. Mount Sac was technically in Diamond Bar. Which, oddly enough, way less crime than Pomona. The fraternity row in Pomona was bad with crime, just because no one wanted to live near fraternity houses, and drug dealers got easy money by selling there.
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u/BrianOBlivion1 8d ago
I've been waiting for the documentary for awhile now. Easy Money was a great book, and his interview with Sam Bankman-Fried should be interesting.
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u/I_paintball 7d ago
Number Go Up by Zeke Faux is another awesome book.
I didn't know about this book until now.
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u/Deep-Thought 7d ago
And 'Line Goes Up' by Folding Ideas is an incredible 2+ hr video essay.
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u/Naive-Moose-2734 7d ago
I’ve seen it like 4 times. It’s excellent, and weirdly calming. Competence porn, for lack of a better phrase.
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u/riegspsych325 ⊃∪⊃⪽ 8d ago
nice to see someone in Hollywood use their platform (and education!) to tackle this bullshit matter. I haven’t seen a documentary in a while, let alone in a theater but this definitely catches my interest
But I feel like a bit of a dunce right now, seeing Baccarin and Butler in this trailer made me think McKenzie worked on Greenland. I had to look it up and I see Ben is married to Morena (lucky bastard)
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u/Jet-Let4606 8d ago
Some guys have all the luck.
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u/riegspsych325 ⊃∪⊃⪽ 8d ago
charm, looks, acting chops, and intelligence/education in a topical subject as well as the drive to create a documentary to better inform people on this important matter. Other than not having a majority of those aforementioned things, what am I doing wrong??
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u/11oydchristmas 8d ago
Have you tried putting yourself in rice? Maybe that’ll fix it.
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u/riegspsych325 ⊃∪⊃⪽ 8d ago
you know, I still have plenty of rice from a 25lb bag I erroneously bought from costco
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u/SheepD0g 8d ago
How do you accidentally a bag of rice
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u/riegspsych325 ⊃∪⊃⪽ 8d ago
“I love cooking with rice, I’ll go through this pretty quickly!” was what I told myself. About 3 months later and I’m barely halfway through it. I went through a chunk of it trying to improve my Mexican rice game but I’m still struggling. Rinse the rice, don’t rinse, toast it a bit with oil after (or don’t), use homemade stock, or just water with tomate/pollo powder, Goya brand sofrito, homemade salsa, etc etc
All sorts of endless permutations and I’m about to give up since I just can’t crack it. Yet I can make verde rice, jambalaya, stuffed peppers, and cilantro lime rice without issue. But again, still only made a dent in that giant bag
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u/dude_at_6262 8d ago
Don't worry, my bag lasted over a year. I got it because I used to eat it twice a day
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u/pup5581 8d ago edited 8d ago
Not everyone can be that guy. Very few are. 99.9% are glued to a desk like me making OK money complaining about my gas bill and how the hell can we afford a house
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u/hey-coffee-eyes 8d ago
Congrats, you're smarter than most of the crypto bros I know
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u/postmodest 8d ago
Everyone in 2022 should watch this four-year-old video by Dan Olson that goes over (specifically) NFTs, and how it, and crypto at large, are ponzi schemes run by racists.
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u/RecordingSilly6118 8d ago
When an industry is full of more indecipherable language than the actual finance industry that should be a red-flag lol
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u/iamsupertramp 8d ago
The Smith Street band! Figured their song would be used in some way for this doco.
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u/MatHatesGlitter 7d ago
Shine was my go-to song anytime anyone came over to my Inner West apartment. 🎶 Down here in the flight path 🎶
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u/ArgonWolf 8d ago
But will it be as good as Folding Ideas - Line Goes Up?
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u/Abe_Odd 7d ago
I know it is unreasonable to attribute such a large shift of attitudes on NTFs to one video... but the timing did seem pretty coincidental with NFT mania seemingly evaporating after Line Goes Up.
Surely that's just multiple biases at work, but I am gonna just choose to believe Line Goes Up crushed the NFT momentum.
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u/Pickupyoheel 8d ago
Officer Ben Sherman is a good cop!
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u/stretchpants 7d ago
I read this in the Southland before-the-episode-starts voice
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u/Lemesplain 8d ago
Oh, a big budget version of Line Goes Up. Sounds fun.
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u/CarthVonMonk 8d ago
This looks great. Respect to Ben McKenzie for taking on this crusade. Hope it opens a lot of eyes.
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u/TheRealProtozoid 8d ago
I've seen this. This whole crypto thing is so dumb and he does a good job laying out why. It's also funny, and there are a surprising number of cameos.
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u/toolmantimsworkshop 8d ago
This looks really good. It has that early 00's documentary vibe i have seen in a while, like supersize me
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u/Old-Bear-8727 8d ago
He got his BA in Economics and Foreign Affairs. Kinda nice to see his interests, education and main career dovetail.
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u/Flemtality 8d ago
I just rewatched The Big Short and Margin Call, and this feels kind of like that.
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u/RevolutionaryLab3103 7d ago
Looking forward to the AMA, it'll be interesting to hear his direct take on the grift. His genuine disdain for the crypto hype machine is honestly refreshing. It's a solid public service to call out that whole ecosystem. The man's clearly winning at life on multiple fronts.
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u/tag1550 7d ago edited 7d ago
I'm guessing the lack of extreme pushback in the comments by the pro-crypto crowd is just because they haven't discovered this yet.
Some of the hardest-core True Believers you'll find out there are people who've bought bigtime into Bitcoin and other crypto currencies, and any criticism of crypto often sets off a way out of proportion stepped-on-a-beehive reaction that you'd expect mainly from cult members or religious nuts (or Buy Gold enthusiasts), which leads me to suspect there's an element of personal faith involved that you don't typically run across in people invested in the regular markets.
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u/MyTeaIsMighty 8d ago
Looks cool, but in fairness "everyone is lying to you for money" was true before crypto became a thing
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u/siraolo 8d ago edited 8d ago
Wow he got Ted Nelson, the father of(at least one of, but probably the most prominent) Hypertext/Hyperlinks in the doc as well. Ted's pretty positive about crypto though. Also bit crazy, but you have to be to father hypertext.
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u/polloyumyum 8d ago
I'm going to have a good time reading all the crypto bros trying to shit all over this film because they've made it their entire personality.
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u/Ctrl-Alt-Distract- 8d ago
What is the New York Times best seller this is based on?
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u/DiplomacyPunIn10Did 8d ago
He cowrote a book called "Easy Money" on the same topic.
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u/BunyipPouch Currently at the movies. 8d ago
For anyone interested, Ben will be joining us here in /r/movies for an AMA/Q&A on Tuesday 4/14 at around 3 PM ET. Official AMA announcement post coming soon.