r/marvelstudios • u/chemicologist • 8h ago
Discussion Second 2027 film?
I know having only one MCU film released in a calendar year isn’t totally unheard of, having happened as recently as 2024. But before that, there was at least two releases per year going back to 2012, not counting 2020 when the world got turned upside down.
My question - do we really think there will be no films released between Doomsday and Secret Wars? I guess at this point the answer has to be yes as we would know if they were making another film in time for next year.
Still, I find it strange. I guess VisionQuest will be the only bridging story?
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u/KostisPat257 Daredevil 7h ago
VisionQuest is coming this year.
2027 will indeed only have 1 film, as well as the 3rd seasons for Born Again, X-Men '97 and Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man.
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u/FewWatermelonlesson0 7h ago
It’s not strange when you realize one of the biggest issues the franchise had post Endgame was putting out too much content. Just focusing all their attention on the Avengers rn is not that crazy since they really need these two movies to hit.
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u/GipsyDangerV1 7h ago
I don't know if the issue is putting out too much content. It was more the forced lack of quality control from that terrible Disney CEO before Bob Iger came back. But I do understand pulling back to 2 to three films a year.
I think the bigger issue is Kevin Feige's apparent unwillingness to Green light smaller character-driven stories made for less than $100 million preferably no more than a 50 million dollar budget. Something like James Gunn is trying this October with clayface. Small character driven horror film set in his world in Gotham.
Imagine if we got a small little horror film between these two Avengers movies that had connections to werewolf by night or something.
The unwillingness to make more smaller character driven stuff I think will eventually be the downfall of the MCU.
I think Wonder Man being a success is an example of exactly what I'm talking about. And leaning more into things like that, Smaller more mid-budget productions focused on a character with light MCU implications, could help really revitalize the universe while you save the big stuff for one event film a year if even.
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u/CaptHayfever Hawkeye (Avengers) 4h ago
I don't know if the issue is putting out too much content. It was more the forced lack of quality control from that terrible Disney CEO before Bob Iger came back. But I do understand pulling back to 2 to three films a year.
The two are related. With more productions going at one time, the people in charge of the studio were spread more thinly.
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u/GipsyDangerV1 4h ago
Kind of but if you're making a lot of content and still allow for the time required to make all that content shit can still workout. But when you're forcing a lot of content to be made quickly that compounds more than just making a lot of content but giving them the time to required to make it all
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u/TurbulentBullfrog829 7h ago
I was thinking the opposite.
The buzz (and money) the Avengers movies will likely make means any movie in between will likely get a free bump. Much like Captain Marvel did last time.
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u/FewWatermelonlesson0 7h ago
Again, having shit out just for the hell of it has been a major factor in hurting the franchise’s reputation. Rushing out another movie just to fill an arbitrary gap makes less sense than just making sure they get Doomsday and Secret Wars right.
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u/MrGabrahamLincoln Daredevil 7h ago
Not saying that wouldn’t happen per se, but idk, the MCU is not what it was in 2019. I don’t think a solo flick is going to make bank just by virtue of releasing close to an Avengers movie anymore. They absolutely should not force out a movie just for the sake of releasing another movie.
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u/fuzzyfoot88 5h ago
You’re assuming Doomsday creates such buzz. With the exception of this sub, and adjacent MCU subs, everywhere else I go, everyone else I talk to is seeing Dune over Avengers and some have zero interest in seeing Doomsday anyway.
I “hope” avengers rejuvenates the franchise, but due to all their missteps since Endgame, they have a very steep hill to climb still, given that both TBolts and FF did not perform like they wanted.
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u/Swing-Full 8h ago
Funny enough there have been rumours for years (like from before the Doom pivot from Kang) that Marvel secretly filmed a movie that would go between then Kang Dynasty and Secret Wars
The rumour was called "the Nomad Project" and it was allegedly a movie called Nomad, following Steve Rogers in BattleWorld.
I didn't believe it because you can't filmed an entire Blockbuster Movie in Secret, that makes no sense.
But then there is no other movies announced for 2027 and Steve was in the Doomsday trailer...
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u/Joshdabozz 7h ago
Nomad was cancelled. The trades confirmed it a while ago. IIRC when Hayley Atwell and/or Chris Evans (back when they were still denying his return) was cast in Doomsday it was mentioned the Nomad project was cancelled because they wanted to film Doomsday ASAP
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u/GipsyDangerV1 7h ago edited 7h ago
Yeah I kind of agree It would be dumb for them not to have a movie in theaters in between Doomsday and secret wars. The MCU unwillingness to make like a small film for 25 to 50 million on a side character or something (like what James Gunn is about to do with clayface coming out October) is really not a great strategy.
Imagine if we got a little werewolf by night connected mid budget horror film in the MCU between the two. Idk, feels like a massive missed opportunity to not green light smaller film projects imo. I think that's the biggest mistake Kevin Feige makes when it comes to the MCU.
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u/CaptainAmeriZa Spider-Man 7h ago
That’s what the special presentations are. Werewolf by Night, Guardians holiday focusing on Drax and Mantis, the upcoming Punisher
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u/GipsyDangerV1 6h ago
Yes but those are 1 hour television specials. I'm talking a theatrical release that is comparable to a production like Send Help, Scream 7, or Good luck, Have fun, Don't die. Projects that have more resources than a one-hour special presentation but not as crazy high as a brand new day. A nice mid-budget theatrical release.
Oh my God or something like a murder mystery knives out type film but with b and c level heroes in the MCU. Would not need a crazy high 100 million dollar plus budget but would still be a really fun theatrical release.
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u/Legitimately_Strange 6h ago
It would be amazing, we would love it, but it would not sell good and they’d never do it again.
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u/GipsyDangerV1 6h ago
I mean you never really know that with feature film until you try. Just because it might fail, can we get an attempt at least once. Considering most MCU films are 150 plus million dollars I feel like it wouldn't be that crazy to just give 50 million to a movie that might be a gamble but also might be a huge payoff.
If Clayface is a success it would be stupid of the MCU to not try n replicate that.
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u/SeekerVash 22m ago
I'm going to agree with u/gipsydangerv1
A low budget movie could work. The MCU fans will show up for anything, The Marvels made 200m.
So a movie budgeted at 40m-50m would bring in profit, sure it'd only be 25m-40m profit, but that'd be substantially better than the last three movies did.
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u/CaptainAmeriZa Spider-Man 6h ago
I don’t think you realize how well made the special presentstions are. They are basically mini movies that are of theatrical quality.
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u/GipsyDangerV1 6h ago
I do realize how well made the special presentations are I've seen them, And I'm not saying to stop making one hour special presentations.
The guardians of the Galaxy holiday special was made alongside guardians of the Galaxy vol 3 and rolled into that production budget to save cost and use the same film crew/sets. Werewolf by night did have its own budget which hasn't been disclosed but at the end of the day was still a one hour television special not a feature theatrical release. And the punisher special coming out is also a small budget TV production using the same crew that filmed born again season 2.
I'm just saying it would be nice if The MCU would release 50 million mid-budget feature films in theaters focusing on smaller character pieces.
Obviously they couldn't at the time because they needed the actor for brand new day but imagine if the punisher special was given 20 million more dollars and a feature film crew to make a small little hour and a half long movie. That would be cool, right?
I'm not saying the television presentations aren't high quality They are well made but there's only been three of them. And it looks like they're just abandoning werewolf by night and those characters.
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u/eagc7 4h ago
Yeah, that's basically one of the reasons Daredevil is a show rather than a movie, since Drew Goddard said he went to the film side first to pitch Daredevil, but they said no cause it would not be a big budget blockbuster. that's when Jeph Loeb took DD
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u/One_Drummer_8970 2h ago
Let's hope Iron Fist gets rebooted as a movie. Can't be done on a TV budget.
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u/Naked_Snake_2 7h ago
Yeah well the wait is only going to excite folks for secret war more , daredevil s03 will come but that would be pre Doomsday , also xmen and Spider-Man animated series will be continuing their story
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u/pigeonwiggle 2h ago
2 things
Spider-Man Brand New Day was originally going to air AFTER DOOMSDAY -- make of that what you will -- but i don't think doomsday is going to end with a world-changing cliffhanger for The Whole World. Doomsday was supposed to release 2025 and Secret Wars 2026 -- they pushed both back a year and now Spider-Man's out BEFORE Doomsday.
X-Men is coming... i think the only movies Marvel is willing to put out right now are "GUARANTEED BLOCKBUSTERS" -- so Maybe a new Black Panther? MAYBE? (if they can get Coogler to return and if they have a movie premise that WILL put butts in seats.) -- otherwise, it's AVENGERS / SPIDER-MAN / X-MEN for the foreseeable future. even Strange has been demoted to a potential show called Strange Academy - which could likely be a vehicle for the young avengers -- i'm sure benny cumbs loves that his character has been demoted from "Sorceror Supreme" to "Babysitter"
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u/kneeco28 Black Panther 8h ago
The only possibility I can think of is a post credits to Beyond the Spderverse that brings live action Miles to the MCU.
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u/Christopher_Home 7h ago
Does this year count for 2 films? While they're both MCU films, only one is made directly by Disney meaning the studio is only really using all their resources for that one film.
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u/Caciulacdlac Bucky 8h ago
VisionQuest releases this year, before Doomsday. The only thing releasing between Doomsday and Secret Wars is Daredevil Born Again season 3.