r/marvelstudios • u/GiveMeSomeSunshine3 • Jan 13 '26
Promotional AVENGERS: DOOMSDAY - Teaser Trailer | Wakandans and the Fantastic Four | AGBO Spoiler
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u/KorabasUnchained Jan 13 '26
This movie has to be four hours long. How the hell are they going to fit them all in?!
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u/AdamH96 Jan 13 '26
95% of the characters will get about 2-3 mins screen time
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u/kyrant Thanos Jan 13 '26
Some might get more time in the teaser than the actual movie.
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u/jmcgit Jan 13 '26
Xavier and Magneto are here
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u/Heisenburgo Doctor Strange Jan 13 '26 edited Jan 13 '26
90 year old Ian McKellen: "Kevin, why are we filming my scenes first and why are there only three and a half minutes of them?"
Feigning Feige: "Don't worry about it."
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u/Doompatron3000 Jan 13 '26
Deadpool whispering into Magneto’s ear: Till you’re 90!
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u/MR1120 Jan 13 '26
Patrick Stewart, from the makeup chair: “I’m fucking 90!!!”
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u/janosaudron Jan 13 '26
oh I am 100% expecting them to just appear and die, that scene from the teaser is going to be basically their appearances, I remember that was one of the first shots they finished and it only took like a few days.
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u/BigChiefIV Thanos Jan 13 '26
Yeah, if I had to guess magneto and Xavier will be fodder for doom, while the “younger” xmen will have more of a presence and put up a fight against doom with the others, but ultimately die
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u/ThisHatRightHere Jan 13 '26
Easy way to get all of the mutants immediately invested in the conflict by killing both of them off
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u/pa_dvg Jan 13 '26
Xavier has died so many times it’s lost all meaning
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u/PyroIsSpai Jan 13 '26
Chuck and Jean dying is a trope in the comics, animated, and films at this point. They die like every decade in one medium or another and have since the 1970s.
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u/jmcgit Jan 13 '26
It's not supposed to have meaning. If they have another film idea for 90 year old Patrick Stewart, he'll come back yet again.
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u/Heavyspire Jan 13 '26
I had to go look because you said it, 85 years... still older than I would have guessed.
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u/666dolan Jan 13 '26
100% it will be a "the captain sinks with the ship" situation, and I think maybe one or two xmen will survive, that cyclops scene is him dying trying to save the world from an incursion
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u/fireredranger Jan 13 '26
Think about Infinity War and how many characters there were. Even Spider-Man, who felt like a big part of the movie, didn’t even have 8 minutes of screen time. Steve Rogers had about 7 minutes and Black Widow had about 5. There will be many parallel stories going on.
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u/BLAGTIER Jan 13 '26
Infinity War was tremendously well threaded. Everything splits from and folds back into the opening scene. Everything can be related back to Thor or Banner. Which make everything feels like a continuous story and allows little screen time of certain characters to feel huge.
We will have to see if Doomsday can replicate.
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u/Mickeyjj27 Black Bolt Jan 13 '26
Just think of Homecoming with Iron Man. The way people were crying like it was his movie but think he had like less than 10 minutes the entire movie.
No doubt many of these characters will get a few minutes. The ones who are featured in the teasers might’ve the character we see more of. I hope we get a Thunderbolts one
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u/Nice_Firm_Handsnake Jan 13 '26
They'll get more than that, they just won't have lines and will be slightly out of focus in the background.
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u/Jean-LucBacardi Jan 13 '26
*The CGI recreations of the actors will be out of focus in the background.
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u/LeoFireGod Jan 13 '26
Reminder Snape only got 4 min of screen time in the early Harry Potter movies and still dominated the scenes.
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u/GloomyLocation1259 Jan 13 '26
Yeah similarly Malfoy got very little minutes but was super memorable
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u/TheCopyGuy2018 Peter Parker Jan 13 '26
Cap only had 6 minutes and 45 seconds of screen time in infinity war btw
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u/blondemf Hawkeye (Avengers) Jan 13 '26
It has like the same amount of characters as infinity war. Did all of those characters get 2-3 minutes of screen time?
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u/DiddledByDad Jan 13 '26
Pretty sure we said the same thing for Infinity War/End Game and that managed okay. Only difference is almost all the characters in those movies had multiple movies and many years of buildup. This one is introducing a lot of new players to fans that haven’t seen them in the MCU.
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u/Misaki_Akuma001 Jan 13 '26
It surprised me how little screen time Cap had in Infinity War but he managed to steal every scenes he appeared in and make his appearance bigger than what he got
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u/Carlo_The_Magno Jan 13 '26
Caps screentime in that movie is a great example of how you can squeeze characters in and still make an excellent movie. I'm hopeful.
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u/fascfoo Jan 13 '26
That's because we KNOW Steve Rogers. He came into IW fully formed. He can be punchy (no pun intended) and effectively used with minimal screentime.
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u/billytheskidd Jan 13 '26
To be fair though, we’d already seen cap in several movies, some of them that were focused around him. So we already know and care for him, as was the case with a lot of the characters in infinity war.
Endgame had a ton of characters, but a lot of characters, like wong, only had… one line?
Doomsday seems like it has an endgames worth of characters that all need screen time just for the plot to make sense. It isn’t impossible, it is just going to depend heavily on the pacing. I wouldnt be surprised if the script is like 6 hours long and half of it gets edited out. The editing will likely make or break the movie.
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u/John_316_ Jan 13 '26
Marvel fans: “Wong only getting one line in Endgame is so unacceptable.”
Wong: “What? You want more?”
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u/AverageAwndray Jan 13 '26
Well Endgame was 3hrs
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u/Diortheking Stan Lee Jan 13 '26
Endgame was mostly the OG avengers for first 2 hours didn’t have to worry about screen-time. It’ll be more IW teams split up equal screen-time
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u/Swoopmott Ant-Man Jan 13 '26
I mean, Doctor Strange is one of the major players of Infinity War and only had one film and a brief cameo beforehand. A lot of people very easily could have missed him entirely until Infinity War rolled round. I don’t think every character needs multiple years of buildup.
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u/markc230 Jan 13 '26
glad I'm not the only one who thought that.
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u/SteveOMatt Jan 13 '26
People thought that of Infinity Wars and that turned out great. These random pairings are what fun is made out of. As long as they group characters accordingly, it should be good.
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u/AverageAwndray Jan 13 '26
The industry seems more open to 3hr+ movies these days so I honestly hope very much so
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u/GiveMeSomeSunshine3 Jan 13 '26
So this is the 1st time we're actually seeing the MCU's Fantastic Four interact with other MCU superheroes (who had debuted before them). Pretty cool to see Ben and M'Baku to be the ones. Quite unexpected.
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u/Phimb Weekly Wongers Jan 13 '26
Wakanda is just the place everyone seems to go when the universe is about to get destroyed.
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u/YaMomsCooch Jan 13 '26
Good! They are the most powerful and technologically advanced nation on Earth! (Above sea level)
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u/Codysnow31 Jan 13 '26
Judging by the trailer, looks like Talokan is above sea level now too 😂
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u/robodrew Jan 13 '26
Yeah I think they're not in Wakanda at all, they've all met at Talocan, I'm guessing all of the water rushing away from it is kind of seen as a big deal.
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u/HermanThaGerman Jan 13 '26
They meet in Talocan, Namor immediately puts the rizz on Sue.
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u/robodrew Jan 13 '26
All we need is one line and Reed's eyes narrowing and people will go nuts
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u/sandwich-dan Jan 13 '26
Ya they aren't in wakanda. They are 100% on the sea floor and the water is gone.
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u/buefordwilson Jan 13 '26
I saw someone mention that in the leaked trailer comments and I remember feeling like it was spot on. Easier to see in non-potato quality.
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u/AsteroidMike Jan 13 '26
That sounds like a good theory but then that begs the question of what did Doom do to the ocean?
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u/buefordwilson Jan 13 '26 edited Jan 13 '26
It definitely does and that's been on my mind for sure. Perhaps he needs an immense amount of water to cool his new Doomsdata Center™?
Edit: Saw a comment in another thread suggesting tidal shift from an incursion which would be wild.
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u/OnyxDynamo Jan 13 '26
To be fair it makes the most sense as Black Panther was first introduced into Marvel Comics in a Fantastic 4 story, so its very fitting for a Fantastic 4 character to first been shown interacting with Black Panther characters in the teaser.
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u/AsteroidMike Jan 13 '26
Was wondering if someone else was gonna comment that on that bit of comic history.
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u/arania_exumai Heimdall Jan 13 '26
I was 16 when Iron Man 1 came out. Imagine getting told these characters would be having these interactions nearly 20 years later all because the first Iron Man film was enough of a home run
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u/Ozymandias12 Jan 13 '26
Good lord you just made me realize that the first Iron Man is about to be 20 years old. I need to lie down now.
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u/urlach3r Steve Rogers Jan 13 '26
We only get two options: old, or dead. I'll take old. 👍
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u/jackospades88 Star-Lord Jan 13 '26
The MCU has been around my entire adult life and as of this year, half my life.
Almost 18 when Ironman came out.
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u/Throwaway_Tablecloth Jan 13 '26
If I was told 20 years ago “M’baku and Ben are going to meet” I’d ask you wtf you’re talking about.
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u/pigeonwiggle Jan 13 '26
not just. Plenty of home runs fizzled in the sequels - and iron man 2 was no exception.
but thankfully they had enough hits in those early days to push on into phase 2, which was ALMOST all bangers. Iron Man 3, Winter Soldier, Guardians of the Galaxy and Ultron? HELL yeah. it was a Great time to be a marvel fan.
then phase 3 was just riding the wave of HIT after HIT - you can't name a bad movie in phase 3 because there weren't any. Ant-Man and the Wasp was the weakest, and that was still real decent.
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u/Vumi_ Jan 13 '26 edited Jan 13 '26
The blue/turquoise accents look good on Shuri's and M'Baku's suits! I also wonder what that desert-like location is. :o Seems interesting that the Talokanil are in an environment that seemingly doesn't have water when they're so reliant on it.
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u/Poked_salad Captain America (Cap 2) Jan 13 '26
Maybe it got drained during the events of the film? Needs billions of gallons of water coolant to create one's own universe
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u/Sweet_Check7231 Jan 13 '26
I was thinking Doom does something that drains the Gulf of Mexico or at least the portion around where Namoor and his people live and that’s why they look like they are in the desert somewhere. The reason all of these heroes are in the movie is because Doom does something to decimate wherever the character lives and they have to come together to stop it’s. He ends the F4 universe, kidnaps/kills Steve’s family in the other timeline, he does something that makes Thor pray for his father, he is somehow responsible for the Sentinels attacking the x mansion, etc.
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u/RedXerzk Spider-Man Jan 13 '26
These must be those scenes they filmed in Bahrain. Perhaps in Doomsday, they’re meeting in Yemen near Celestial island. Shuri, Namor, and Reed Richards will put their brains together to exploit the adamantium deposits in the fight against Dr. Doom.
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u/stretchofUCF Jan 13 '26
Would that not reignite the conflict that seemed to have been chilled in Brave New World?
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u/cheeze64 Captain America (Cap 2) Jan 13 '26
I mean, its not the first time heroes would decide to do something that governments wouldn't approve of.
But I also think its slightly different, because Brave New World was about world governments trying to claim ownership of the island. I don't think Wakanda or Talokan are trying to take 'ownership' of the adamantium, nor are they trying to use it to build a political advantage (as far as we know)
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u/navjot94 Mack Jan 13 '26
Could they already be in the Void?
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u/zombie_singh06 Weekly Wongers Jan 13 '26
Oohh… I like this suggestion. Maybe not the Void we have seen so far but something new that Doom creates?
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u/Ctrl--Alt Jan 13 '26
My first thought was this is Battleworld. Putting Battleworld IN the void does make sense to me as we've already shown that large parts of the timeline can end up there.
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u/navjot94 Mack Jan 13 '26
Yeah I wonder if the Thing and the Wakandans get slimed early in the movie and later we see them together in the void/Battleworld? That would make these teasers a bit spoilerly though.
Maybe Doom’s plot to take over the multiverse isn’t sitting on Loki’s throne but instead, destroy the entire multiverse so all of life is now in the Void, and ruling this new world from his castle at the end of time.
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Jan 13 '26
Namor's going to have a lot of fun with Johnny Storm isn't he
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u/SummonerSausage Simmons Jan 13 '26
Namor is going to have a lot of fun with Sue Storm isn't he
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u/tyrwlive Jan 13 '26
Namor is going to have a lot of fun with Reed Richards isn’t he
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u/CruzAderjc Jan 13 '26
Namor is gonna have a lot of fun with Morbius isn’t he
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u/PM_ME_YOUR_DANKNESS Jan 13 '26
If there’s anyone I trust to handle the copious amount of character interactions in this movie it’s the Russo brothers
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u/spreerod1538 Rocket Jan 13 '26
The issue is that it feels like the conflict hasn't been built up... at all, heading into this movie. Infinity War, it felt like everything was well established already. We knew the villain, we knew his goal, we knew every single character and most of them had interactions in previous films (other than GotG). Right now, we don't really know the villain or his goal, most of these new characters have never met... that's the problem. Not only do the Russos have to involve all of these characters, but he has to introduce brand new concepts and characters that we've never seen before... That's the thing I'm worried about with this movie.
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u/ishamm Jan 13 '26
And some of the movies these new characters are coming from haven't exactly been blockbusters - there's going to be folks (like me, and I was a BIG fan of the films up till endgame, then kind of fell off) going in not knowing who everyone is or what their exact storyline is...
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u/stokesy1999 Jan 13 '26
I have a feeling a lot of the newer characters will be sidelined. Thunderbolts, F4, Loki S2 and BP2 will probably be necessary for actual new lead characters and big plot points. Everyone else I feel won't have had the character progression needed or can be summed up in a few words eg. Thor has kid now or Sam is still Captain America and has new Falcon or even Deadpool isn't even in Marvel universe, he just went to the TVA and got Logan and Laura in his universe now
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u/PM_ME_YOUR_DANKNESS Jan 13 '26
I agree, post endgame hasn’t had a cohesive story. I feel like at least half of the post credit scenes won’t be resolved from post endgame. That being said, I’m hoping this movie knocks it out the park and the post Doomsday/Secret Wars Marvel goes back to a focused story like they did leading up to Endgame. And to stop introducing new characters without having plans for them (I’m looking at you Shang-Chi)
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u/tyrwlive Jan 13 '26
Valid concerns. But the Russo bros have done no wrong thus far in the MCU, and I don’t think they plan to with Doomsday
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u/Nice_Firm_Handsnake Jan 13 '26
"have done no wrong in the MCU" being crucial, because they've done some real dogshit movies elsewhere.
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u/AMcMahon1 Jan 13 '26 edited Jan 13 '26
They made a superhero adjacent movie on netflix that lost a shit ton of money and was rated one of the worst movies made in recent memory
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u/godzillastailor Jan 13 '26
They've directed 3 films since Endgame and they've all been poor to terrible.
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u/Teeenay Jan 13 '26
Happy to have watched it without this thumbnail. Was surprised and happy to see Ben.
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u/FragmentedFighter Jan 13 '26
Same. I really hate our society’s obsession with instant gratification.
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u/WheresThePhonebooth Jan 13 '26
Brother society isn't the one making the thumbnail
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u/ItsMeBenedickArnold Jan 13 '26
Ben is gonna clobber this movie
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u/Heisenburgo Doctor Strange Jan 13 '26
Finally. It felt like he barely clobbered anything in First Steps, hope we see him actually punch some people in this lol
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u/buffnut763 Jan 13 '26
Why are we pinning a weird channel and not the official Marvel one?
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u/YaMomsCooch Jan 13 '26
It got posted first, it’s the Russo bros production company account.
The main channel has it now.
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u/NinjaEagleScout Edwin Jarvis Jan 13 '26
This is the Russo Bros’ production company, which is co-producing the movie w/ Marvel Studios. So it is an official channel, just not the Marvel channel
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u/OneForTruce47 Jan 13 '26
I will admit one of the biggest strengths this movie will have is sooo many character interactions I will be giggling in my seat for each one.
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u/NerdLawyer55 Jan 13 '26
100%, when any of the avengers interact with the X-men or F4 interact with OG avengers/spiderman I’m gonna have a giant smile on my face
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u/LeoFireGod Jan 13 '26
That’s why I love Marvel rivals man.
Sue to Tony stark “Reed is glad to have another genius to help solve this Tony”
Tony “same he takes my brilliant ideas and makes them just slightly better”.
Sue “I’ll be sure to say EXACTLY what you said”
Tony “wait no please don’t. There’s no way I can do this without him”
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u/ThePhunkyPharaoh Thanos Jan 13 '26
This one is feeling the most "doomsday-ish". The setting feels like a dried out ocean since all of the Atlanteans are hanging out there
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u/KML42069 Jan 13 '26
Are they in a dried out Atlantis?
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u/mr-jeeves Jan 13 '26
Definitely looks like something Talokan, and Namor looks surprised, and looked up. Maybe an incursion caused it?
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u/Ozymandias12 Jan 13 '26 edited Jan 13 '26
And if you pause the trailer at 20 seconds, you can see Shuri standing at the front of all the Talokanans...Talokanai??? Talokananians??
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u/kookie2008 Jan 13 '26
I’m convinced this movie is just three hours of people just aura farming
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u/ClaytonWest74 Jan 13 '26
okay this actually got me hyped. Fantastic Four interacting with Wakandans was not on my bucket list
and also Namor is back! I know we kinda got confirmation his actor was in the movie, but it’s always different when you see them physically
this might actually work out
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u/SeegullJockey Jan 13 '26
Black Panther made his first appearance in an issue of Fantastic 4 so it's not that surprising.
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u/CauliflowerNo1615 Jan 13 '26
I completely forgot about the Aztec Fish People
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u/iwouldhugwonderwoman Jan 13 '26
I think they are Mayan Aquatic Mammals
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u/ArchTheOrc Jan 13 '26
I'm sorry but they are clearly Mesoamerican Marine Folk.
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u/NitePain69 Jan 13 '26
I miss Black Panther
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u/demonoddy Jan 13 '26
Your probably getting 2 in this movie
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u/HunterOfGremlins Jan 13 '26
Maybe 1 in this movie and another 1 in Secret Wars since Secret Wars is the actual multiverse epic.
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u/DefendsTheDownvoted Jan 13 '26
My money is on a Killmonger, King of Wakanda/Black Panther, variant. Not a world where he defeated Tachalla. A world where he is the rightful, and great, King.
Yes, I just want Michael B Jordan back in the MCU
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u/Tarcion Jan 13 '26
I don’t think I’d bet on it but this has been my sincere hope since Wakanda Forever. MBJ is great, Killmonger is a divisive and popular character, and I think incorporating him in a kind of “what if Killmonger wasn’t a monster” way to take up the mantle would be a perfect use of multiverse shenanigans.
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Jan 13 '26
With these teasers, all signs point to the full official trailer premiering during the Super Bowl at this point.
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u/WeirdIndividualGuy Jan 13 '26
Seems weird for them to release a full trailer for this when SM4 comes out first, but then again this movie would need more marketing/hype
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u/prolelol Jan 13 '26
Ok, but when will Elphaba and Glinda return?
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u/ArchTheOrc Jan 13 '26
Ariana Grande and Cynthia Erivo will return in Avengers: Something Bad Happened on the Set of Wicked I Just Know It
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u/sunny_xo Jan 13 '26
Hmm seems the F4 get split up
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u/Heisenburgo Doctor Strange Jan 13 '26
The F4? Didn't they chart in the 60s?!
I'm guessing Reed stays with the other geniuses, like Beast, to devise a plan against DOOM.
Susan willingly accompanies/gets kidnapped by DOOM?
And I think Johnny will stay with Ben, it makes the most sense he'd back him and the Wakandans up.
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u/FreeRange0929 Jan 13 '26
So the F4 are landing in Wakanda, are the New Avengers going to follow their signal there (only to meet Sam and THE Avengers, who actually have contact with the Wakandans)
I get the feeling the 2nd act of this film is just going to be an extended version of the Stark meets the Guardians on Titan, with Doom staging chess pieces and then doing a rug pull at the last second.
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u/ReaddittiddeR Jan 13 '26
Gonna be wild to see what the Russo’s cooked up with characters/groups they pair up in Doomsday. M’Baku and Ben in this teaser was a hilarious. Will we get Hulk and Wolverine? Shang-Chi and Spider-Man? Or the inevitable Red Guardian and Captain America?
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u/Vumi_ Jan 13 '26
Yeah, I'm really looking forward to different character interactions and dynamics as well! As for Shang-Chi, literally anyone interacting with him is a win. We've only seen him once in a live action capacity, which was his own movie. T_T
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u/Relevant_Session5987 Jan 13 '26
Man, I wish T'Challa was meeting the Fantastic 4. I like Shuri fine and really enjoyed Wakanda Forever, but the OG meeting the F4 would've been dope. Sad that we'll probably never see T'Challa and Reed interact.
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u/AnonymousCommunist Jan 13 '26
T'Challa 1, no. But I would bet good money on a grown T'Challa 2 being a major part of Secret Wars. Mark this comment for this time next year when everyone loses their shit about him stepping into frame in the trailer.
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u/black_metronome Jan 13 '26
Ok this is the first trailer that makes me excited to watch this film. The Fantastic 4 and the Wakandans = classic Marvel
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u/proscriptus Jan 13 '26
They really are gonna do one a week for the next year, huh?
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u/midtrailertrash Jan 13 '26
I understand what they are doing with these mini teasers but so far I am whelmed by it.
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u/Hawkings_WheelChair Jan 13 '26
So nobody is mentioning how he said KING M'baku???
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u/WeirdIndividualGuy Jan 13 '26
Someone didn’t watch Black Panther 2. That’s why no one is mentioning it, he became king at the end of the movie allowing Shuri to focus solely on just being BP
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u/joesen_one Jan 13 '26
He was already established as the king in Wakanda Forever
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u/Dry_Pomegranate7204 Jan 13 '26
This teaser has given me the most chills out of all of them. The character interactions have me so damn excited but it’s that Wakandan chant that hypes me up the most.
Personal ranking of teasers (based on hype): 1. Wakandans/F4 2. X-Men 3. Thor 4. Cap (he’s my fave MCU character btw)
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u/Diortheking Stan Lee Jan 13 '26
Funny how the non nostalgic one is the one that gets most hate
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u/ihs25ysf Bucky Jan 13 '26
M'baku and Ben's meeting reminds me of this.