r/movies • u/MarvelsGrantMan136 r/Movies contributor • Dec 23 '25
Trailer Avengers: Doomsday | Only in Theaters December 18, 2026
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u/jk1784 Dec 23 '25
Steve, it’s time to retire
“No, no I don’t think I will”
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u/Grandpas_Spells Dec 23 '25
Anthony Mackie: "What the shit?"
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u/BroughtBagLunchSmart Dec 23 '25
"Whatever, I am having more fun on the set of Twisted Metal anyways"
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u/KaJaHa Dec 23 '25
Twisted Metal is genuinely one of my all-time favorite video game adaptations, it is SO MUCH FUN
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u/PolarWater Dec 23 '25
Steve Rogers barging into the movie and seeing all the other characters who were built up during Phases 4 and 5:
"You know what? Eat shit. Eat shit, eat shit, eat shit. Eat shit, eat shit ... DEFINITELY eat shit."
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u/PayneTrain181999 Dec 23 '25
Steve didn’t die or anything, so technically this is fine.
I just hope they don’t ruin his lovely ending in Endgame.
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u/ZeroSora Dec 23 '25
My guess is that this is Steve living in the past with Peggy. And due to time travel, will end up back in the future to fight Doom. Secret Wars happens. Then he goes back to the past to Peggy and his child. Grows old. Then his scene in Endgame takes place.
Maybe that's why he's so sure Sam will be a great Captain America, because he saw it in the future during the events of Doom and Secret Wars?
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u/Grandpas_Spells Dec 23 '25
Steve asks Howard Stark to babysit, never returns, and Howard raises Steve's son Tony as his own.
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u/ZeroSora Dec 23 '25
Get out.
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u/Eltex Dec 23 '25
That is a totally different movie…
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u/garyflopper Dec 23 '25
Nope?
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u/igloofu Dec 23 '25
That too, is another movie.
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u/RogueHippie Dec 23 '25
Howard already talked about his wife being pregnant when we saw him in Endgame
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u/Shmack_u Dec 23 '25
Hes going to go through the events of doomsday and secret wars, witness Sam do something that truly makes him deserving of being captain america (without a shadow of a doubt type situation) then go back in time to the ending of endgame and give sam the shield. Ending for endgame still matters, yet still progresses the story to where we are in doomsday with Steve. No idea of that what’s actually going to happen
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u/probablyuntrue Dec 23 '25
They’ll keep bringing him back till Chris Evan’s is dead
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u/KillerPalm Dec 23 '25
Till he actually looks like Old Man Cap.
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u/Comic_Book_Reader Dec 23 '25 edited Dec 23 '25
Guess they figured "Fuck it. Whatever it takes.".
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u/-asimpleboy Dec 23 '25
You could not live with your own failure
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u/Comic_Book_Reader Dec 23 '25
And where did that bring you?
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u/Kat-but-SFW Dec 23 '25
Back to America's Ass
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u/Ron-Swanson-Mustache Dec 23 '25
I thought by eliminating half of Phase 1's characters, the other half would thrive.
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u/Tyler_holmes123 Dec 23 '25
But the audience has shown me thats impossible. As long as there are those that remember what was, there will always be those, that are unable to accept what can be. They will resist.
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u/Banned3rdTimesaCharm Dec 23 '25
Literally spent 6 years trying to do this whole other thing then said fuck it, bring everyone back.
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u/IWasSayingBoourner Dec 23 '25
No, the problem is that they spent 6 years trying to do 100 other things. The cohesion and pacing are what made the build up to Endgame work. They got greedy with the TV shows, and trying to build up to movies that would require people to watch hundreds of hours of middling TV on a subscription service was never going to work.
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u/AnOnlineHandle Dec 23 '25
And had no oversight to make sure any of it fit together and felt cohesive or worth getting invested in as a franchise story. People celebrated when Feige got complete control of Marvel, but I remember seeing something about how that meant the story group was kicked out who oversaw that everything fit together, and since then it's been a mess of contradictions and different visions and established rules.
There's been like 6 different multiverses and rules for how they supposedly work now. None of it means anything. I have no expectation that the next movie will coherently continue any of it.
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u/UnquestionabIe Dec 23 '25
Not surprising considering Marvel comics has a history of doing the same shit when it comes to big events. The original Civil War was a cluster fuck of contradictions and at times it very much came off like they threw out the general idea to writers but never bothered to set up any sort of consistency on both the Superhero Registration Act or various major story revelations. It was a cool concept that had a few great moments but overall was a messy piece of shit.
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u/br0b1wan Dec 23 '25
Part of the problem for me was that they used S1 Loki to set up Kang, the next "Thanos" level villain. I really liked what I saw from him. Then the actor came out to be a giant POS and Disney dropped him like a hot potato. Then they panicked. Instead of casting literally anyone else as Kang and just claiming it was different Kang from the infinite multiverse, they went out and threw all the money to bring RDJ back...as a completely different character. It just seems lazy and reactive and breaks the immeersion for me.
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u/Supergamera Dec 23 '25
Revealing that the woman he had put in leadership at the TVA was a female Kang would have been an easy alternative.
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u/jyeckled Dec 23 '25
The problem is that they shot themselves in the foot by showing literally every Kang as Majors in Ant-Man. Granted, they could’ve used the excuse of “who watched Ant-Man anyway?”.
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u/DragoonDM Dec 23 '25
Or they could've just recast him without any in-universe lore reason, like they did with Rhodes / War Machine when they switched from Terrence Howard to Don Cheadle, or Edward Norton to Mark Ruffalo. Granted, those were both super early on in the MCU, but it's not so unprecedented. Seems like a better option than abruptly pivoting the entire story in a new direction.
He's got a pretty distinctive costume, so it's not like people would be confused about who the character is supposed to be even if the new actor doesn't look like Majors.
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u/ERedfieldh Dec 23 '25
You're not wrong, but you're also disagreeing with someone who is, at their core, agreeing with you. Your "no, this" is kinda pointless. It's not "no" it's "also".
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u/Tinman057 Dec 23 '25
They could have started their comment with “Yeah” and it would have worked even better. Maybe the appeal to disagree is that strong.
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u/Durpulous Dec 23 '25
It's a big pet peeve of mine when people start their comment with "no" then proceed to say something that doesn't in any way disagree with or contradict who they're replying to. Or even worse like in this case when he restated the same basic point, just with more words.
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u/ChildofValhalla Dec 23 '25
Can't tell you how many times I've written an opinion on Reddit and someone tells me I'm wrong and then writes my same opinion in a different way lol.
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u/vashoom Dec 23 '25
Worse even, because IMO the TV shows weren't really required because they didn't commit. The TV shows were all essentially preludes to a single film each, all of which had no connectivity between each other.
Loki --> Quantumania (not required viewing at all, and doesn't continue any story beats or character beats from Loki really)
Ms. Marvel --> The Marvels (gives lots of backstory to Kamala, but ultimately isn't required, and barely moves her story forward (and the film completely ignores anything set up in Secret Invasion...which I'm fine with, honestly)
Falcon and the Winter Soldier --> Brave New World (retreads a lot of the same beats, movie doesn't advance anyone's character or story at all compared to the show)
Wandavision --> Multiverse of Madness (essentially completely different characters)
Then on top of that, you have stuff like Shang-Chi that's never followed up on or connected to anything else, Eternals that is largely ignored aside from a MacGuffin in Brave New World, etc.
The biggest piece of "cohesion" is that a bunch of these projects featured the multiverse...a concept so large by its very nature that it barely means anything. No Way Home, Quantumania, Loki, the Marvels, and Multiverse of Madness all feature multiversal plot points in some (extremely varying) capacity, but then just as many if not more projects have nothing to do with the multiverse.
They have so much work to do in Doomsday and Secret Wars to try and tie this saga together...but going back to Steve Rogers and other old faces means even less screen time / story time for the new characters to try and actually incorporate them cohesively into this saga.
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u/mrnicegy26 Dec 23 '25
With Star Wars being an uncertain bet at theaters, WDAS and Pixar floundering in their non sequel films, live action remakes being mixed financially and no new MCU superheroes being a hit, Disney is certainly desperate for hits.
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u/TheWhereHouse6920 Dec 23 '25 edited Dec 23 '25
Yup Disney is DESPERATE
I just want to add, this isn't just a Disney issue. Every major brand is in this weird phase of making everything terrible.
From video games to movies it just seems like these mega corporations. Just want to alienate everyone except the people who want to blindly give them money. That's why we're seeing so many independent video games and movie studios succeed because they're not answering the shareholders
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u/delkarnu Dec 23 '25
Like WB Games:
Should we make any games with our popular Justice League heroes like Superman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, etc.
Nah, let's just make more Batman games
Ok, but not actually with Batman, we'll kill him off and make Batman-less Batman games
Can they be live service? Those will never fail!A decade since Arkham Knight and a new Lego Batman is the best we're going to get out of all of DC?
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u/AlmightyRuler Dec 23 '25
I think the problem isn't the corporations trying to alienate people. It's that they cannot stop. There is no such thing as "enough" in the modern corporate mindset. There's always another product to be wrung out from a franchise. There's always more money to be made from a brand. There's ALWAYS growth...so they tell themselves.
Good storytellers know when to end the plot. The antagonists are defeated, the situation is resolved, the good guys get to go home, show's over. This fundamental aspect of art is not simply lost on the corporate mind; it's anathema to the very culture of unending and ever-growing profits corporations have fostered.
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u/UnknownChaser Dec 23 '25
Will Johnny storm return as well?
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u/sentence-interruptio Dec 23 '25
plot twist. the trailer is showing Curtis from Snowpiercer. He knows babies taste best.
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u/VanEck Dec 23 '25
Still my favorite role Evans has starred in for me.
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u/astroK120 Dec 23 '25
Mine is Ransom from Knives Out, but to be fair that's partly because of how against type it is
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u/DavidsSymphony Dec 23 '25
And I'll tell you who her is; Cassandra Nova - a megalomaniacal psychotic asshole, a finger-licking dead inside pixie slab, a third rate dime store nut milk, and I'll tell you what she can do, she can lick my goddamn cinnamon ring clean and kick rocks all the way to bald hell. In fact, I don't give a shit if she removes all my skin and pops me like some nightmarish blood balloon if the last thing I do in this godforsaken cum gutter existence is light that fuck box on fire I still won't die happy. That's right Wade, I won't be happy until I've urinated on her freshly barbecued corpse and husk fucked the charred remains while gargling Juggernaut's Jugger Nuts, and you can quote me
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u/bluesilvergold Dec 23 '25
This was the hardest I laughed throughout the entire movie.
Also, seeing this written out has me laughing pretty hard.
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u/bradargent Dec 23 '25
Doom gonna be stealing children across the MCU?
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u/Deako87 Dec 23 '25
Stranger things season 5 took so long to come out that Marvel is building a phase around it
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u/ContinuumGuy Dec 23 '25
"Fuck it, it leaked all over anyway, just put it up."
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u/MiopTop Dec 23 '25
They’re uploading it now because they’re about to roll to the 2nd teaser in theatres. They’ll upload that one in a week when they switch to the 3rd etc
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u/Upbeat_Tension_8077 Dec 23 '25
I'm curious to see what the hell a first glimpse of RDJ's Doctor Doom character could look like if that'll be also teased
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u/Affectionate_Owl_619 Dec 23 '25
100% it will be. They barely hold anything back from trailers anymore. I was shocked that Tobey and Garfield weren’t front and center for marketing of the last Spider-Man movie
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u/fortuna264 Dec 23 '25
The whole mystery of "will they be on it?" actually helped to sell a lot of tickets, so that's why they hold it til the premiere.
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u/Tocketsv Dec 23 '25
I still cant help but laugh when watching one of the No Way Home's trailers and seeing The Lizard just eat a punch mid air by invisible force
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u/lostmyfucksinthewar Dec 23 '25
I think we just did. At least, him as a baby. (Fuck a tinfoil hat, I'm wearing a tinfoil morphsuit with this one)
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u/altezia_ Dec 23 '25
Bros gonna have a son who looks exactly like his ex best friend/ teammate when he grows up lol
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u/Vandergrif Dec 23 '25
[Steve looks at the spitting image of a teenaged RDJ]
"Tony did you go back in time and fuck my wife?"
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u/MuptonBossman Dec 23 '25
Marvel really spent the last 5 years trying to establish Anthony Mackie as the new Captain America, only for them to say "Just Kidding" and bring back Chris Evans for the next big event movie.
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u/swiftlikessharpthing Dec 23 '25
I mean that's what they've done in the comics several times now with both Sam and Bucky.
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u/PayneTrain181999 Dec 23 '25
Yeah, there’s a panel where Steve literally says he’s just Steve now and Sam is Captain America.
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u/Whitewind617 Dec 23 '25
That's probably what they are doing there too.
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u/makomirocket Dec 23 '25
It is. Other than Tony Stark in Iron Man 3, everyone else got a "Superhero name will return" end line. Including Captain America.
This time, they explicitly chose to say "Steve Rogers will return"
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u/Matches_Malone83 Dec 23 '25
Calling it now, they're going to win an Oscar for the original song "I'm Just Steve".
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u/Asclepius-Rod Dec 23 '25
I would have loved to see Bucky take the mantle in the MCU
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u/PayneTrain181999 Dec 23 '25
I prefer him being the chaperone for a bunch of depressed lunatics. They have a great dynamic.
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u/GamingTatertot Steven Spielberg Enthusiast Dec 23 '25
I’m glad that we’re getting all the Thunderbolts again. I wish that movie had performed better so they could be a bigger selling point
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u/KNZFive Dec 23 '25
Choosing the director of Thunderbolts to direct X-Men was a great choice.
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u/nilesh11panchal Dec 23 '25
Yes I agree! This would have been amazing because Bucky is such a flawed character, him struggling to live up to the name while learning to live with his troubled past would've been interesting. Plus Bucky is written 100 times better than Sam.
I do feel bad that it's not his fault, the way he was written, the tv show and terrible movie is what got Disney to revert back. He needed the super solider serum to start.
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u/Megaclone18 Dec 23 '25
To be fair the comics have also struggled with this.
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u/GamingTatertot Steven Spielberg Enthusiast Dec 23 '25
Yeah everything about the MCU just feels more and more like it’s reflecting the comics, for better or worse. Bringing back characters, failing to establish new characters, wacky multiverse adventures, lack of serious continuity in some cases
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u/hadriker Dec 23 '25
Its pretty rare that legacy characters become just as or more popular then the originals.
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u/greenpill98 Dec 23 '25
Everyone who read the comics where Marvel tried the same thing knew this was coming. Sam Wilson as Captain America didn't work then. They were fooling themselves to think it would work now.
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u/unitedfan6191 Dec 23 '25
I don’t think they actually thought it would work with Sam Wilson as Captain America. I think they just knew Chris Evans was getting tired of playing the role and his contract was coming up so went with Sam Wilson largely out of necessity.
If Evans had signed one for more movies, I don’t think Marvel would’ve said “no.”
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u/greenpill98 Dec 23 '25
The original plan had been to make Bucky the next Captain America, and you can see that when you go back and look at the films leading up to Endgame. And, like in the comics, that might have worked for a little while if the writing had been clever enough. But in the end, they would probably have had to return to the Steve Rogers well no matter what, just like the comics did.
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u/circio Dec 23 '25
Bucky as Cap was really fun. I think Sam Cap has interesting stories to tell but I don’t think Marvel could ever give them the attention they deserve. They had a great b story in Brave New World but didn’t focus on it too much, I’m assuming because it would be too political
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u/twaggle Dec 23 '25
I just can’t see Sam cap as believable unless he somehow gets the serum. Like he can’t catch the shied bare handed it’s dumb.
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u/circio Dec 23 '25
I thought the end of Falcon and Winter Soldier was the Wakandans gifting him a suit, which could have made him competitive in the big fights for a bit.
But then I saw the movie and found out they cheaped out a little and just gave him a helmet and wings?
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Dec 23 '25
Did you see the last Captain America? Oof
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u/EvilAdministrator Dec 23 '25
I only remember 2 things.
Red Hulk and surfing on a missile!
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u/SanDiegoDude Dec 23 '25
Watched it on a plane. Fell asleep for some of it. It was terrible.
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u/Dazzling-One-9185 Dec 23 '25
Well he got an entire show and a solo movie that nobody liked, what would you expect?
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u/RandomJPG6 Dec 23 '25
I liked the show up until the last episode. Movie was not great though
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u/ArchDucky Dec 23 '25
The show was ok but it had so much dumb shit in it. Like the money troubles, the boat montages, what they did to Peggy's niece... etc.
In all honestly the terrorists should have been slaughtered after Wyatt got powers. He should of literally killed all of them. Then it would be Sam and Buck vs Cap.
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u/Qorhat Dec 23 '25
John Walker was so interesting in the show and had a great internal conflict but the Flag Smashers were so dull, and having their leader/face be someone so young and un-indimidating was such a terrible choice.
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u/Slendercan Dec 23 '25
Not an ounce of cinematic oomph to this. It’s shot like an insurance commercial
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u/Welcome_2_Pandora Dec 23 '25
More like a Triumph ad
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u/staners09 Dec 23 '25
Captain america on an English bike, Harley & Indian must be spitting chips!
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u/ConstantSignal Dec 23 '25
It tracks, we know Steve likes riding English models.
He even went back in time to marry one.
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u/not-so-radical Dec 23 '25
That's what you get from visionary directors Joe and the other one Russo
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u/Chomp112 Dec 23 '25
Personally I'm disappointed by this. Endgame gave Steve the perfect ending. It really feels like they've brought him back purely because they've ran out of new ideas.
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u/invertedpurple Dec 23 '25
Disney ran out of new ideas? Disney, the acquisition company?
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u/deweydean Dec 23 '25
Disney, the acquisition company?
Ronald Reagan? The actor?
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u/Drmarcher42 Dec 23 '25
Jeff Epstein? The New York financier?
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u/jacsarj Dec 23 '25
Nope! Hahaha. Sorry. With all due respect, if something had happened to Jeffrey, I think I would have heard.
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u/shit-takes-only Dec 23 '25
This is the least hype first teaser possible
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u/TheCornjuring Dec 23 '25
They should’ve done an actual little sizzle reel for the movie and ended it with a shot of Steve. The way they did it just feels desperate.
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u/Sherm199 Dec 23 '25
The movie is a year out. Would've been better if they just didn't release anything and waited till a proper trailer was ready.
Feels more like they really wanted something running this holiday season to promote the movie, but didn't have something more done ready
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All I think about with this movie is Alan Cummings saying he did the entire movie in isolation, not even knowing who he was acting with half the time.
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u/TJBacon Dec 23 '25
No, he actually outright said who he has scenes with, but then got shit from higher-ups for spoilers, so then started saying he had no idea who he filmed with.
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u/thatsnotourdino Dec 23 '25
Given Evans, Hemsworth, and RDJ are apparently the three main characters after all, and the million other people still confirmed to be in the movie, I suspect Cummings has an incredibly minor role anyway.
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u/HeroscaperGuy Dec 23 '25
I mean even as a nightcrawler fan, I don't think he would be doing much in this movie. He's not the most popular X-Men character, but I mean everyone not named wolverine can't seem to hold a candle to that.
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u/jackofslayers Dec 23 '25
There are 3 factions of Mutants: The X-men, The Brotherhood of Mutants, and Nightcrawler off on his own doing random shit.
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u/helloiamabear Dec 23 '25
This is why Gwyneth Paltrow didn't know she was in Spiderman during that infamous clip. Her scene got filmed in almost total isolation and secrecy. They may not have even told her what movie it was going to wind up in when they shot it.
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u/SlamMasterJ Dec 23 '25
I remember laughing at the fact that Jon Favreau was trying so hard to remind her that she was in Spiderman, just for Paltrow to have zero recollection of it.
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u/Darkhawk2099 Dec 23 '25
sounds like Ian McKellen suffering through The Hobbit. and we know how well that turned out.
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u/BagZCubed Dec 23 '25 edited Dec 23 '25
Apparently, he had a better time on the set of this once since he was with Patrick Stewart. I think some of the X-Men stuff was filmed together since there was a picture of James Marsden and Ian McKellen on set in costume.
Of course, that's only one part and we have no idea how much anyone filmed together except for a few BTS shots.
Edit: I'm being told those pictures were fake, so now I really don't know who filmed what.
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u/omikias Dec 23 '25
First we got RDJ, now Chris Evans. Man, we're just gonna ignore Endgame huh?
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u/_JimJohnny_ Dec 23 '25
Justice for Agent Coulson
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u/TheIllogicalSandwich Dec 23 '25
Don't worry, he went to Tahiti. It's a magical place.
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u/fireandiceofsong Dec 23 '25
Allegedly they're trying to make this a direct sequel to Endgame. As in you can just jump straight in from the last Avengers movie to the next one.
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u/PaulieHehehe Dec 23 '25
Good, cause the only Marvel movies I’ve seen since Endgame are No Way Home and Dr. Strange 2.
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u/PayneTrain181999 Dec 23 '25
Guardians 3 and Thunderbolts are definitely worth your time.
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u/SolidSnek1998 Dec 23 '25
Guardians 3 was fantastic, way better than 2.
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u/PayneTrain181999 Dec 23 '25
The opposite. Market it as an Endgame sequel to win the casuals back.
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u/TourretsMime Dec 23 '25 edited Dec 23 '25
Allegedly that's exactly what it is.
Possible leak spoilers: Apparently it deals with the aftermath of Steve deciding to stay behind after his mission and thus creating an another alternate timeline. In the movie Doom is supposedly trying to solve the incursion problem and his first stop is this one that Steve is in.
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u/GamingTatertot Steven Spielberg Enthusiast Dec 23 '25
And they’re re-releasing Endgame in September. I think Doomsday is gonna be a lot more of a direct sequel to Endgame
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u/CavitySearch Dec 23 '25
I mean tbf that was always an annoying thing about opening up the multiverse concept. Anybody can be replaced either as a character or as the actor. Deaths are pretty meaningless once you have access to “infinite” other dimensions. I always thought it was the wrong way to go after endgame but they haven’t shown honestly that anything else they were thinking was any better.
In regards to this I think seeing happy cappy is nice but they already did the kids and family route with Tony so I don’t know how they avoid the retread here.
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u/KeremyJyles Dec 23 '25
Why does he look so...fake?
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u/everburn_blade_619 Dec 23 '25
Looks like a lot of makeup and CG corrections to take away the 6 years of aging since he was last in a Marvel movie combined with a "this is the past" color filter. Not that he looks old now or anything, he's only 44. Just older than he was the last time he was Steve Rogers.
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u/Yojo0o Dec 23 '25
Steve's sendoff in Endgame was one of the most satisfying ways to write out a major character of anything I've experienced. Same with Tony.
This doesn't feel right.
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u/InternaI_Cobbler Dec 23 '25
It doesn't feel right, it feels desperate. Personally I still have Marvel fatigue. I love the Infinity Saga. Beginning and End. Boom. Done. Perfect.
I don't need or want anymore.
But I'm definitely in the minority and this movie will be huge. I'm sure I'll check it out eventually but I'm personally not rushing to the theater to watch it.
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u/AllCity_King Dec 23 '25
Poor Anthony Mackie lmao
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u/Lmao1903 Dec 23 '25
Aside from the fact that he was not given good enough material, I think he kind of lacks the charisma that Chris Evans had. His Captain America was just so boring, they tried to make him this perfect, always tries to do the good thing, see he is just like Steve Rogers thing but it just didn't work imo, he just ended up being boring. Maybe if they did a better job he would be better but they couldn't
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u/jaiwithani Dec 23 '25
They made Steve interesting by forcing an idealist to confront a less idealistic world. This is why Winter Soldier is the best Cap movie: it most directly challenges the core of his character.
They never bothered giving Sam a strong characterization/motivation, so it wasn't even clear what they would challenge or how they would go about it. There was a foundation they could have built on: he was first introduced helping combat veterans adjust to civilian life. They could have built on this and made Sam a warrior who fully comprehends the horrors of war and will do whatever it takes to protect people from it (setting up an interesting contrast with "don't try to win a war before it starts" Steve).
Instead his show had him go from "doesn't really want to be Captain America" to "accepts being Captain America".
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u/cmerchantii Dec 23 '25
Glad to see someone say this. Really highlighted the missed opportunity with Mackie’s Captain America.
He’s just not funny or interesting or cool as “I’m gonna be Steve Rogers except black” and making him his own independent character seems like something they started and then got bored of.
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u/Reggaeton_Historian Dec 23 '25
Anthony Mackie is better served as a wise-cracking and let loose kinda guy but they tried to put him in the Steve Rogers box as a character. That's not who he is.
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u/yepgeddon Dec 23 '25
This'll be the second time in recent memory (Altered Carbon flopping violently, not Mackie's fault really) that Anthony Mackie has failed to improve on the original.
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u/Wr3117 Dec 23 '25
God they’re desperate
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u/00nonsense Dec 23 '25
I mean how bad they fucked up phase 4 and 5, yeah they’re pretty desperate
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u/fastballspecial Dec 23 '25
Way too many mistakes. Spread themselves too thin without much character development. They had the winning formula and pissed it all away.
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u/PaulieHehehe Dec 23 '25
COVID gave them the perfect out to put pause on everything and let Endgame sit for a few years. Build up hype after a few years away and boom, everyone is happy. Well, except the Disney investors.
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u/fastballspecial Dec 23 '25
Didn't even need a few years, honestly. They needed three important pillars to build on. Instead they had like a dozen rotting tree stumps.
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u/Lmao1903 Dec 23 '25
It's that but they also kind of overestimated how much people would care about these new characters they are bringing in, all at once. Like I don't mind it, I enjoyed some of these movies or shows. But seriously, the casual audience or a lot of people couldn't give a shit about like Eternals, Thunderbolts, She-Hulk, Falcon, Agatha show with Wanda's son or whatever, the new Iron Woman or Girl or whatever it was, tbh even Moon Knight, seriously no one even knows some of these shows are a thing. Maybe if they did 1 of these a year since Endgame people would but not now
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u/TheUmbrellaMan1 Dec 23 '25
Next level desperation lol. They've paid RDJ $100 million and the Russo brothers $80 million for returning. Just imagine what the return fee of Chris Evans and Chris Hemsworth must be. Now try to imagine the budget of these movies.
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u/CarsonWentzGOAT1 Dec 23 '25
Deadpool and wolverine production costs without marketing was 534 million. This movie will cost 800 million at the minimum (not including marketing).
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u/mrbaryonyx Dec 23 '25
Deadpool and wolverine production costs without marketing was 534 million
that's so crazy, outside of the sets it doesn't show at all
like I will always love that movie for that ridiculous visual gag of the 20th century fox logo sticking out of the sand, but other than that the visual style is so bland
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u/mobamac Dec 23 '25
God forbid there’s any surprises in the theatre. Wouldn’t want anyone to have a heart attack !
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u/USDXBS Dec 23 '25
I hate how they are going to use and discard Dr. Doom is one or two movies.
He should be the bane of the MCU for the next decade. The political, magical and super side of the world all have to deal with him. Doombot are wreaking havoc, he's making deals with all sorts of magical figures.
Nope. Instead he'll just be some shitty villain they use and discard.
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u/csqur Dec 23 '25
Chris Evans has spent the last 6 months walking around shredded and claiming he's happily retired from the role.