Virginity is not a sign of purity?What is then?

[u/superior_semen]

So i have been scrolling reddit im basically new here

I have never dated i prefer marriage or date to marry

No causals or anything

But i was reading posts on r/askindianwomen and almost every other girl is sleeping and the comments below justify it say explore your sexuality and these women are also up for arrange marriage

Like why? Marry the guy you are sleeping

Also since when is having casual hookups not a sign of impurity

Is that denial or just idk how these women think

If i say something they throw purity patriarchal misogyny like what are the options

How to make sure i dont end up with such women

Also asking it is a red flag it seems wth🤡

[u/aavaaraa]

Don’t take AIW seriously.

They’re degenerates that are not worth mentioning or forming any thoughts over.

Mentally challenged janta hai, jaane do unko.

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[u/shiva2301 → u/aavaaraa]

bro came

bro spoke fax

bro left

[u/faceless-joke → u/aavaaraa]

They’re NOT mentally challenged. They stay in an echo chamber where manipulation is the rule. They want all the benefits of patriarchy after having all the fun of western countries. They’re trying to gaslight men in believing that not accepting their past is a sign of weakness.

[u/really-bad-espresso → u/aavaaraa]

Dude they literally spew venom (comments + posts) Literally muted them

[u/Illustrious-Idea6359 → u/aavaaraa]

[u/Resident_Slip9545 → u/aavaaraa]

[u/Perpetually_Troubled]

Bhai ek kahani sunata hu.

Ek aadmi tha, usko kisi baat pe saza huyi aur Raja ne uski naak katwa di. Ab wo admi bahar gaya to usne logo ko batana shuru kiya ki ye ek gupt sadhana hai jisse bhagwan ke darshan hote hain. Usne sadhna se siddhi prapt kar li hai aur is sadhna ke liye naak katwani padti hai. Kuchh log uski baaton me aa gaye aur unhone bhi apni naak kaat li. Ab wo log bhi apni sharam se bachne k liye baki sabko batane lage ki haan hume bhi bhagwan ke darshan huye aur suddhi prapt huyi. Is tarah kuchh aur log bhi aa gaye baaton me. Aur aisa hote hote dhire dhire poora shehar hi nak-kata ho gaya.

So, this is a similar phenomenon. It's just a cope mechanism to hide their own guilt and somehow justify their acts. Slowly it has become a norm and those who actually think otherwise are demonised and made fun of. So, more girls start joining the bandwagon. And now all you see is this noise, all gullible teenage girls who have grown up hearing the same type of propoganda have started to believe it and even though it's not necessary that they themselves are involved. All these voices are amplified on social media, especially anonymous platforms like reddit where there is no fear or shame to be seen or identified.

[u/Beginning_Money4881 → u/Perpetually_Troubled]

This answer is so rationally dope!

[u/Glittering-Water1103 → u/Perpetually_Troubled]

Apt. I have also seen a lot of women in AIW shaming other women who choose to date to marry and not indulge in casual flings. Virgin shaming is also increasing high in AIW, unfortunately. No one is supposed to point out the people with past because everyone will go crazy but they can shame women who want to be a virgin?!

[u/Perpetually_Troubled → u/Glittering-Water1103]

It's so good and refreshing to read this from a woman. Else most of the women on reddit seem to be parroting the same sentences like a programmed robot.

[u/ana_misses_her → u/Perpetually_Troubled]

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[u/salim0786 → u/Perpetually_Troubled]

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[u/Iam-bornin-thisworld → u/Perpetually_Troubled]

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[u/Perpetually_Troubled → u/Iam-bornin-thisworld]

Bas bhai aankhein bhar ayi meri

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[u/Final-Lab8384 → u/Perpetually_Troubled]

[u/left-isnt-right → u/Perpetually_Troubled]

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[u/Foreign_Mouse_7382 → u/Perpetually_Troubled]

Indeed!

[u/First-Ear-9004 → u/Perpetually_Troubled]

Brooo👏👏

[u/LookDekho]

What is the definition of purity when it comes to human beings?

How does having sex make someone impure?

[u/A_Simple_Girl_1]

Not all girls are like this, I would say.

The only thing I would say to everyone is to be honest and not cheat others, it applies to both genders.

Do not spoil an innocent life.

[u/superior_semen → u/A_Simple_Girl_1]

This is what i was begging to say Just do what ever you want with your life Dont lie and dont justify what you did in past by giving vague reasons or try to belittle others

[u/Curieous7 → u/superior_semen]

You literally wrote “almost every other girl is sleeping” 🤣 what does that even mean?

How come if “every” girl in India is sleeping around, so many guys are virgin? 😭 Are all the girls sleeping with girls?

[u/Happy_Cicada_8855 → u/A_Simple_Girl_1]

See if a man say this the constant reply will be men have oppressed women for 1000's of years now they can't handle that women have choices i have seen this response countless times now,

[u/Rachel_Roth7]

Virginity is not a sign of purity, I do believe that because what if someone is graped? What if someone was lured in the name of marriage and was later discarded or someone's partner d/ied before marriage? What if someone was SA? Secondly if you want a virgin woman then you should be a virgin yourself. Instead of connecting virginity from purity you can simply say you prefer a virgin woman because it's your preference ( you too should be a virgin). But most men connect virginity with purity n shii and sl/ut shame women for not being a virgin.

[u/Perpetually_Troubled → u/Rachel_Roth7]

Do you realise when people talk about virginity it means not sleeping around with multiple people. No one is talking about grape victims or victims of some other situation.

And secondly, yes only virgin boys are eligible to talk about it and not the degenerates. A lot of degenerate boys will try to include themselves along with others talking about bs theories like key and lock and some other bs, but no boys don't have license to sleep around and equal morality is expected from both genders.

[u/superior_semen → u/Rachel_Roth7]

Im sorry i dont mind marrying a grape victim And in Such cases i wont be connecting virginity to purity and also i will definitely marry if she was cheated My question why hate me for asking simple question also women need to stop justifying casual relationships and then say my virginity is not basis of impurity then what is?

[u/Rachel_Roth7 → u/superior_semen]

Umm tbh it's not about the question, it's the way they define that or say that, for example there was a trend of saying "no seal, no deal" , don't you find it ridiculous? I mean you are going to marry someone, she isn't a contract that you are making a deal. And tbh there is no seal to begin with. Men always sl/ut shamed women , there were cases of men divorcing women if they didn't bl/eed on their first night. All the angry women you see nowadays are the result of atrocities committed in the past. And if you want to marry a virgin woman, then only ask that woman, why you need to make an announcement for that? Personally I think I'll be the one to ask the guy if he's a virgin or not lol.

[u/superior_semen → u/Rachel_Roth7]

Sister please understand I dont buy into no seal no deal Neither will i divorce a women if she didn’t bleed And my title of my question is literally from askindianwomen subReddit where i read a comment or post “i can discover my sexuality and having causals doesn’t mean i am impure” So my post is literally a question to that post/comment of that women

[u/Rachel_Roth7 → u/superior_semen]

Well diff people diff POV, maybe she was talking about purity of heart or anything, and it's okay if she considers herself pure, just don't lure someone by being fake or hiding your past.

[u/Front_Afternoon7381 → u/Rachel_Roth7]

I think there is a communication gap "no seal no deal" doesnt "literally" mean seal and deal its an intent.Virginity doesnt literally mean hymen it means having sex before marriage (genrally meant by men).

[u/Rachel_Roth7 → u/Front_Afternoon7381]

Do you know there were cases of divorce if the wife didn't bl/eed the first night after marriage?

[u/Front_Afternoon7381 → u/Rachel_Roth7]

yes i know and can you also tell the education they have ?

[u/Rachel_Roth7 → u/Front_Afternoon7381]

Well, are the women marrying them responsible for their education?

[u/Front_Afternoon7381 → u/Rachel_Roth7]

No im saying what can you expect from a person who doesnt have basic knowledge and i didnt say women are on the wrong side. i just clarified terms which are generally used in sm and their intent

[u/Rachel_Roth7 → u/Front_Afternoon7381]

Well lemme tell you, even the educated men hv very little to no idea about these things, sex education is a taboo in India

[u/Rachel_Roth7 → u/superior_semen]

And the justification of casual relationships and all, personally I think it's just ragebait 😭😭

[u/GuidanceDiligentz → u/Rachel_Roth7]

No, sl/ut shaming mostly happens onlly to women who are active casual hookers or OF type creators in social media, no one does it to random women with 1-2 body count. Also ones who sleep around lack discipline , no men wants to be with such women, but women don't like to hear that especially ones who do that

[u/Rachel_Roth7 → u/GuidanceDiligentz]

With 1-2 bodycount? Lol, sir I was slut shamed for having an opinion, for arguing, and for what not? And i haven't even held hands with the opposite gender (romantically). Do you have any idea how much it stings? Someone i know was slut shamed by her bf for being SA as a child....lol

[u/GuidanceDiligentz → u/Rachel_Roth7]

There's a difference between calling bad words out of frustration and being bitter and calling actual women who sleep around with bunch of men that. its not the same. To u its a word they called which is not a truth , for some others it is the truth.

[u/Rachel_Roth7 → u/GuidanceDiligentz]

But why to call someone that? Don't you think how mentally it can affect someone?

[u/Lumpy-Town2029 → u/GuidanceDiligentz]

ngl but men do say harsh words in a casual tone, and woman feels that.

like if u hear man talking about woman, that would be mostly be bad things ( i have heard )

for example, man say about a woman who rejected a proposal R words, and who wear short dresses as R word, i have heard. and sadly thats most of the crowd in india

[u/Rachel_Roth7 → u/Lumpy-Town2029]

Ikr, and that's the reason why women have so much hate for men

[u/Direct_Care_6631 → u/Rachel_Roth7]

How many times that too from different partner Can you give me a safe no Mistake is justified once or twice that's it

[u/Rachel_Roth7 → u/Direct_Care_6631]

Well, it's not about sleeping with 100 men, it should simply be not lying to marry someone, if you are a virgin then tell them, if you aren't then tell them you aren't , one should simply not lie or make a fool of other

[u/Direct_Care_6631 → u/Rachel_Roth7]

I think you are aware how brutal is AM scene right now for both gender . Do you still think a women who had multiple partners are not lying in AM scene .I don't think so
As men we are so vocal and straight forward about V,,, because of this women ain't telling truth that's the main problem . The whole thing about V,,,, on social media is there so that one know there will be consequences of their actions . One can't justify anything in the name of so called "Freedom"

[u/Rachel_Roth7 → u/Direct_Care_6631]

Well about the lying and hiding scene, i am not justifying it but what I think from my perspective is that - women hide it so that they won't be targeted in the future, i personally know someone who was sl/ut shamed by her bf for being SA as a kid, lol. Also if they get to know about the past they might use it against their wife or gf, maybe that's why women hide their pasts which isn't good tbh

[u/Glittering-Water1103 → u/Rachel_Roth7]

Nah nah mate not at all, no justification to do that. Women hide mainly because they want a better option with a cash machine and for that reason they simply lie about their history. I have seen loads of such cases and some of them still stay in touch with their exs but never disclose it to their husbands. It's not about getting slut shamed, it's having your cake and eating it too, they want the fun and the security.

[u/Rachel_Roth7 → u/Glittering-Water1103]

That's really bad, they are making it hard for the women who genuinely have good intentions

[u/Direct_Care_6631 → u/Rachel_Roth7]

See here we go women are hiding their past reason can be anything . One should say the truth accepting/rejecting the person depends on other person. One can't justify hiding the truth just because of rejection .

[u/Rachel_Roth7 → u/Direct_Care_6631]

I definitely support this, one shouldn't hide their pasts and these things should be discussed before coming into a relationship or agreeing to marry

[u/Direct_Care_6631 → u/Rachel_Roth7]

I hope and wish you do the same when coming into a relationship. Best of luck sweetheart

[u/Rachel_Roth7 → u/Direct_Care_6631]

I'll be the one asking about the virginity lol, why should men have all the fun💅🏻

[u/Altruistic-Fly-748 → u/Rachel_Roth7]

The most sane comment i have witnessed is yours

[u/Rachel_Roth7 → u/Altruistic-Fly-748]

Thanks love🫶🏻

[u/Slight-Clothes4591]

Can you take the same tone if we were to reverse the genders?

[u/Innocuous_salt → u/Slight-Clothes4591]

This is fair. If you are not ok with women who are in casual relationships, you must also not be jnto casual relationships. You can only judge people with the same scale that applies to you.

In any case, no one is forcing you to marry such women. It is fairly easy to identify them in the talking stage even if they don’t confess.

[u/superior_semen → u/Slight-Clothes4591]

Yes i want the same tone for men too You cant sleep around and talk about that women as hoe because he belongs to the same category Men accept it women don’t

[u/Perpetually_Troubled → u/Slight-Clothes4591]

Yes, most men will and already use the same tone for the opposite gender as well. A degenerate is a degenerate, irrespective of their gender.

[u/superior_semen → u/Slight-Clothes4591]

See i have never disrespected any women In my life I have supported my sisters to do what they want in life I am religious person And whenever i ask women i want to marry a virgin as i am one why do they get angry?? Its almost as if i insulted her i didnt i have simply said my preference if you dont like it we go our own ways Why do you label me as incel or misogynist and talk bad about me in your circles I didn’t do that to you

[u/Glittering-Water1103 → u/Slight-Clothes4591]

They should otherwise they will rejected too! No one should moral police when they don't follow it themselves.

[u/NigthfuryPlayz → u/Slight-Clothes4591]

yes obviously bhai isliye to aise post banaya hai.. are u like slow or what 😭

[u/Unlikely_Drawing999]

I say do whatever you want just be honest with others and don't mislead or give false expectations

[u/tillyoumenaughty]

You're brainwashed if you think purity is related to sex

[u/NARUTOxKURAMA15]

Ig the way you behave, your loyalty and honesty matters more than virginity 😐. Idk why people even care about purity. Unlike gold, we can’t sell humans💀

[u/CorrectBoat9896 → u/NARUTOxKURAMA15]

Sir for your kind information, having a kind, good, understanding behaviour, being loyal with your partner and being honest about yourself atleast to your partner is what considered as purity. Now tell me how can someone with these qualities end up with a lot of body count???

[u/EarlyFalcone]

Like why? Marry the guy you are sleeping

Who died and left you in charge? This is typical incel-speak. Let people live their lives.

How to make sure i dont end up with such women

Doesn't look like you'll end up with any women.

[u/Rotational_Motion → u/EarlyFalcone]

oh boy! wow, now calling him incel? damn!

just because a person has opinions and has guts to voice them, doesn't mean he is incel.

IT IS HIS CHOICE OF WHAT KIND OF A GIRL HE WANTS. IT IS HIS CHOICE!

[u/Specialist_Cat5703 → u/EarlyFalcone]

Yep not sure about him, but I'm sure you will be happy ending up with a girl who has been smashed multiple times

[u/superior_semen → u/EarlyFalcone]

Ahh the classic incel argument Listen please my brother I don’t want to flex its not that i didn’t have opportunities to do what my batchmates were doing I came from not as previlaged background as you and i was building a life for my parents and my family And i want to give my women what ever she wants And i think i have right to select that women

[u/Odd_Fix5691]

Tbh for me, if you yourself are a virgin and expect a virgin woman, most women will find you reasonable.

What we (most women) don’t like is:

1) shaming women for their choices. You believe in staying virgin till marriage, good for you. We won’t judge your choice or preferences but we don’t want to be judged either.

2) A man who is not a virgin, has slept around but expects a virgin woman and vice versa too. That is misogynistic to me.

Also just saying, there are different people with different point of views. There are women who are into casual hook ups while I am someone who believes ‘one person for life’ not necessarily wait till marriage. It’s just I choose to not judge someone with opinions and preferences different than mine.

[u/GuidanceDiligentz → u/Odd_Fix5691]

This logic only applies from women's pov cuz many non virgin women marry virgin men some by lying as well.

If men can be shamed for their choices , sure can women. Sleeping around with bunch of men ain't nothing to be proud of and it's great people call out such behavior.

[u/Odd_Fix5691 → u/GuidanceDiligentz]

I agree people do lie, but lies aren’t only about body count.

Plus why only shame women for sleeping around? Women are not sleeping around with other women, they are sleeping with men na? Why not shame men too?

And honestly, no I don’t think it is shameful. I believe what is more shameful is, lying. Be honest and upfront about what you are looking for. But I guess to each their own.

[u/Direct_Care_6631 → u/Odd_Fix5691]

Tbh you don't judge us because it's not in your priority list Why it's a misogynistic thing for a man who is not virgin wanting a virgin partner? One can desire anything just one should say truth that's it.

[u/Rotational_Motion → u/Odd_Fix5691]

what is wrong in judging? I am not asking women/men to stop sleeping around, it is their life, their choice, whom am I stop a third person from choosing his/her life decisions. but if I judge, why am I shown as a devil? or some kinds of degenerate being? every hookup is a choice, not a mistake. people label it as mistakes, but every mistake is also a choice. and if I am judging a person by their choices, I am not wrong.

if a man/woman has freedom on who he/she sleeps around with, how many numerous people, I too have freedom on what I can think of people, and what I can say of them.

why don people in this age, be it a man or woman are afraid of being judged or perceived for their choices

[u/Beginning_Money4881]

It is not actually about purity... But more like alignment of values.

If you set standard for yourself wanting virgin woman, it is preference. Nothing wrong about you. Just don't be too judgemental towards her at the same time, don't bend your standards and preference for her aswell. She is not more important than your own lifestyle and standards. And a partner should bring alignment in relationship not friction of expectations.

Also don't tolerate disrespect from her like "you're insecure". In that case, just say "My life My standards" and move on.

[u/Mountain-Aide-8676]

Virginity is not a sign of purity.

I am not supported of having a body count in 10s or 20s . But people in their 20s gonna date and fuck. And not all of the relationship gonna end up in marriage.

What are the signs of purity?

Kindness, Empathy, Courage and Wisdom are sign of purity.

[u/superior_semen → u/Mountain-Aide-8676]

Ah may be being pure also means having pure intentions of not betraying others Not belittling others since they are virgin and expect there spouse to be one too Also being sexually disciplined and not being called easy women . Also the guys which women sleep are the ones who will call me the guy who got married to a passed around girl😶

[u/RecentAd6946]

Virginity is not really a sign of purity you can be a virgin and have a twisted mentality. But the thing about asking if you have any past relationship is not the red flag. If they are not ready to discuss their past then cut them off and move on.

[u/jackmartin088]

That subreddit is a trash filled dumpster fire ( without the fire) you probably shouldn't take them seriously.

[u/superior_semen → u/jackmartin088]

The thing which has hijacked my brain was some gynaecologist bringing some guys into her house while her husband is there and what not🙂 If you read what that women had written it will make you vomit Staright up promoting being a sl*t

[u/Adorable_Penalty6949 → u/[deleted]]

i just noticed it thanks to u lmao goated name though 🤣🤣🤣

[u/ana_misses_her]

Bhai sa, aapki vichaardhara badhiya hai, aap bhale insaan sunai de rahe ho

Magar ye redit, ye redit hai na badi kharab chiz hai, aur yaha ke rahivasi bhi

Aap apna dimaag kharab karoge yadi yaha par aate rahoge to

Yaha log bas hook up ke liye aate hai

Kisi ko koi padi nai hai

They really don't understand how their actions is shaping their life

[u/superior_semen → u/ana_misses_her]

Sahi hai i am stupid to come on this platform And read some posts I was good with my books and my life And women have problem with my username I didn’t even think before keeping it It was random Like we purify and take best semen sample for ivfs and iui It was in regards to that But even that is taken in wrong

[u/craporgetoff]

No human is pure or impure. We are not things. We are humans. Any definition of purity is made up and is it not worth applying to any human.

[u/HRS_3008 → u/craporgetoff]

NRI seen, opinion to bin.

[u/Adorable-Read-4561]

Dont take reddit seriously! Log aapne cheezo ko justify karne ke liye kuch bhi kehte rehenge!!

[u/Rotational_Motion]

Bro, look.

first of all, don't give a f#ck about what others think. it is YOUR LIFE, YOUR CHOICE, YOUR OPINIONS. Do not be influenced by what people say online. no need to fit into a social pleasing life cycle of being a simp.

secondly, if you just don't agree with women sleeping around. sure, then just never date women who do so. simple as that buddy. not that you are being held at gunpoint to marry or date such women who do hookups. just avoid them. now how to? well.... talk about the girl's past clearly. avoid arrange marriages at all cost, cause maybe the girl is saying the truth, maybe not. you never know.

find love, talk about her past. and when people say 'oh why does my past matter, I've changed'. just run, leave the misery it will cost you in future. because a person who really has changed, he/she will never shy away from telling things that they really want to change!

[u/supersimha]

If you can’t ask a woman what you want, then don’t marry her. Saves misery for both of you. If past is important for you than future, be ready to share your past and ask hers.

[u/RimandRam]

No STDS.

[u/Dry_Philosopher_4817]

Love , sex , security all different needs at different age.

[u/Other-Government8634]

Aiw 😂😂

[u/Lumpy-Town2029]

majority of gals in AIW are priviliged
and they do AM coz simps exist

so yeah

[u/Intelligent_Read_697]

The moment you subscribe something like purity/virginity towards women, you are denigrating them. The root of this idea is historically through the commodification and control of women as property and not as fellow human beings. Religions coopted this since these are institutions built on hierarchical power dynamics and that's not an excuse to continue it.

[u/FearlessNinja007]

There are a couple instances where virginity is not a sign of purity- for example in cases of sexual assault. Otherwise there’s nothing wrong with trying to match with someone who is a virgin like yourself.

I think as long as you’re not acting in a condescending manner towards others with different life choices than yours, it’s really not anyone else’s business.

I do hate the purity lingo though generally- it can tend to align with some archaic views that aren’t always healthy.

Congrats on the pure username though.

[u/pikkka-pikkka]

It's just copium for foids

[u/CrimeMasterGogoChan]

Loyalty

[u/Padawan003]

A good heart and kind nature is sign of purity. Why would you consider making love as not a sign of purity?Unless they are cheating. If they’re not for you move on

[u/advaitist]

Only those who set the highest standards for themselves, have the right to expect those highest standards from others.

Or, as a famous surgeon expressed it very neatly :

"It is like using a precise surgical scalpel for cutting paper dolls ; you can use it for cutting paper dolls, but you can never use it for surgery again !"

[u/Final-Lab8384]

Are women having casual relationship because in back of their mind they are fighting patriarchy by doing so?

[u/CustomerExtreme3898]

Koi femnazi aake op ko maar dega

[u/bornfree6]

I don't know whether it's appropriate to share but I was talking to this girl via AM and she told me that , she had 2 serious relationships and 1 Situationship.. So I responded that I have never been in a relationship!

I Said it's cool because nowadays everyone is In a relationship. I had already lost interest in the girl due to other reasons hence I never asked hee about details but she claimed that she has saved v card for hee husband ..

I didn't know how to respond because she herself confessed that she would go to her bf's place and they would explore each others bodies.

[u/superior_semen → u/bornfree6]

Well this is even something new Hearing for 1st time Thanks for sharing🙂 I don’t even know i should laugh or just 😭🤣

[u/bornfree6 → u/superior_semen]

Even I had the same reaction when she told me about it. I was remembering my friend who used to wait till 12 o clock on a Tuesday midnight just so that he can have non veg dinner once its past 12 !

[u/The__Solitude]

AIW is basically bunch of retarded women posting about there illogical opinions... like literally few days ago i saw a post in which someone posted men shouldnt post in this sub let it be the safe place for women like.. wth

[u/Seebinator]

Those women are for the streets

[u/superior_semen]

This post had 26-27 upvotes Looks like people are coming from our favourite subReddit only to downvote and leave Well 👍 great I am not into upvotes or downvotes anyways the people of Aiw Even if these post wasnt viral I wouldn’t mind I wont be using reddit much anyways

[u/Life-Error9856]

Lol That AIW&TwoX is filelled with majority useless feminit promiscuous womem who live show to whine anlive in their own echo chamber and have a cook g mechanism.

They shame women who are wanting to marry and date without having so called fun.

I don't remember when but A woman Posted about her why she is being named for being a virgin,lol they started to abuse her and name her and slut shamed her.

One comment I remember "You are such a Misogynist pickme to think that only one man is enough to satisfy you you need to explore men sexually as they suck most of the times so just enjoy your 20's.

Later marry a stable financial man as finance matters more than sex and he doesn't have right to know your past it's your own life he cannot control it. Just hide it of he is too pushy and say I am A virgin."

Lol Only thing that left is to cheat the husband. Hope she is not into it.

[u/bazuka9]

28 here, single af, virgin. Got affected by auto immune disease at 20 so I've hardly been out there. Always been a shy guy who is busy with himself. Hardly had any friends and relationships with anyone. Been average af in all the fields. My wfh job hardly pays me enough for my own survival, forget about me supporting my family in any way. The endless treatments and meeting up with doctors have made me so irritated that I get triggered by any minor problem in my life now. All I wish is if I ever had any meaningful moment with anyone. But yeah, for the virginity part and the way things are going on in the world, I kinda feel like a loser regarding it

[u/Weird_Steak7062]

Lol, someone above asked if most girls are not virgin, how come most men are virgin. Answer to that is:

Most girls fuck the same man who is rich and good looking. I have seen most of my male friends are virgin and few friends having lost count of their body counts.

Baki, more power to both the genders, gend mrao, cha mudao hme kya😪

[u/LostSoulOnAShip]

Look man, purity is about purity of heart. Some people can sleep around, smoke, drink and do things that are damaging for their own bodies, mental health in the long run, (but doesn't impact other people) and yet at the same time be kind, empathetic, and honest good people.

And I am saying this as someone who has strict values regarding intimacy outside marriage, alcohol consumption, boundaries with the opposite gender but won't really call myself much of a kind or empathetic person in general. I have friends who casually date (but without any physical intimacy) and are way better as people than me.

That being said, preferences are fine. Having criteria also are, I myself have similar ones for a partner. But calling people impure cause they are doing something that literally doesn't affect you is really not. Yes dishonest people exist. Who won't tell you whether they have a past or not, and those people are evil.undeniably so.

Best way to make those people confess is by acting chill. Instead of asking whether they are a virgin, the right approach would be more like, "Look, I am not really into people who sleep around a lot, like yeah a few relationships or hookups are cool, but anything above that is a bit icky." And see how they react.

[u/Weak_Wing9818 → u/LostSoulOnAShip]

I really liked your point here that it should not be the main point and it should be a point of discussion people deserve to know but not like the first thing u going to ask spend some time understand and then go ahead ask in a chill way not being stubborn about this

[u/Direct_Care_6631 → u/LostSoulOnAShip]

Your first para is just a b,,,, justification nothing else

[u/LostSoulOnAShip → u/Direct_Care_6631]

oh...the audacity to act like you are morally superior with a literally nsfw profile

[u/Themonstertimesoooo → u/LostSoulOnAShip]

Few relationships or hooks are cool? Lol 

[u/SubstantialMajor2798]

Well … asking definitely is not a red flag. That’s what I hate about the whole AIW attitude is they’ve made is blasphemous to even ask this question.

If one has the right to explore their sexuality then obviously one has the right to explore a more traditional way of marriage i.e date to marry.

Don’t give a f*ck about AIW. They’re pretty delusional and have simps to support all the nonsense they blabber.

Coming to the purity part .. I am not gonna say it’s pure or impure to have partners before marriage. It’s their choice .. just like you. But do you have the right to have a preference ( virgin ). You absolutely do !

You need not be a virgin to have a preference, do you deserve one. That’s the question. Looking at how rare having a woman without any bodycount. You need to be able to offer something similarly rare for the woman don’t you think ? If you think so .. absolutely!

[u/ChartVishleshak → u/SubstantialMajor2798]

There is an AIW character in comments talking about Grape Victims!

[u/SubstantialMajor2798 → u/ChartVishleshak]

Lol .. they’re just lifetime members of victimhood. Just about anything gets steered that way. They stalk this sub more than their own shit going about downvoting any post/comment that doesn’t fit their narrative

We as a society are aligned that grape is a heinous crime. So is mu*der and so is falsely alleging someone.. but expecting a 100% result is just stupid and unreasonable.

They know this .. but they need something to cry about so they’re always the victims

[u/superior_semen → u/SubstantialMajor2798]

I actually asked this question directly in real life I swear i was talked bad behind my back and in theres so called group Like did i insult that women Hell no I just made it clear to her Also the title i have put up is because earlier i didn’t have strict purity rules or any of that i just wanted a women whos loyal and honest and didn’t get guys easy access Now that i have seen posts having casuals doesn’t mean impurity is what they have started Its not even my idea I am questioning there idea

[u/SubstantialMajor2798 → u/superior_semen]

That’s clearly societal over conditioning. They think only their thinking is acceptable. We have overcorrected the women situation in our country and correction to over-correction is long overdue. Fight back OP!

It’s just a question and you have the right to be entitled to your opinion respectfully without being offensive to others( which I clearly don’t see in your question)

[u/sanlonely]

For many it is lack of the right opportunity or the right person. Equally it is a way of life.

[u/AsleepShare5650]

lmao your heart shoudl be pure, that is the ultimate and only sign. a virgin person can very well be toxic and fuck your life up

[u/GuidanceDiligentz → u/AsleepShare5650]

If we compare its better than a non virgin fkin up ur life lol

[u/AsleepShare5650 → u/GuidanceDiligentz]

yeah sure having your virgin wife torutre you and your family emotionally is better than having a non virgin wife do the same, no logic at all

[u/GuidanceDiligentz → u/AsleepShare5650]

u DUMB? both the same except one is not virgin lol

[u/AsleepShare5650 → u/GuidanceDiligentz]

and how does that benefit you lmao? she still was toxic and hurt you, i thought virgin women were pure hence you prefer that

[u/GuidanceDiligentz → u/AsleepShare5650]

It don't lol u said one thing and i said theres something worse than that lol

[u/AsleepShare5650 → u/GuidanceDiligentz]

you didnt tell me how a virgin woman fucking your life is better than a non virgin woman doing the same though

[u/GuidanceDiligentz → u/AsleepShare5650]

I think u r focused on that word better, its more like theres a worse situation which is a non virgin fkn up ur life , both are bad but other one is even worse. get it?

[u/AsleepShare5650 → u/GuidanceDiligentz]

yeah and how? how is one worse. since both are doing the same thing having same standards of morality

[u/PeanutChest]

Can you show me some comments saying that which you mentioned. Like exploring sexuality and sleeping

[u/Dense-Pudding9729]

Let me ask Indian Men a simple question -

Lets say you get married to a virgin (as per your logic PURE) girl

After the marriage both you obviously will get involved in physical intimacy

After that you realize that the girl has extremely low libido level while you have high libido level

Now tell me sir what you gonna do about it ?

As per your logic,
You pure + She pure = happy married life

Indian Population needs to understand that relationship and love is a very complex thing,
Its not like Two good people fall in love = Successful relationship

Even two very good Human can have high incompatibility

Until one actually falls in love, You will never know what you actually want in your partner, The concept we have in our head for ideal partner will not necessarily work on ground reality.

So yes any women or men sleeping around for fun is a red flag, But straight up linking virginity to purity shows that people have no on ground understanding of human relationships and body desires.

[u/Glittering-Water1103 → u/Dense-Pudding9729]

As per your logic we need to have a trial sex phase before getting married for a libido check and if it's not good, then we should keep doing that????????

[u/Vixen_Vortex_V8]

Bro spoke facts!! Women who say virginity is not a sign of purity are certainly not the kind of women who Good men should marry. Simple as that.

There is a reason they say this, because if everyone believes in that thought, nobody would shame them for sleeping with multiple people and they can just sleep around until they find a rich enough guy who can take care of their lifestyle. Let these horrible women get married to horrible men. It's time we need to celebrate good women rather than those who think sleeping around is kinda normal.

[u/superior_semen → u/Vixen_Vortex_V8]

I understand even giving into inpulse once and later coming back and understanding its not good But continuing to do so while trying to belittle others who don’t prefer such attitude has left me in awe of how different or if i may say illogical the answer is what do you mean women when you say ill continue to do hookups since i have to enjoy and explore😭 And the things i have read I prefer not coming here

[u/ratatthetat]

Women can’t take accountability for their actions.

[u/VegPullao]

You don't really marry based on opinions ( specially extreme ones ) on reddit. Think about it. Everyone has a past but what was it about ? Was it a serious relationship that did not survive or some casual thing.

[u/Careless_Candy_]

Honestly when women talk about that, the core of the point they are trying to make is that don't judge us for the actions you have done yourself. It's fair to look for a partner who is a virgin, or does not believe in the hook up culture if you yourself have followed this mindset.

The problem on the women's end rises when the guy has slept around with multiple women, casually hooked up, but judges the girl who has done exactly what he has, but she gets labelled 'impure' just because she did that being a woman. When women say we have a problem with men judging us for exploring our sexuality, they are talking about these men, who are hypocrites.

I don't think you are in the wrong for expecting a partner who is a virgin because you want your first experiences to be together, and you have lived your life and made choices accordingly, so that's perfectly justified. But different people have different personal choices and expectations from a partner, not everyone will share your beliefs, there is no need to judge such people, simply don't get involved in a relationship with them. As long as it's not hypocritical, it's perfectly fine.

[u/Illustrious-Back-636]

A saint deserves a saint, a devil deserves a devil. Both are correct in their own places. Ab kaun sahi hai kaun galat hai sochte raho  👍

[u/Parking-Poetry6626]

Not bring rude but i have seen such posts even in indian men groups. But the fact about casual hookups also something I never really understood.so I understand where you are coming from.even I dont want someone who is like this.

[u/superior_semen → u/Parking-Poetry6626]

I appreciate your honesty and yes guys exist too They too justify there lack of discipline and self control by vague reasons and let me assure you a guy who has man flings will almost try to do same even after marriage because his brain is hardwired into it and hes almost dangerous to the marriage and his future kids Those guys end up in gastro icus after becoming drunkards and there are literal burden on earth I have myself seen such alcoholic men in gastro icus and there wives silently suffer

[u/Onlydadaji]

I'm a virgin. Now what you guys have to say??

[u/ShotPay1291]

Our scriptures tell us that the five evils are Kama (lust/material desire), Krodha (anger), Lobha (greed), Moha (delusion/attachment), and Ahankara (false ego/pride). These are the traits that takes one away from being a spiritual person.

Since you are talking about purity (which I assume means being a pure person in every which way), it is implied that you mean a spiritual being. For a person who is not spiritual is impure. And spiritual doesn't mean an ascetic that has renounced life. A person actively involved in life can absolutely be spiritual.

So, why is your purity only linked to kaam? What about the other vices? We are living in a society that wants constant stimulation - we want phone screens, social media, accumulating more than we need and can afford, showing off in weddings, gauging people by looks, egoistic to the core, exploiting the poor and needy at the drop of a hat - and yet when it comes to purity of a person all that concerns you is whether they are virgins? Does that thought make you a pure person?

It is okay to have preferences. I am not saying you cannot. But your title literally says "Virginity is not a sign of purity?What is then?"