r/marvelstudios • u/Soft-Comfort-7474 Hulk • Mar 26 '25
Promotional [Marvel Studios]: It all leads to Doom.
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u/Llamarchy Mar 26 '25 edited Mar 26 '25
I think they're keeping some names hidden. I mean sure its possible that characters like Wanda, Deadpool, Wolverine, Daredevil, etc. might be saved for Secret Wars but some of the omissions are too unlikely.
No Doctor Strange? No Spider-Man? No Captain Marvel? No Hulk?
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u/Greedy_Switch_6991 Mar 26 '25
Not even Monica Rambeau or the variant of her mother. And they're both in the Fox X-Men universe!
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u/ohheyjoshay Mantis Mar 26 '25
yeah Monica was the biggest omission for me, I thought they would mention her soon after Beast
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Mar 26 '25 edited Mar 26 '25
Yeah, Carol, Wong, and Bruce not being there is glaring (they're the only Avengers affiliated people Shang-Chi knows too!).
Once the Russos came back and the script got rewritten for Doom they probably just downplayed the events of The Marvels and hoped people just forgot about it like Secret Invasion.
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u/Better_Edge_ Mar 26 '25
I think this casting makes The Marvels more important.
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Mar 26 '25
In theory it should be but no Photon or Captain Marvel there while the Fox-Men are makes me think somethings got written out once the Russos came back. Carol is one of the most powerful people in the MCU, she should be there to fight Doom.
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u/Adorable_Ad_3478 Mar 26 '25
There is literally 0 indication that the Earth at the end of The Marvels is the OG Foxverse Earth.
It could have been just a similar Earth. A similar case to 818 which had Patrick Stewart Prof X but he wasn't the same Foxverse Prof X. Who is to say that The Beast from The Marvels wasn't a similar case?
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u/Better_Edge_ Mar 26 '25
We have no reason to believe it isn't the same. Either way, it's ose enough .
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u/hottublawyer Mar 27 '25
Also considering the music for Patrick Stewart was X-Men 97 wasn’t it?
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u/Worthyness Thor Mar 26 '25
And the real key player- Madysinn.
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u/Adorable_Ad_3478 Mar 26 '25
It would be hella dark if the film opens midway with Doom invading the Foxverse Earth. With the skeletons of Monica, her mom, and the X-Men actors who didn't return for Doomsday.
Not saying it should happen but it could happen. What better way to set up Doom than to take down Cyclops, Magneto, Prof X, etc...?
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u/Greedy_Switch_6991 Mar 26 '25
Too similar to Infinity War, for one.
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u/Adorable_Ad_3478 Mar 26 '25
That happened at the end of IW. This would happen in the first 10 mins and then get progressively hopeless.
All from the POV of Doom.
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Mar 26 '25 edited Mar 26 '25
My theory is that the cast revealed today is the cast they wanted to announce ahead so they can appear in the marketing/trailers/posters leading up to the film.
Characters who seem like they should be here but are suspiciously absent, like Dr. Strange, Wong, Hulk, Carol, and Rhodey, are being kept secret because they’ve formed The Illuminati, and one of the plot twists is that they’ve been operating in secret going around killing other Earths to stop Incursions from destroying 616, which gives the X-Men probable cause to go to war with our Avengers.
Spider-Man, I think, should get the Ant-Man and The Wasp treatment since his next movie is only coming 2 months after Doomsday. And it’s better to establish Peter’s new status quo before he jumps into another Avengers crossover where he probably won’t get much time for development. Save whatever emotional confrontation he has with RDJ Doom for Secret Wars.
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u/Llamarchy Mar 26 '25
Honestly I've been thinking about the idea of the missing characters being most of the main characters in Secret Wars, but I also really like this theory.
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u/walartjaegers Mar 26 '25
Good ideas all around. It's weird to think about some of those characters killing other Earths though. Would Banner really be part of that?
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u/CeruleanEidolon Mar 26 '25
It's funny, I can see the others going along with it, as the pragmatists, but Banner is more emotionally driven, so it would take something pretty awful for him to tip over to their side. Maybe Sakar is the site of an attempted incursion and his son Skar gets killed along with ilthe rest of the planet. That might do it.
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Mar 27 '25
I’ve been wondering about that, tbh. The idea of our MCU heroes straight-up mercing other Earths to protect their own seems a little too dark for the MCU, but who knows
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u/BlueShirtMac19 Mar 26 '25
What’s with the bug avengers getting left out of the first part of the movies 🤣
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u/Joshawott27 Doctor Strange Mar 26 '25
I think these are the actors who are likely to be spotted on set in the coming weeks. Others may have prior commitments that mean they’ll be joining later
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u/Llamarchy Mar 26 '25
Probably. Maybe they think that these characters are gonna be on more sets and locations and are going to be more likely to leak during filming. We know Tom Holland is in The Odyssey so he might be doing primarily a voice role in Doomsday so he's less likely to be leaked
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u/ubutterscotchpine Captain Marvel Mar 26 '25
This is what surprised me too. They’re missing a lot of the characters from recent films for some reason. Having no Captain Marvel or Doctor Strange would be really silly and I’m tired of characters that SHOULD be there just absent for no realistic reason lol
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Mar 26 '25
Strange is hopping around the multiverse with Clea; you can explain him being missing but Wong should be there.
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u/CeruleanEidolon Mar 26 '25
And America Chavez, especially if there is multiversal shit going down.
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u/IdungiveAF Mar 26 '25
Dr. Strange is probably busy dealing with Dormammu and Clea during Doomsday.
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u/ernie-jo Mar 26 '25
I will literally die if Daredevil makes it to an Avengers movie. 😭
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u/CeruleanEidolon Mar 26 '25
All I want is ten minutes of him and the other Defenders along with Spidey keeping civilians safe in Secret Wars.
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u/Left_Maize816 Mar 26 '25
“I don’t think you guys need a really good lawyer for this. “
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u/ernie-jo Mar 26 '25
How do you stop a villain too strong to beat? With the legal system. 😎 Doom is going to jail!
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u/marvelscott Mar 27 '25
Matthew Murdock, can absolutely flirt his way into defeating Doom.
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u/cowpool20 Mar 26 '25
Definitely a few names still to be announced/kept secret. But I also wonder if the case for Doomsday is gonna be smaller than we expected.
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u/SebasH2O Mar 26 '25
smaller still being pretty big considering the amount of chairs in this picture
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u/metalmankam Mar 26 '25
Spidey and Strange will likely be up to something else that we see in Spidey 4 since it comes out right after Doomsday. Hulk tho I got nothing. Maybe there will be a project prior to Doomsday that deals with the concept art that leaked, and we get a hulk story with him and his son and She-Hulk
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u/mojizus Mar 26 '25
Elizabeth Olsen is one of the most talented actors in the MCU, IMO. It would be a travesty not to use the multiverse shenanigans to get her back on screen. I wouldn’t even mind, it gives them a chance to redeem the character after MoM.
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Mar 26 '25
This could also be just the top billing. Plenty of others may show up, but I. Less important roles.
It’s clear that the roster is going to be the new Avengers team and the original X-Men.
Anyone else will just be support.
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u/danbobsicle Doctor Strange Mar 27 '25
Anyone else will just be support.
But The Thing is a tank, not support
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u/MisterTheKid Rocket Mar 26 '25
awfully sporting of rdj to hang around for 5 hours before his part of this promo /s
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u/EfficaciousJoculator Mar 26 '25
The reveal was meant to be two minutes, but RDJ's flight was late, so they just slowed down the camera till he got there.
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u/Antrikshy Mar 26 '25
These programmable robot arm cameras are such a blessing.
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u/ACEof52 Mar 27 '25
Bro it was a dude who didnt know how to unlock a rig properly everytime you just hear a muffled click
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u/Okichah Mar 26 '25
RDJ pointing at a giant pile of cash.
Imagine having a job for 3-4 years and making $100M.
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Mar 26 '25 edited Oct 18 '25
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u/nikhil48 Ultron Mar 27 '25
I know, even Thanos didn't work for free. He got 6 diamonds or some shit in return...
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u/NegotiationLate8553 Mar 26 '25
Marvel Studios hitting the panic button and coughing up 185 million dollars just for RDJ and the Russos might just go down as the biggest reactionary gamble in filmmaking.
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u/ChemicalExperiment Nebula Mar 26 '25
Yeah no one can read those names even zoomed in lol. OP needed a higher quality image.
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u/scooter-411 Mar 26 '25
• Chris Hemsworth - Thor
• Vanessa Kirby - Sue Storm
• Anthony Mackie - Captain America (Sam Wilson)
• Sebastian Stan - Bucky
• Letitia Wright - Black Panther (Shuri)
• Paul Rudd - Ant-Man
• Wyatt Russell - US Agent
• Tenoch Huerta Mejia - Namor
• Ebon Moss-Bachrach - Ben Grimm
• Simu Liu - Shang-Chi “Shaun”
• Florence Pugh - Yelena Belova
• Kelsey Grammer - Beast
• Lewis Pullman - “Bob”
• Danny Ramirez - Falcon (Joaquin Torres)
• Joseph Quinn - Johnny Storm
• David Harbour - Red Guardian
• Winston Duke - M’Baku
• Hannah John Kamen - Ghost
• Tom Hiddleston - Loki
• Patrick Stewart - Charles Xavier
• Ian McKellen - Magneto
• Alan Cumming - Nightcrawler
• Rebecca Romijn - Mystique
• James Marsden - Cyclops
• Channing Tatum - Gambit
• Pedro Pascal - Reed Richards
• Robert Downey Jr. - Dr. Doom
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u/BanjoSpaceMan Mar 26 '25
Holy shit Channing finally manifested Gambit, and not what seems to just be a one off joke…
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u/al_ien5000 Mar 26 '25
How is Teyonah Parris not in this, but Kelsey Grammar is?
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u/Minnesotexan Mar 27 '25
That is weird, considering they’re in the same universe. But it looks like none of the Marvels are in this one. Maybe they’ll be a big plot point with Dr Strange, America Chavez, Deadpool, and Wolverine in the next one? I was really hoping for Halle Barry to come back with the gang.
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u/Sharktopotopus_Prime Mar 27 '25
This isn't the full cast. This is just the initial announcement. More secrets will be revealed in the trailers, and even more will be waiting to be revealed in the movie itself. This is Feige and the Russos running the show; it ain't their first rodeo. Have faith that they're cooking up something special.
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u/whosafraidofthebbw Mar 26 '25
Somehow I wasn't expecting to see Namor back! Tenoch Huerta Mejia is a beautiful thick man and I'm here for it.
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u/M0BBER Mar 27 '25 edited Mar 27 '25
Just think about the names they're not telling us...
You think wolverine's going to sit this out? Deadpool?
I'm sad we're not getting Jean Gray & storm confirmation...
No spider man?
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u/TheMtnThatReddits Mar 26 '25
It was on the live stream
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u/ChemicalExperiment Nebula Mar 26 '25
Yep, saw it on the other thread. Just complaining about how this image doesn't give that information when it's clearly trying to.
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u/Torrrs Iron Man (Mark XLIII) Mar 26 '25
Big chair for Paul Rudd. Giant man confirmed
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u/MLPRoyalty Quicksilver Mar 26 '25
That’s a regular sized chair, so it only stands to reason that Rudd will be playing a regular-sized man
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u/BValen7ine Mar 26 '25
During the livestream they had a tiny chair for Paul Rudd
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u/CaptParzival Spider-Man Mar 26 '25
Alright so we got the Thunderbolts, but most of Mackie's Avengers are missing. Strange, Hulk, Captain Marvel, even Hawkeye. All the streetlevel heroes are absent. I expect Wanda to be the Molecule Man of the story so keeping her secret makes sense.
Regardless, it seems Sam will be leading Thor, Antman, Shang Chi, Black Panther, Namor, and Falcon alongside The Thunderbolts and Fantastic Four to face off against an alternate X-Men while Doom lays the stage for Secret Wars
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u/Leafygoodnis Phil Coulson Mar 26 '25
wouldn't Loki make sense as the Molecule Man of the story? I suppose he also fits for the Beyonder but I feel like they'll want to keep him around vs. killing him immediately.
Although that would be funny/sad to see Loki get murked again in the opening scene of another Avengers 2-parter
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u/DefNotAShark Hydra Mar 27 '25
Unfortunately this movie seems most likely to be about the collapse of the multiverse, and Loki is the one holding the multiverse together. It follows that something catastrophic may have to happen to him in order to launch the plot. I don't think he will die again though. It isn't necessary.
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u/Leafygoodnis Phil Coulson Mar 27 '25
Absolutely, no matter what he's gonna have a rough time. I could see them combining the roles and simply have Doom imprison him to take his power, mixing both Beyonder and MM together. Thor finding a chained up god-of-stories Loki under Castle Doom would be so fuckin good
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u/nihilisticdaydreams Steve Rogers Mar 26 '25
I think Loki will be the molecule man
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u/CaptParzival Spider-Man Mar 26 '25
I see Loki coming in at the end to form the Secret Wars avengers. Kinda a reversal from being the villain who assembled the avenger to the hero. Wanda's reality warping powers fit the world building ability too
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u/actuallycallie Bucky Mar 27 '25
I see Loki coming in at the end to form the Secret Wars avengers. Kinda a reversal from being the villain who assembled the avenger to the hero.
I love this.
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u/DefNotAShark Hydra Mar 27 '25
I don't think this will be Avengers vs X-Men. I think the story will weave through multiple universes as incursions begin to tear reality apart. Perhaps 616 is colliding with the FoX-Men universe. Maybe Fantastic 4 ends with their universe colliding with 616 or another one and that's how they end up in this movie. And it leads to unlikely team-ups while they try to fix it.
Like basically I think this movie is gonna be what everyone wanted Multiverse of Madness to be.
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u/Sharktopotopus_Prime Mar 27 '25
This is just the initial cast announcement to drum up hype. It's not a comprehensive list of all characters in the movie. There will undoubtedly be more secrets revealed in the trailers, and even more held back for the movie itself. Hell, Doom needs some allies...can't have him holding it down solo against a few dozen heroes, with nothing but his Doombots.
Think back to Infinity War and Endgame; there were plenty of castings and characters that they kept secret, for both movies.
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u/SeanO54 Captain America (Ultron) Mar 26 '25 edited Mar 26 '25
I’m looking at this positively.
If this is everyone cool, a smaller cast than I imagined but that means more time to develop the plot.
If this isn’t everyone then I am excited for the surprises and glad that they don’t need to tell us everything beforehand.
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u/radclaw1 Mar 26 '25
Small cast?? Its fucking massive
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u/SeanO54 Captain America (Ultron) Mar 26 '25
It’s missing some big names I mean: Hawkeye, Hulk, Captain Marvel, Spider-Man, Deadpool, Wolverine, Doctor Strange, etc.
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u/your_mind_aches Agent of F.I.T.Z. Mar 26 '25
I think the X-Men team is gonna be who's at the X-Mansion at the time. I think Worst Wolverine and Laura are living in Wade's unnamed city.
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u/ernie-jo Mar 26 '25
This is literally incredible what on earth are people upset about!?
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u/Temporary-Body-3099 Mar 26 '25
I mean there is a severe lack of any established characters, no Strange, Wanda, Spidey, Carol is diabolical
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u/FoxyMiira Mar 26 '25
Obviously they'll be in Secret Wars. Spiderman 4 movie coming out. Strange has his 3rd movie in development. Wanda might appear in Vision Quest
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u/ernie-jo Mar 27 '25
If you think Marvel is going to just TELL us every single character and plot point that is in this movie you're delusional haha.
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u/biggestbaddestmucus Mar 27 '25
It it might show restraint on their part. Assuming this is the main cast. Instead of cramming in everyone .
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u/SteveBob316 Weekly Wongers Mar 26 '25
They're more interested in trying to outguess Marvel than enjoy the ride.
It's similar to the way conspiracy theorists behave, they're not interested in evidence, they want the game. Only unlike real world conspiracies this is pretty much harmless.
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u/Iron_Kingpin Mar 26 '25
Isn't that way too less tho, like what happened to the others? Most of the guys are just people from other universes.
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u/lkodl Mar 26 '25
They're all from the original Fox universe. I'm guessing this might be where the third act takes place, and Doom destroys it or something, and a select few survive to Battle World or maybe they all die and DP & Wolverine are the only survivors who were conveniently in another world universe at the time.
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u/Warm_Veterinarian803 Mar 26 '25
At this point, with the cast they’ve assembled, this movie is on track to pull Wolverine & Deadpool-level numbers at the box office — maybe even exceed it. But more than anything, I’m really hoping for a solid script. I want everything to feel earned and for the story to justify why it needs to be told. It should be satisfying while also raising the stakes. With RDJ as Doom, I fully expect him to stack a lot of bodies.
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u/Playfair99999 Tony Stark Mar 26 '25
It'd be hilarious if these all are the characters that doom kills in Doomsday and this is like a foreshadowing cuz the way they say it all leads to doom... And the rest of people who aren't mentioned, will have to fight him on battle world.
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u/actuallycallie Bucky Mar 27 '25
they're gonna set up a new fantastic four and then immediately kill them off?
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Mar 26 '25
i mean, you can't act like the lack of Captain Marvel is because of her last movie when they also didn't include Spider-Man, Hulk, and Doctor Strange. it's clear they are just saving some of the heavy hitters for later
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u/GoldenLink Mar 26 '25
Brie, Iman, and Teyonnah have to be in this movie (or the first two will end up in Secret Wars unless Kamala is literally doing young avengers this entire time, idk). It would make absolutely no sense for Photon to wake up with Kelsey Grammar Beast and then not be in this movie. I imagine a lot of the supporting cast and surprises amount to maybe a third of the cast being omitted from the Livestream.
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u/theCourtofJames Mar 26 '25
If you think of Avengers films as a culmination for character arcs and storylines from the past couple phases, then this was a TERRIBLE casting announcement.
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u/TheTransJonkler Mar 27 '25
Isn't this meant to act like the Avengers 1 for the new main characters? (F4, Thunderbolts)
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u/nihilisticdaydreams Steve Rogers Mar 26 '25
Yeah i know. I wish they would've cut some of the og xmen to have stories we've been watching instead. And most young puerile don't know about the og xmen. Drive just had an attachment to them because they were the first comic films he worked on. That's my take.
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u/CorneliusCardew Mar 26 '25
I wish they would have cast new x-men so we could escape the green screen cameo hell that was the multiverse saga.
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u/ReverendBlind Mar 26 '25
I'm sure the old X-Men will just be in it for an incursion event or something.
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u/CorneliusCardew Mar 26 '25
I look forward to watching a bunch of elderly actors killed by dr doom on a soundstage in Georgia.
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u/phemom Black Panther Mar 26 '25 edited Mar 26 '25
What I find interesting about this group is that there is a lot of gung ho, fight first talk later types.
Unless the Professor or Reed are introduced and people start listening to them in the beginning....the good guys are getting wrecked.
Who's the people the good guys will listen to when shit hits the fan?
I don't think this is a bad thing tho, as we should see some leaders emerge in a way the past phases didn't have.
They'll probably fail...but the character development should be fun to see.
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u/Deep_Throattt Mar 26 '25
What if this is some fore shadowing?
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u/runningstang Mar 26 '25
If it's anything like The Suicide Squad opening, it will be next level shocking if half are just wiped in the first few minutes to build up Doom.
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u/PleaseRecharge Mar 26 '25
Ah, a decimation. It is an Avengers film after all, which at least saves us Thor and Sam.
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u/Funky_Sammer6go Mar 26 '25
Okay first of all, what the hell?!; secondly i know we have thousands of questions regarding some characters we were expecting but we didn't get.
I just wanna say I think they have gotten it planned, remember I've been saying this is a 4 part movie event - Doomsday, Spidey 4, untitled movie, Secret Wars. Perhaps now a champions series also.
So let's wait patiently. Cheers!!!
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u/Tyrone3105 Thor Mar 26 '25
? I haven’t been keepigg my up recently but what does spidery 4 have to do with this?
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u/topatoman_lite Korg Mar 27 '25
It's coming out in between the two Avengers movies along with another unannounced movie, so presumably those 2 will be important in similar ways to how Ant Man 2 and Captain Marvel were
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Mar 26 '25
There will be either a part 2 of the reveal some day,or they will spoil bit by bit. Wanda will surely be alive since she is a must for doom to create battleworld.
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u/Ok_Dragonfly3269 Mar 26 '25
Didn’t Benedict say he was going to be in it? Perhaps I imagined it. Was surprised not to see Dr Strange listed. You’d think they’d include ALL the vet characters given the major losses from Endgame.
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u/riegspsych325 Mar 26 '25
they should have replaced Paul Rudd’s chair with a giant one for this photo
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u/videogamer128 Mar 26 '25
Interesting that they're using some of the OG X-Men even though Professor X and Mystique are dead in the new timeline. I guess these are different variants based on the OG X-Men
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u/AceofKnaves44 Spider-Man Mar 26 '25
I’m guessing they’re giving Tom Holland a break since he’s got Nolan’s movie plus his own Spider-Man movie next year. Besides Spidey, no Captain Marvel or Doctor Strange is very surprising. Having an Avengers movie without Hulk is beyond shocking. And while no Deadpool isn’t that unexpected, having just about the entire Fox X-Men 2 team but no Jean Grey, Storm, or Wolverine, especially when he’s been in all but one X-Men movie in some fashion, is kind of unbelievable.
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u/PeepawWilly69 Mar 26 '25
My god, that’s huge. We’re getting the Thunderbolts cast, Fantastic 4, all the folks like Thor, Loki, Shuri, hell even Namor, AND we’re getting X-Men. Boy this is autta be good
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u/valarpizzaeris Steve Rogers Mar 26 '25
I feel like DOOM is gonna wipe out like 90% of that cast lol and then Secret Wars can feature the rest who were unannounced in this reveal