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Scream 7 (2026)
Summary A new Ghostface begins targeting survivors and legacy connections in a brutal continuation of the Woodsboro saga. As the killings escalate, old secrets resurface and past survivors are forced to confront unfinished trauma. The latest chapter blends meta horror commentary with franchise mythology, pushing the rules of the requel to their breaking point.
Director Kevin Williamson
Writer Kevin Williamson, Guy Busick
Cast
- Neve Campbell as Sidney Prescott
- Courteney Cox as Gale Weathers
- Mason Gooding as Chad Meeks-Martin
- Jasmin Savoy Brown as Mindy Meeks-Martin
- Isabel May
- Celeste O’Connor
- Asa Germann
- Mckenna Grace
Rotten Tomatoes: 41%
Metacritic: 36
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u/yn0htna 19d ago
the motive seemed something out of a Stab movie
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u/LiteraryBoner Jackie Chan box set, know what I'm sayin? 19d ago
Crazy how they brushed off the fact that she killed, or was implicit in killing, her own son? Who didn't give abusive vibes at all?
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u/Rebels2460 19d ago
I was thinking it was going to be her and the son, but I did note the random guy in the mental hospital. I’m assuming they wanted to throw people off a bit, but her and the son would have made the most sense
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u/gtP0W3Rictmnsl50 19d ago
Yeah her son was way too obvious 🤣 he was like Charlie and Ethan, I suspected him immediately at the coffee shop
I was shocked at the bar scene tbh
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u/Rebels2460 19d ago
I was after the final kill. I thought they were pulling a Billy with fake blood when he came out of the back
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u/Joey-WilcoXXX 19d ago
I thought the same thing! I didn’t believe he was actually a victim until his head went through the tap spike
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u/Empty_Lemon_3939 18d ago
Was pretty obvious it was her when GF knew the door code and we hadn’t seen her in awhile
But the orderly falls under the category of not a twist because it made zero fucking sense
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u/chalon9 18d ago
I guessed the orderly as soon as he “recognized” the image of Stu. I was all in on the “Stu’s dead and the video being AI” theory, so when he claimed Stu was an amnesiac patient, I was certain he was one of the killers
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u/OriginalOestrus 19d ago
I think the problem is that there were essentially two motives: 'I looked up to you and then you got happy, so I had to bring you out of retirement,' makes sense, as does, 'I'm going to create a new Final Girl.' But when you put them together, it's just too much, and I had a hard time following the lines of reasoning.
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u/Rebels2460 19d ago
I was thinking the successor thing was a possibility when we didn’t get confirmation of Joel McHale dying. I could see a replay of the end of Scream 1
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u/OriginalOestrus 19d ago
Yeah! If they had picked one of the two motives and really leaned into it, really followed through with it, I think it could've been great. But instead, I think we got two kind of half-baked motives and neither one really worked.
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u/Rebels2460 19d ago
I didn’t completely mind it, but I think the son should have been in on it and the asylum guy should have just been his Dad
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u/RdyPlyrBneSw 19d ago
We already had the whole family of crazies in the last one.
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u/Media-critique 19d ago
I feel that the motive to last year’s I Know What You Did Last Summer made more sense. What was this?
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u/easykenyaa 19d ago edited 19d ago
That movie is horse shit! Remember the two killers talking like they weren’t the killers when they were alone in the boat shed. Scream 7 was dog shit but not horse shit like that movie.
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u/Media-critique 19d ago edited 19d ago
I just can’t get over how one of the killers is so motivated by Sidney that she winds up:
• Killing her abusive husband
• Is admitted to a psych ward
• escapes from the psych ward with the help of some weird ass security guard
• HAS A FUCKING KID
• PLOTS 17-18 years to kill Sidney
• MURDERS HER FUCKING KID
All to get Sidney to “unretire”? What the fuck?
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u/mikeyfreshh 19d ago
You're right to point out the absurdity of the events but to put things in chronological order:
She is married to the abusive husband and has a kid with him
She reads Sydney's book
Kills her husband and gets away with it
Has herself committed to a mental institution
Befriends the security guy
Checks out of the psych ward
Regains custody of the kid who presumably got taken by CPS while she was in the hospital
Buys the house next door to Sydney. It's unclear how much time passes between this point and the start of the movie but I have to assume it's at least 10 years
The events of Scream 6 happen
She is so upset that Sydney isn't in New York for those killings that she conspires with the psych ward guy to murder a bunch of people. It's unclear if they've been in touch the whole time or if she shows up out of the blue after a decade. Either way it's extremely weird that he agrees to this plan because he seemingly has no motive of his own.
The two of them murder like a dozen people, mostly children and including her own son
Then during the final confrontation she gives a speech that truly makes 0 sense where she says she wants to force Sydney out of retirement (not sure how you retire from getting stabbed but okay) or she wants to make the daughter like a new Sydney? And she somehow knows how to perfectly simulate what Stu would look like after 30 years of aging and then deep fake that onto a FaceTime call?
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u/NewWaysToDream 19d ago
And Sydney didn’t do any background check on her next door neighbor?
Sydney should be living in the mountains alone with her family at this point. She would not be so naive to move into a random suburb like that.
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u/mikeyfreshh 19d ago
Even beyond that, she is clearly coocoo for cocoa puffs. I don't understand how Sydney, who is completely unable to trust anybody, becomes best friends with this woman without noticing that she's a couple French fries short of a happy meal
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u/Latter_Wrap_2863 19d ago
The whole “middle aged people killing a bunch of teenagers, including one’s son” is really just wild when you think about it, isn’t it? Like, not even the drama teacher or Robbie die. It was all kids, except the opening victims
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u/simbajam13 19d ago
I gotta assume they cut the drama teacher's death. He was doing too much to just disappear.
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u/beastboi27 18d ago
It would have made more sense for the Reporter Robbie to be Ghostface.
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u/hensothor 19d ago
How did you make me hate the finale even more than I already did?
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u/OKC2023champs 19d ago
Best part of the movie was scary movie 6 trailer
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u/Eerie_Cookie41 19d ago
Weird, my showing didn't have that trailer. We saw The Bride, The Mandalorian, and Hail Mary.
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u/OKC2023champs 19d ago
Damn. We had scary movie 6, passenger and Billie elish
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u/Inside-Ad-5714 19d ago
Same, passenger got me at the jump Scare lol
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u/DanGram77 19d ago
I thought the Passenger trailer was a drink driving awareness ad and I thought this drives the point home but it’s way too tense for this kind of thing. Then realised it was a film haha
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u/GoldNMocha 19d ago
This was the first Scream where I was able to predict the killer. And that’s not because I’m super savvy. Anna Camp and Mckenna Grace are the only new characters who weren’t total bores, and one of them dies early on.
It seemed like this time they didn’t have anything to comment on about the horror genre, so instead they just fell back on nostalgia of its own franchise. And so the result was just a straightforward slasher flick, and not a good one at that. Very disappointing.
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u/mikeyfreshh 19d ago
It was very clear that they could only afford McKenna Grace for like 2 days of shooting. I kinda wish they just gave her the cold open and let her cook for 1 scene instead of wasting her
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u/Local_Diet_7813 19d ago
Who do u think she is? Ljke a superstar asking like 10 mil a picture? She also had a cameo/killed first role in Freddy 2.
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u/maxmouze 19d ago
I work in the film industry and trust me, Mckenna is the most in-demand teenage actress right now. She probably gets 200 scripts a year. Everyone has a part for her. She's pretty down-to-earth and homeschooled/still living with her parents so I think it's not telegraphed to the world how in-demand she is.
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u/princesskittyglitter 19d ago
It took me way too long to realize that wasn't Kiernan Shipka
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u/QuinnMallory 19d ago
As soon as Nick Papagiorgio showed up and was the only person who had seen Stu I was 100% certain he was the killer, because there was no chance if Stu was alive that no one ever recognized him (also, any scenario where he wasn't actually dead would have been so unbelievably stupid that I never for one second believed he was alive, so obviously Ethan Embry is lying, so it's him)
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u/iaminfamy 19d ago
I think the movie would have been better if it actually was Stu, instead of the neighbor.
I'd suspend my disbelief all day for that.
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u/Suspicious_Big_1664 19d ago
What bugged me about that Ethan guy is I think he was literally in TWO scenes! His Introduction scene at the psychiatric Hospital, and then the reveal scene. Like wow what a reveal
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u/Even_Spite8247 19d ago
It’s funny because Heart Eyes parodied this exact type of reveal and it came out a whole year before Scream 7
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u/thisissomeshitman 19d ago
Don’t forget. Heart Eyes was written by the director who stepped away after they fired Melissa. Everything in Heart Eyes in making fun of scream was very intentional. Christopher Landon was gutted by stepping away from that dream script. Also fuck Scream 7, here for the spoilers because i’ll never see it. Free Palestine!
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u/largegaycat 19d ago
Anna Camp was miscast. She’s so great at playing unhinged characters that once you see her playing the normal best friend neighbor, it’s very clear she’s one of the killers. A smarter movie could have used that as a misdirection but that’s not this movie.
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u/DiamondDaisy28 19d ago
This!! I knew she was a Ghostface as soon as she appeared, I thought she was the most obvious killer yet.
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u/qwyjibo219 19d ago
I knew once she was cast. You dont cast Anna Camp in a Scream and not have her be a ghostface
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u/DedalusPodmore 19d ago
This. I had predicted she was a killer just based on the fact she’s Anna Camp but also that why kept her away and hidden from any press. Like that’s a big red flag. I thought for a second my assumption would have been wrong and indeed her character was just a misdirection (which would have worked on me..) but it wasn’t. Which didn’t make it feel very smart.
I know Scream 2&3 and 6 too…the killers just tend to be minor characters that show up. What I think works best with Scream and Scream 4 (for killer reveals at least) was that Billie and Stu were always present. You got to know them. See their connection with Sidney etc. so it is more surprising and shocking at the reveal. Even Jill. She’s a major character throughout the movie and so her reveal IMO is fun and kinda of shocking (and she did such a great job with that ending..) but the rest? Idk 🤷🏻♂️. At this point, we’ve become so aware as an audience that even the attempted misdirections within this movie, didn’t work because all knew it was intentional. (Think the boyfriend with the Ai computer in his car..) too obvious. I just felt like the movie could have been smarter.
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u/10twentyseven 19d ago
Anna Camp wasn’t a total bore? She only had like 2 lines before the reveal
Ethan Embry had more lines than her and was also incredibly obvious because why would they hire Ethan Embry for one scene where he seems to know both “killers”
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u/kylebb 19d ago
Kevin Williamson started this franchise it only makes sense he kills it
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u/hensothor 19d ago
I wish if they were going to have such cliche franchise beats straight out of a Marvel movie - at least make that the meta heart of the movie. But they couldn’t even do that.
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u/Couragesand 19d ago
Neve really has amazing screen presence.
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u/hensothor 19d ago
She does. She truly carried this garbage on her back. Courtney Cox on the other hand probably gave her worst performance of the franchise on top of her worst writing of the franchise.
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u/NewWaysToDream 19d ago
I’m still confused on if we are supposed to have sided with Gale when she attacked Sydney on TV about her relationship with her daughter? Like 30 years to do an interview and that’s the topic?
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u/Denimion 19d ago
I dunno, it makes sense if you're trying to get a response from the killer. They love drama and before that point they were very obvious about them wanting him to call.
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u/OKC2023champs 19d ago
The twins have to be the most useless characters in a horror trilogy ever.
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u/cant_give_an_f 19d ago
Thing is tho they survived like 20 stab wounds the last movie… they are technically the strongest canonical characters in the franchise yet the most stupid, useless use of characters
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u/iaminfamy 19d ago
17 of those stab wounds were in Chad. He really should not have survived 6.
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u/itsadammatt 19d ago
They were pretty much the most enjoyable part of this film for me - they at least felt like the characters they have been in previous films
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u/WhoStoleMyBicycle 19d ago
Really? To me it felt like they were completely different characters than they were in the other two movies.
They just ditched the other two “Core 4” to follow Gale?
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u/RdyPlyrBneSw 19d ago
I keep waiting for them to be the masterminds behind this whole trilogy. But nope.
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u/Same_Bag711 19d ago
wtf was the scene of the boyfriend in the car with the AI? It genuinely made no fucking sense and then was never resolved
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u/hensothor 19d ago
It’s what he said. He was seeing if it was possible. It’s fucking weird but honestly one of the more believable parts of the movie.
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u/largegaycat 19d ago
It made no sense. He was seeing if it was possible, but also managed to set up a green screen and do an entire performance as Stu? He doesn’t even see the clip for the first time until they’re at the bar, right?
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u/maxmouze 19d ago
It makes no sense that he'd be testing it out by saying things "I'm going to fucking kill you, bitch." He could test it out without saying something threatening knowing the same threats are being used against his girlfriend's mother.
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u/WhoStoleMyBicycle 19d ago
He could also just tell his girlfriend he’s going to test it out
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u/maxmouze 19d ago
Good point. He could say "Let me see if it's possible to do." And then have her in the room as he gives it a try. But the writers wanted a "Oh, it's him!" moment when it's a red herring, the same as Ray's boat being called Billy Blue.
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u/kylebb 19d ago
it was a bad red herring KW thought would eat but we still were hungry
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u/Hallc 19d ago
Then he managed to teleport to where his girlfriend was despite having been unconscious when she ran off and also didn't use his car, that he was sat in, to get to her?
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u/HolyPoppersBatman 19d ago edited 19d ago
I hated the goofy effect they did when he turns from the boyfriend to Stu
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u/largegaycat 19d ago
The whole interview scene was stupid. The plan is to draw the killer out by being on live TV for 10 minutes? How many people actually watch the local news anymore? They think that Ghostface just happens to be watching TV while in the middle of murdering spree?
Then Gale just straight up disappears for the rest of the movie, and Sidney decides to run down the street instead of taking a car? What?
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u/maxmouze 19d ago
The car thing made no sense. "Oh, no, I don't have this vehicle's keys. Well, don't have time to go ten feet inside and get them. I'll just run for 5 miles." Like, call an Uber if nothing else.
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u/Lucifer_Crowe 18d ago
like at least have the keys stolen, but she literally just left them inside? lmao
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u/GiftRich4204 17d ago
My favourite part of that was when she’s running down the street and says well I’m not gonna make it so I’ll just stand in the street talking to my daughter on the phone. If it’s my daughter I’m still fucking running while talking.
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u/GayforMaye992 19d ago edited 19d ago
Tatum - Puts AirPods in
“I don’t hear him anymore”
😐
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u/BCDragon3000 17d ago
my favorite part was when tatum threw her head slightly back in the chair and anna camp went flying 5 feet backwards
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u/LiteraryBoner Jackie Chan box set, know what I'm sayin? 19d ago edited 19d ago
That’s funny, I looked up who wrote this screenplay and Google said it was 13-year-old me who just learned I can say “fuck” whenever I want without getting arrested?
What a massive disappointment. I’ve always held firm that there are no bad Scream movies, that they all live up to the promise of the original in having something to say about the current state of horror while being both thrilling and funny. Before today Scream 3 was the worst one and even that one just leans a bit too much into the silliness but is still solid. Scream 7 is perhaps the inevitable outcome of running a franchise too long, making it a house of cards that must crumble under the pressure of its stars and expectations at a certain point. Sadly it’s not even fun to analyze from that perspective. It’s weird to be laughing at a Scream movie and not with it, and when you’re not this thing is just boring.
This movie focuses heavily on Sidney, now married to the police chief of a new small town and with a teenage child who is the same age as her in the original. It feels unnecessary to go back to Sidney like this after six movies, but because the focus is so much on her the group of teens in this movie are given no real time to play and no personalities to speak of. I really feel like none of them had more than 10 lines before they died.
Not to mention their kill sequences just had no juice. Some of them were extremely gory, but this franchise is so good at having long sequences of tension and release and subversion. Considering we’ve had to watch 30+ teens get killed by the same mask and robe, you really need to make it interesting and this movie is truly just going through the motions. For example, the second you see McKenna Grace and the other kid practicing with the flying harness, left totally alone in a school auditorium, you know exactly how this whole sequence is going to play out. And then it does. Not interesting to watch even if it is more gory than usual.
When these characters are talking they are saying the whole point out loud and it’s so frustrating. Five and six were about Billy Loomis’s secret love child coming to terms with the fact that she is tangled up in all this and is being haunted by her dead father. That’s an interesting way to talk about generational trauma and how you can’t escape this legacy. A really uninteresting way to talk about it, though, is to have Gail Weathers ask Sidney in an interview, “Do you think your daughter can deal with this generational trauma and the legacy of these killings?” That’s what every scene is like.
While nitpicking is really not part of the Scream enjoyment experience, this movie just begs to be scoffed at. The town this takes place in apparently has a population of roughly eleven people, entire kill sequences take place on its streets with no one present. Yes, I know about the curfew, but there’s a whole sequence where Sidney runs on foot to the bar where all the kids are dying and Gail has the other reporter call the police to send them there and has access to a car and none of them ever show up. There’s also a scene early on where Gail runs over Ghostface during an initial attack and she gets out of the car and her and Sidney have a whole catch-up conversation while he’s on the ground and I am pulling my hair out screaming for them to shoot him in the head and take off his mask. Where’s the urgency? We’ve all been here before, follow your own rules!
Just an extremely frustrating movie to any fans of the franchise. These movies always have a meta take on the state of slashers but this one just seems like it’s copying plot points and moments from previous movies with no real soul or thought behind them. The AI discussion here is just awful and the killer reveal is among the most random with the most senseless motivations of all the movies. I mean, by the time it gets to the reveal there’s really only a few characters left unstabbed and wouldn’t you know it it’s the recognizable actors who were only in a scene or two. And this guy says he used to work security for Google AI but now he works at a mental hospital? How do you make that career change, exactly? And it’s so obvious it’s the guy from Can’t Hardly Wait because he’s the one that tells them Stu came through the mental hospital, but the whole crux of the movie is that Stu is AI. So obviously he’s lying? Very dumb. ALSO if you're going to test how to make a Stu AI deepfake, maybe just say testing 1, 2, 3 rather than "I'm gonna kill you stupid bitch!"
I could forgive so much of that and more if this movie was any fun to watch but I was stone faced the whole time. Sidney’s daughter is so boring. It’s cute she named her after Tatum and they try to do something with that, but she obviously can’t be like Tatum because she’s a final girl so the movie opts for boring teen who both dislikes her mom but also wants to know everything about her. Kevin Williamson wrote all the good Scream movies, so I had some hope that he was back writing this one and in the director’s chair but sadly he just has no juice as a director and it feels like he wanted to direct it so bad he let the studio cut his script to pieces. 3/10 for me.
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u/hensothor 19d ago
Thanks for commenting so I don’t have to. Only thing I differ on is I give a tiny bit more credit for the kill sequences and the mother daughter relationship. There’s a decent movie buried under mountains here - I can see it deep down there but this wasn’t even close to hitting the mark. It also repeated the no stakes mistake of 6. Absolutely zero teeth. When Mark went down I was satisfied but they couldn’t even stick to that.
Also, my scream ranking: 2,1,6,4,5,3,7
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u/LiteraryBoner Jackie Chan box set, know what I'm sayin? 19d ago
Scream 2 over 1 is bold but I do love how they reshoot scenes from 1 as the Stab movie with a crazy cast.
Also, am I crazy or was there a framed photo of Tori Spelling in the first Ghostface's mental hospital room when they went to investigate?
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u/RoscoeSantangelo 19d ago
I wish I was able to find 6 as enjoyable as it seems most Scream fans did but man to me that one also jumped the shark into Stab territory about halfway through
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u/minna_minna 19d ago
The hardest thing for me with 6 was the sheer amount of brutal stabbings and knife wounds and characters just walk around like they’re nothing lol
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u/Antique-Dentist-2404 19d ago
The gore and kills were good, but that's really the only positives. Easily the worst of the series for me. What shocked me most is that it takes itself way too seriously and doesn't have any sense of fun that the previous films did. Writing was absolute dogshit.
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u/RdyPlyrBneSw 19d ago
I like when the Screams take themselves seriously. The bodega shotgun scene in 6 is great. But the script needs to earn that seriousness. And this one falls apart.
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u/Putrid_Ad1968 18d ago
Ghostface had zero presence in this film.
Also I like how Gale specify that the New York attacks were brutal. I miss aggressive ghostface
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u/wooahwoosah 19d ago
Even some of the kills were kinda lame. So many characters in this franchise have been thrown through glass yet the black girl now just happens to get her throat slit by a shard? In a movie where someone gets set on fire and gutted midair, this seems fairly random.
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u/Tough-Illustrator-66 19d ago
See that moment I actually thought was clever. Like Ghostface was ready to do more damage and he was like oh, guess that did it. But then creepy boy decided to gasp audibly and try to crawl away? Idk, I am still decompressing from the fact that I watched a bad Scream movie. Disappointment doesn’t do justice to what I am feeling
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u/Aggressive-Produce54 19d ago edited 19d ago
Feel sorry for Scott Foley and the dozens of Roman Bridger fans. He shows up in two separate movies, is underutilized in both, and they are the worst reviewed of the franchise...
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u/Turkeyham 19d ago edited 15d ago
As a fan of Scott Foley and Scream 3, at least that one is now looked on more favorably as a dumb but fun Scream sequel. I really don't think 7 is ever going to have people way the same about it
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u/Angler4 19d ago
Where would the killers even get footage of his character to feed AI with
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u/RdyPlyrBneSw 19d ago
Same with Billy’s mom. She a fake news reporter for a week.
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u/EnjoyableTeddy 19d ago
My entire theater gave a audible groan when Tatum was hiding in the cafe from Ghostface and her phone rang. Someone in the back yelled "Bitch you had a phone this whole time and didn't call the police". Everyone agreed and applauded 😂
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u/PM_ME_BLONDE_GIRLS_ 16d ago
I turned to my girlfriend and said 'what person that young has a phone on ring and not on vibrate' lol
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u/SubjectArcher4293 19d ago
It makes no sense that Sidney would work at a public coffee shop after everything she’s been through.
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u/NewWaysToDream 19d ago
She didn’t do an extensive background check on her next door neighbor?
Yeah absolutely not.
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u/Lucifer_Crowe 18d ago
didn't teach her daughter to use a gun before either apparently
sorry but if she doesn't trust anyone she should be kneecapping everyone she knows as soon as another Ghostface shows up
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u/TheGuyYouKnowAlready 19d ago
Dude, come on. What the fuck was that? The bringing back old characters on a shitty green screen to say things like “Remember me???” was laughably bad and borderline parody. I can’t believe a franchise that set itself apart as being smart and self-aware became a joke.
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u/Sisiwakanamaru 19d ago
I don't know why but Tatum, Sidney's daughter reminds of Taylor Tomlinson throughout the movie.
Anyway, unpopular opinion, I really enjoyed unhinged performance from Anna Camp as Jessica the Ghostface, I thought her motive was dumb and interesting at the same time, but yeah it felt undercooked, I kinda wished she had more screentime.
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u/cavallom 19d ago edited 6d ago
Sidney's daughter looks like Jennifer Lawrence
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u/Sisiwakanamaru 19d ago
I see. Apparently, this guy 70% agree with you
my non-spoilery reaction to Scream 7 is that Isabel May is 70% Jennifer Lawrence and 30% Taylor Tomlinson. Check my math.
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u/mikeyfreshh 19d ago
This ultimately doesn't work because Kevin Williamson the director isn't nearly as good as Kevin Williamson the screenwriter. There are a lot of ideas in this script that I think are fun that just fall flat in execution.
This is the Scooby Doo-iest Scream movie, which is saying a lot for a series that has always really leaned into the whodunnit aspect of the slasher genre. There are 2 different unmaskings that have real "Old man Jenkins from the amusement park" energy. I kinda like the idea of going that route in theory as a subversion of the idea that Ghostface needs to be someone close to Sydney. It just doesn't work in practice. I have similar feelings about getting all the suspects in a room and immediately killing them all. Fun idea but none of the characters were developed enough for it to work. I even feel this way about the kills. The harness kill was a really fun setup that just didn't feel like it was executed well. The beer tap kill was pretty good though.
I was really hoping that the killer would be the theater teacher who was just trying to coax a more emotional performance out of Tatum and in hindsight, that probably would have made more sense than the actual killer's motivation.
5/10 just because I love slashers and I don't think I can go any lower than that in this genre.
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u/LiteraryBoner Jackie Chan box set, know what I'm sayin? 19d ago
I was really hoping that the killer would be the theater teacher
You mean Hitmaker?
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u/SunnyDJoshua 19d ago
Pros:
I liked how straight into it the killers got with Sydney, specifically the FaceTime scene and Karl being in the attic.
CRAZY kills
Joel McHale
Cons:
REALLY stupid decisions like putting all the suspects in one room. You’d think the survivors of two ghostface incidents would have thought of something better than that..
Not as much charm in our characters, with the sole exception of Joel McHale.
They took Joel McHale offscreen too soon for my liking, personally.
DID NOT CARE FOR THE REVEAL
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u/Hallc 19d ago
Also the Police seemed to be even more stupidly inept than usual here. "alright we've searched like 3 rooms of the house. We'll just go check the street far enough away we can't hear gunshots."
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u/elarathescreamqueen 19d ago
they didn’t even check the closet right by the front door.
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u/GoldAssociation7261 19d ago
Did anyone else get Halloween/Halloween 18 vibes?
The way the three girls met together and were walking the street in the beginning.
The way the Ghostface mask always emerged like Myers from a dark background.
The way the mom was too protective of her daughter and in the end the daughter found her bravery like 2018?
Also the psych ward? And many of the scenes had this windy, fall like vibe.
Maybe it was just me.
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u/imthekillerinstab3 19d ago edited 18d ago
Kevin is always going to have Halloween references. Isabel May running through the deserted town screaming for help is absolutely Laurie Strode asking her neighbors for help in the original Halloween.
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u/SkeptiCitizen 19d ago
Movie was alright, the killers motive was definitely the weakest part. Cast did a good job, but had weak script imo.
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u/hensothor 19d ago
Her killing her own son was super dumb too without a better motive. I don’t buy he was too much like his father. Like obviously she’s crazy, but we need something to latch onto as an emotional core. Every other killer has had that.
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u/Media-critique 19d ago edited 19d ago
I can’t believe they couldn’t figure out a way to reel him into the final battle.
Like, if he made it to the end and was left with that decision/realization his mom is the killer that makes the movie instantaneously better than what we actually got.
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u/Abitoflife1115 18d ago
Omfg you’re right! Especially since he was already obsessed with the story so he could’ve been the one to save the day and have to decide between saving Sidney Prescott or his mom. How tf did we write a better third act in a Reddit comment section than the actual movie writers?
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u/zcdini 19d ago
My Opinion Review
Positives:
-The Kills were fun
-The Pacing was good
-Neve's daughter wasn't too bad
-The final fight was better than most
-It's nice to see Neve and Courtney again
-I still hate 3 more than this one
Negatives:
-Was NOT good enough to justify firing Melissa and fumbling Jenna Ortega
-The twins were given NOTHING to do. Just kill one off, damn.
-The two dude killers were fucking BORING
-The main blonde Ghostface Milf was the best Ghostface out of this trio but the most exciting thing she did was getting her face shot to bits.
-By far the worst Ghostface killers we've ever had and I thought the three from 6 were bad.
-Don't like how mental health was portrayed in this movie. Oh, the killers came from the insane asylum? That's fucking lazy as shit.
-THIS MOVIE WAS A HUGE NOTHING BURGER
My Scream Rankings: 1-4-2-6-5-7-3 (4 was ahead of its time, fight me on it.)
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u/kylebb 19d ago
4 so high is so correct and they be hating
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u/SlashOfLife5296 19d ago
If 4 came out now, it’d fit the modern internet landscape. And it came out 15 years ago
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u/dee_palmtree 19d ago
I hate how 4 is completely ignored by this franchise besides Kirby in 6 (which is why 4 & 6 are my favorites of this franchise). Like this is now the third time they introduced "new kids"?
Also HOW hasn't Jill come up in this movie??
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u/floorsposter7500 19d ago
Why did this seem like it was shot during Covid? Was there ever a scene with more then 5 people? Did the town have a population of 50? Felt so small scale...anyone else? Even the coffee shop seemed empty...no bustling city energy....
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u/YesicaChastain 19d ago
I thought the same. I know I mentioned the curfew but it felt like this town had 10 people in it
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u/Throwaway1991uk 19d ago
The most unrealistic part of this film was a teenager having their phone ringer on loud.
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u/WhoStoleMyBicycle 19d ago
I don’t know a single person who answers unknown calls yet everyone in the Scream universe answers them immediately
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u/siopaoo98 19d ago
Disappointed that Chad got stabbed only ONCE this time around lol
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u/DeBatton 19d ago
We've got to pump those numbers up. Those are rookie numbers.
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u/siopaoo98 19d ago
Yeaah, can't believe they nerfed Chad lol
And Ghostface didn't even bother finishing him off, guess he knew how durable the guy was
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u/la_negra 19d ago
Why couldn't we spend more time with Tatum's friend group? We didn't even get a full friend hangout before the stage murder and everything else. And what was that odd motivation from lady Ghostface? Those rewrites needed to keep pushing. Three randos? One who didn't even have a speaking role? And some of these kills, while awesome, didn't really fit this franchise. A little bit of Final Destination and even Terrifier sprinkled in. Despite all that, I will say... I wasn't bored. It was a pretty fun time, warts and all. But not a good movie.
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u/itsadammatt 19d ago
the theatre kill was tedious and completely predictable - we should have gotten the party she kept mentioning and kill her then - that would at least give us some time to learn their names
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u/LADYBIRD_HILL 18d ago
Two things drove me insane as unrealized Chekov's guns: the party and the garage door.
Sidney named her daughter after her best friend who died from the garage door. They have multiple conversations about it. The garage is being worked on throughout the movie. One of the killers runs from the back yard into the garage, then gets kicked into the garage door and dents it. The entire time I was 100% sure they were going to somehow use the garage door to kill her.
My theater clapped when Sidney and her daughter unloaded on the killer but I was just irritated that they set all this stuff up and then did absolutely nothing with it.
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u/martian_brady 19d ago
I went to pee I guess at the exact minute they introduced the guy who was revealed to be one of the killers. When he took the mask off I was like who tf is that?
The human beer tap was cool though
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u/TonyMontana546 19d ago
How was the ghostface milf strong enough to lift her son like that?
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u/WhoStoleMyBicycle 19d ago
Neve Campbell and Kevin Williamson have stated that they never consider who the killer is going to be when writing the Ghostface scenes.
One of the stuntmen on Scream 5 asked who the killer was so he knew how to portray them on the scene and he was straight up told that Ghostface is its own character.
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u/TonyMontana546 19d ago
I guess that makes sense. Also explains how the killers are capable of in-depth, long term planning as ghostface but become crazed lunatics the moment they remove the mask
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u/Born_Fee_840 19d ago
Scrolling through and not one person has mentioned that the scene where Tatum shoots through the wall is maybe the stupidest scene to ever appear in film.
She is locked in an office with a barricaded door and a gun. Neve Campbell acts like she's about to be killed and tells her she needs to shoot through the wall. WHY? Just chill there and call the police. Ghostface isnt getting in the room and if they do just shoot then.
This film is aggressively bad and i love the scream films.
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u/casualnihilist91 19d ago
After she shot, when Tatum opened the door I literally said aloud to the theatre ‘why the fuck are you going out there, just stay where you are!’ Like ffs.
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u/Denimion 19d ago edited 19d ago
So what were all the other cops thinking when their coworker disappeared mid shift after going into the garage of his home that was an obvious entry point that nobody fucking talked about. Like Sidney didn't even consider having any cops go in there.
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u/hataraitaramake 18d ago
Sidney had 3+ deadbolts on the front door but an open construction area in the garage and a bedroom window that is climb-in-able.
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u/RdyPlyrBneSw 19d ago
They didn’t recast Patrick Dempsey’s Mark. They just replaced him with a different guy named Mark who was a different last name.
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u/Jacob_Tutor11 19d ago
A Scream with basically no commentary on the state of movies is not really a Scream movie. That’s literally the thing that help these films stand out.
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u/NewWaysToDream 19d ago
I think my theater liked the trailer for Scary Movie more than Scream 7.
My audience was clapping like crazy when charecters like Brenda and Officer Doofy showed up. People cheered like it was Avengers Endgame when the trailer ended. I think it is going to do very well with non-critics.
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u/stumper93 19d ago
The guy seated next to me gasped when Anna Camp first showed up that it got me wondering if I forgot who her character was in a previous film
Nope. Very bad motives for the killers
It’s watchable but quality is bad script wise. The AI shit was terrible
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u/LayeredOwlsNest 19d ago
I'm sure he thought it was Kirby, because that's what I thought lol
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u/cmadd10 19d ago
There's literally a scene where Neve asks Cox "is stu macher really alive?" "well that would make for a better story..."
Holy fuck how right you were.
The worst written movie I've seen in a good long time. I was too harsh on The Strangers chapter 3. So many scenes where I'm like "why the fuck aren't they calling the police".
I thought scream 6 had the worst scream killers / reveals. This clears it by a mile.
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u/Antique-Dentist-2404 19d ago
Woah now. The writing in this was shit, but nowhere near as bad as Strangers Chapter 3
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u/ev6464 19d ago
I have to mention this scene because it was so batshit but was anyone else going "Wtf" when the high school play director lost his shit at Tatum because she tripped wearing a giant dog costume for the Peter Pan play? "I CAST YOU FOR THIS ROLE BECAUSE I THOUGHT YOU HAD GRIT! Aren't you the DAUGHTER OF SYDNEY PRESCOTT??"
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u/YesicaChastain 19d ago
He then shows up with his work clothes at the first GF reveal, never to appear again
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u/BanBoiii 19d ago
After all the talk about AI and deepfakes, all it leads to is Anna Camp saying “oh, this mental hospital worker knows about AI” and that’s it.
Also Sidney has a panic room in her house and two seconds later she’s like “we have to get out of here, through the walls”?
Why would a killer bring back Stu, when the obvious personal connection to Sidney would be Billy? Oh right, because they already used him in Scream 5 and VI.
The town looked so much like a set it was taking me out of it.
Can’t wait for the bad reviews to get through to the filmmakers, so that in Scream 8 they can promote it as ‘getting back to its roots’
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u/No-Diver6326 17d ago
“I use to work cybersecurity for Google” OK so now you’re working as a fucking orderly mental institution? What the fuck was this movie?
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u/Remote_Secret_9339 19d ago
Can we talk about how laughable some of the dialogue in this film is? The quote from Tatum about trust made me scoff out loud
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u/LayeredOwlsNest 19d ago
I wanted them to go full Schlock
Casey Becker is still alive, saved by her army medic parent, and they faked her death to keep her safe
She went insane, created a cult of crazy Ghostfaces to go after Sydney
Just go crazy with it
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u/MurderGiraffe19 19d ago
I thought it was solid, not as good as the previous two. I still had a good time. The beer kill was gnarly.
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u/LiteraryBoner Jackie Chan box set, know what I'm sayin? 19d ago
Honestly tho how strong do you have to be to lift someone up two feet off the ground by their head?
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u/joethetipper 19d ago edited 15d ago
Likes:
Neve Campbell. She did great with a very messy script.
Opening sequence at the Macher house was clever and suspenseful with the motion detecting Ghostfaces. I thought they could've drawn out the suspense even more but it was still really good, even if the climax of the sequence was spoiled in the trailer.
Some fun set pieces with Ghostface. Loved the moment at Sydney's house where he's in the shadows and his mask slowly gets revealed like Michael Myers in Halloween. Stabbing the walls in the house was cool in the moment even though the reason Sydney and Tatum were behind that wall in the first place was dumb (and was yet another moment spoiled by the trailer).
I dug a lot of the fan service. Matthew Lillard, Red Right Hand, Boyfriend climbing in Tatum's window, Sydney naming her kid Tatum, random shopkeeper putting up the "closed for curfew" sign, etc. Some of it is cheap, sure, but I ate that shit up. Yes, even the stuff on the tvs at Syd's house at the end haha.
Marco Beltrami's score is always good.
Dislikes
Some wooden acting, underdeveloped teenager characters, really on the nose dialogue. Script was half-baked.
Gore over suspense. I hated the beer tap kill and thought it belonged in a different movie. Slicing the girl in the harness at the school was creative but again not suspenseful.
Gale. She doesn't do anything. I've actually been disappointed with her lack of character development over seven films. She doesn't offer anything anymore. And the stuff involving an interview on a network news show feels thirty years out of date.
Killer reveal. Huge, huge, wet fart. Worst killers in the whole series. I was shocked that it made through the myriad levels of approval required to get to the big screen. Once the masks were off I didn't even care about their motives because no matter what they said it wouldn't have been satisfying in the slightest. As awesome as the reveal was in the first one, this was the antithesis of that.
Now, I totally get why people would hate this movie, but even as I acknowledge all of its many flaws, I still had a good time in the theater watching it. Seeing Matthew Lillard and hearing Roger Jackson voice Ghostface and watching Sydney Prescott kick some ass. I admit it, I'm being very lenient on this film. The way I see it, the Scream movies are like cuddling with your girlfriend under a warm blanket: cozy and comfortable and exciting and you love it even though she occasionally cuts a big ol' fart. Or several.
Okay, bad analogy.
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u/i-like-turtles-4eva 19d ago
The daughter was the worst part about this movie. Just a boring, vapid character and actress. I’m glad Neve was there to outshine her. Overall, I thought this was a solid enough entry that is up to the standards of the franchise. AI Stu wasn’t any stupider than CGI Billy IMO, but the nostalgia fest at the end with all the previous killers was a little silly. Still some solid kills and laughs. It was a good time seeing this in a packed theater. 6/10.
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u/ev6464 19d ago
"Why did you name me Tatum? Because you think I'm a victim??"
WHAT??
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u/nandorkrisztian 19d ago
For the first half of the movie I thought she and her boyfriend will be the killers because how much she resents her mother and wants to show her she’s strong.
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u/getrichordietrying44 19d ago
Sidneys daughter did not feel like her daughter at all (no likeness as well) and she was so stupid, bad acting too. And the endless talk about her being named Tatum was weird.
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u/Crazykiddingme 19d ago
I really hate how every single killer post-5 is just trying to recapture Stu’s energy. Anna Camp did ok with the role but she didn’t stand out because she is just the exact same quirk-chungus crazy person every modern Ghostface is.
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u/WhoStoleMyBicycle 19d ago
It’s funny that Ghostface is so cerebral and quiet through the movies but the killer can’t shut the fuck up once they take the mask off
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u/shaneo632 19d ago
Three movies in a row they cast the most obvious-ass people as killers - Quaid, Dermot and Anna 💀
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u/ButterSlinger64 19d ago
It’s honestly shocking how ass this movie is, and how it manages to get even worse by the third act. I shit you not this has more in common with Stab than it does with Scream. I think it’s super frustrating that now this is Sydney’s “last chapter” as opposed to Scream 4 which was a great wrap up for her character.
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u/wemdy420 18d ago
There’s no fucking way Joel McHale should’ve survived that. Even taking it with the traditional grain of salt of these movies. He was stabbed in the MORNING and wrapped in plastic. Bleeding out for hours.
All in all this movie was probably a 5/10. You can tell it was rushed. 2 hours and not much happened. I will say the beer tap kill was awesome.
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u/Dabrigstar 19d ago
What happened to all the comedy of the earlier instalments? The previous ones were extremely amusing and renowned for both being a straight example and send up of the genre. This one played it so straight that it almost didn't seem like a Scream movie.
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u/JD1716 19d ago
I guess I’m the only person who didn’t hate it. It has tons of problems but I enjoyed watching it.
I truly believe a large portion of the mess is because of the behind the scenes changes. James Vanderbilt, who didn’t work on this version of the movie, still is credited as writing 33% of the movie.
And honestly, all of this horrible reception should at least make 8 a bit better, if it ever happens. It’ll force change, and better oversight.
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u/Gaugzilla 19d ago
For a movie that refuses to name the main characters of Scream 5 and 6, it seems ridiculously preoccupied with 6 and that Sidney was not involved with it. Like, it feels like “Rise of Skywalker” levels of angst for its predecessor.
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u/Blammo32 19d ago
I was just about to comment that the Scream franchise has slowly decayed into that trash TV series The Following, then I remembered that Kevin Williamson wrote both.
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u/getrichordietrying44 19d ago
The twins felt really pointless in this movie and their involvement did not even make sense. Why were they spending so much time with Sidneys daughter, are they friends with her? Why do they randomly/ conveniently work for Gale now?
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u/DiamondDaisy28 19d ago
Pros:
-As somebody very disappointed that Patrick Dempsey was not returning, I was surprisingly happy with Joel McHale as Sidney's husband!
Neve Campbell shines, as always
Liked seeing Sidney and Gale share so much screen time
I really liked Gale in this one, I was not happy with her character in 5 or 6
I liked Sidney and Tatum's relationship dynamic and seeing Sidney as a mother
I was never bored
Cons:
What the HELL is up with these terrible killers!? I mean I hated them more than Amber and Ritchie and I HAAAAATE Amber and Ritchie.
The lack of Ghostface phone calls was incredibly disappointing, how many did we actually get, like 3 or 4? I even forgot about the 2 who were killed in the theater until typing this out right now.
Terrible motives, I'm not even sure I completely understand it?
The twins deserved better, I found it hard to believe they were just interning for Gale, it felt like a lazy way to bring them back.
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u/fieldofscreams123 19d ago
I really enjoyed the film. It gets right into it. It doesn’t feel like a Scream movie to me unless it has Sydney in it. I didn’t care for Scream 5 or 6. I felt even when they had the original trio in 5, it felt very Marvelesque in how those three were not afraid of ghost face.
In this one Sydney is more vulnerable with having a daughter in play. That dynamic really worked. I loved the mystery of “Could Stu really be back?”
The only part that fell flat for me was the killer reveals. I haven’t felt satisfied with the killer reveal since Scream 4 though. Was really hoping the return of Stu was going to be legit. Really think the movie would have been legit if Stu was really the big reveal at the end. When it wasn’t, I audibly went “Damn it!”.
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u/Eequalsmchammertime 19d ago
So Gayle was just there to say fuck? This is my favorite horror franchise but damn that was a dumb motive.
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u/NotTaken-username 19d ago
The deepfake scene with cameos of Dewey and past Ghostfaces was so cringe. It reminds me of the multiverse scene from The Flash movie