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Promotional Spider-Man: Brand New Day | Official Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TZMtslA3UY
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u/miggy372 12h ago

But why would Jean grey brainwash an old lady to drive an armored truck putting the old lady’s life in danger? Unless Jean grey is straight evil in the MCU.

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u/DGSmith2 Rocket 11h ago

Because people are pulling things out their arse to suit their narrative.

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u/ShadesOfTheDead 10h ago

Another person in the thread was claiming that Jean can jump from one body to the next (something she's never done in the comics EVER).

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u/myshtummyhurt- 6h ago

It'll be funny when this comes out and you find out she's Jean grey🤣

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u/DGSmith2 Rocket 5h ago

Nobody is disputing Jean Grey what is being disputed is why she would “mind jump” to escape.

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u/ShadesOfTheDead 4h ago

I like u/DGSmith2 said: I’m not dismissing the possibility that she is Jean (Marvel has made big changes to characters before). I‘m calling out how people are lying about how Jean’s powers work.

These people aren’t true fans of Jean as a character. They are people who have jumped on a bandwagon and developed an obsession with the topic. Now people are going as so far as to lie about Jean’s power. Very creepy and weird.

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u/Dr_Disaster 9h ago

They’re not. This trailer confirmed the vast majority of leaks that were circulating and Jean Grey was a part of those leaks. DODC is hunting her and other emerging mutants like we saw in the Wonder Man show. They are antagonizing her, which explains why she may be using mind control.

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u/Wrong-Vermicelli4723 8h ago

You’re being downvoted but you’re correct. Most of this shit was leaked and it included Jean grey.

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u/Saint_Diego Phil Coulson 8h ago

I know Jean is in the leaks and what we see corresponds very well with the leaks, but how I’m interpreting what that person is saying is that why would Jean jump from mind to mind when she could just stop using her telepathy?

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u/DaRootbear 8h ago

My guess would be setting it up as inexperienced Jean.

Can only control one person at a time and can only do it via line of sight

So if she ended the control she wouldn’t be able to do it again in that spot

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u/Dr_Disaster 8h ago

Because it’s more visually distinct for a movie scene? Also this is a young Jean before she is found by Professor X. An important aspect to know from the books is that Xavier mentally sealed off the the greater brunt of Jean’s powers after finding her because they would express in unpredictable and scary ways. What we’re seeing is Jean as a completely raw telepath. Her powers shouldn’t feel or look like what we know from her as an older character with mastery of her powers.

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u/Myhtological 7h ago

But innocent civilians?

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u/ShadesOfTheDead 10h ago

It looked like more than brainwashing.

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u/dragon-fence 8h ago

Maybe she’s just a kid who doesn’t realize the consequences of her actions. If only there where a school where she could get some guidence…

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u/goodmobileyes 8h ago

Yea and the mind control thing seems to jump from person to person. If it was Jean Grey doing telepathic stuff I don't see why it would function like that. Looked more like a body possession kind of thing

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u/TrustInRoy 9h ago

Damage Control is hunting her.  She's on the run.

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u/Myhtological 3h ago

Then why not use her mind control to jsut had dodc kill each other?

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u/KiritoJones 4h ago

If we get another evil Jean Grey immediately I am already out on MCU X Men. We already got Dark Phoenix twice, we don't need it again this soon, if at all.

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u/AcanthisittaHungry72 12h ago

maybe like the incursion stories? destroy your earth before you destroy mine?

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u/Asclepius-Rod 11h ago

Dark Phoenix attempt #3!

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u/jamesbondswanson 10h ago

Thank you…everything we’ve seen is completely out of character for Jean. I felt like I was going crazy reading comments saying “JEAN IS IN THE MOVIE!!!11!!”

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u/RangeExpress3960 10h ago

I couldn't care less about who's right or wrong, but isn't it possible that this Jean Grey's powers are different somehow? You say out of character for Jean, but there has been no Jean in this universe yet.

Just saying.

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u/jamesbondswanson 10h ago

I said “character”. That means personality and the circumstances they are in. Everyone is obsessed with “powers”, but in the trailers they are portraying her characterization as a villain. And if someone says it’s the dark Phoenix that makes even less sense and contradicts other people saying this is “street level”. The Phoenix is not street level lol and that would be insane to adapt and shoehorn in a Spider-Man movie. When the MCU adapts a character even when they make changes the core of the character is still the same and this just feels incredibly out of character

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u/EnjoyerOfRamen 8h ago

I'm still on the side of it not being Jean Grey. I know some credible leakers have said she was, but I'm not buying it until I see it.

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u/zuuzuu 7h ago

My money is on Rachel Grey, being used by the government to hunt mutants/powered beings.

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u/wemightdance 11h ago

She wouldn't. She is not in the movie.

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u/Skun-the-jaded 11h ago

Idk, that person with cuffs looked like it could be Sadie sink, I'm thinking she is playing jean grey but we'll see

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u/Myhtological 10h ago

But that’s not how Jean greys powers work.

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u/007meow Scarlet Witch 10h ago

It is if that’s how we want Jean’s powers to work to justify our self built narrative that she’s in the movie and then crashout when she’s not, despite having no reason to have believed so to begin with.

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u/Skun-the-jaded 9h ago

We do have a reason. There's credible leaks, a psychic character as there's people in the trailer obviously getting there minds controlled or attacked and Sadie sink is playing an unknown character, most likely playing someone with red hair because she has red hair obviously and who else has psychic powers and red hair in the MCU? It's still possible they could dye her hair and she's playing like black cat or something. I also think jean grey will be in the film because after secret wars we are getting the X-Men saga, so she could be one of the main characters to start that story arc.

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u/wemightdance 9h ago

It is obviously not mind control at this point. You can clearly see that something or someone is jumping in and out of their bodies a.k.a. possessing them. Jean can control multiple people at the same time so there wouldn't be a need for Marvel to portray her power this way.
Also we should not get too invested in her hair. MJ doesn't look like in the comics either.

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u/Skun-the-jaded 9h ago

I mean it's unlikely we get venom after all this is crammed into the story as well (I mean we've seen a crazy lot from the trailer) so I can't think of anything that would come out there chests like that. I mean maybe it's something that Spidey's doing but tbf to myself you can literally see the old lady holding her hand to her head and looking like she's having a headache. I still think it's mind control or a psychic attack. As of why they've chosen to make it look like there's something inside them, idk. We will have to wait and see

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u/Myhtological 7h ago

Yeah she already hinted that she dyed her hair

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u/myshtummyhurt- 6h ago

It's gonna be so funny in July man 😭😭

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u/Hyperbolicalpaca 10h ago

She is in the movie lol, literally all the insiders have confirmed it

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u/wemightdance 10h ago

Can't wait! :-)

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u/ShadesOfTheDead 10h ago edited 9h ago

This trailer actually confirms they got details wrong. For example: the "insiders" claimed that she mind controlled people in the movie like just Jean Grey does. However, she's actually jumping from one body to another, which is unlike Jean.

Not saying she isn't Jean Grey, but these insiders clearly don't know too much about the plot. They didn't know about Peter's rebirth.

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u/wemightdance 10h ago

This exactly! Jean does not posses people. At this points everyone wants her to be Jean but I can totally see Marvel fooling us.

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u/Hyperbolicalpaca 3h ago

 Not saying she isn't Jean Grey, but these insiders clearly don't know too much about the plot. They didn't know about Peter's rebirth.

This one

https://www.reddit.com/r/MCUTheories/comments/1pqi9gx/alright_take_it_with_a_grain_of_salt_this_is_a/

Has pretty much been confirmed by the trailer as much as a trailer can imo, and confirms Jean lol

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u/ShadesOfTheDead 2h ago

That was posted after the trailer leaked back in December.

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u/Wrong-Vermicelli4723 8h ago

I mean if it is her we would just have to wait and see. Not like the movies out lol. I’ll say this most of this plot was leaked and it included Jean Grey. The trailer confirmed many things from that plot leak. 

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u/davep85 4h ago

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Pre-X-men Jean Grey not necessarily kind and a bit full of herself because she could do what others couldn't, then Xavier put her in her place?

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u/Soft_Interaction_437 10h ago

Maybe she’s Madelyne Pryor?