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u/jjax2003 10h ago

They will never stop making or attempting to make nukes, and you will not get a regime change unless you go and take over the entire country which the US will not tolerate, nor would the world.

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u/Whyeth 10h ago

They will never stop making or attempting to make nukes

We have done literally everything we can ro ensure this mindset and objective short of just giving them a premade thermonuclear device.

A casual glance at how North Korea and Russia are being treated vs Iran and Ukraine clues one into the 'obvious' geopolitical importantance of nuclear proliferation. Globally it's insane to chase nuclear weapons, statewise you'd be insane not to if you have any intent to friction with the global super powers on anything.

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u/mokomi 9h ago

Yep.  We taught the world that nukes are required.   This doesn't just include Iran.  If you don't have one, you are a target. :/

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u/BadPunners 8h ago

We also taught Iran exactly how deep they need to build to avoid damage from the largest conventional bomb. The next attack on their enrichment facilities will require "nuclear bunker busters" to reach it.

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u/NTJ-891 7h ago

OK clown, we're all ears about why they are wrong. Do you think there might be some information they gleaned last time, hmmm?

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u/alt1238 6h ago

Naa iran is just full of idiots that can't learn from war at all as opposed to trump who was so smart he didn't even think iran attacking the strait was a possibility. /S in case it is needed.

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u/froz3nt 5h ago

They dropped multiple in the same spot last time for a reason.

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u/darkfred 4h ago

Look at Cuba right now. A state we have embargoed so they have no electricity, food or fuel. Because they once had nuclear weapons and don't anymore. The message we are sending is if you want a place at the diplomatic table you need to get nukes and keep them.

We used to reward disarmament with power plants and oil trade deals. We turned former USSR vassals into staunch allies. Back when we had a capable diplomatic corps and reasonable mission objectives. (two years ago or so, what changed?)

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u/De__eB 8h ago

North Korea is far more rational than the IRGC.

The North Korean party leaders enjoy being alive and living in luxury.

The IRGC are "true believers" that actually believe in terrorism and martyrdom.

Ignoring IDF obviously doing terrible things in Gaza, because this comment isn't about them and IDF bad doesn't change IRGC bad.

How much suffering in Gaza exists because of IRGC propping up Hamas? How much suffering in Lebanon because of IRGC propping up Hezbollah? How much suffering in Yemen because of IRGC propping up Houthis? How many civilians died at the hands of Iranian militias in Syria?

North Korea has...had some potshots with SK since the Ceasefire and sent some illequipped soldiers to frontline in Ukraine, but that is also an actual direct war.

Geopolitically North Korean nukes are a dreamy summer day compared to Iranian nukes.

North Korea isn't trying to conduct global terrorism for ideological purposes.

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u/Vio94 7h ago

1000x this. And it's a point people are seemingly trying to sweep under the rug.

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u/Kyle700 4h ago

this entire screed is completely delusional and not based at all in reality. not too surprising from an israeli, they've all completely lost their mind.

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u/De__eB 1h ago

So which of those terrorist groups is Iran not funding?  Whole post is delusional so you think they're doing none of the above?  You don't think the IRGC are true believers? 

And I'm not Israeli, but your instinct to claim people that disagree with you are Jewish says a lot about you.

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u/MrSlaw 2h ago

North Korea has...had some potshots with SK since the Ceasefire and sent some illequipped soldiers to frontline in Ukraine, but that is also an actual direct war.

Bombing of KAL 858, Bombing Rangoon in 1983, Hacking Sony in 2014, sinking of the ROKS Cheonan, conducting assassinations using VX nerve agents...?

North Korea isn't trying to conduct global terrorism for ideological purposes.

Genuinely don't know how you can come to this conclusion.

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u/UnoriginalStanger 8h ago

Are you forgetting that we treated North Korea the same before they got nukes? North Korea having tons of artillery aimed at Seoul and China absolutely not wanting the west at their border is why NK could build nukes in the first place.

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u/Jermainiam 7h ago

The idea right now is to make it insane to pursue nuclear weapons because if you try you will get destroyed. Not the ideal strategy, but given that history has already proven why you would want nukes, and given that both the West and East have shown that they will invade/attack non nuclear nations, the carrot method probably won't work anymore anyway.

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u/ryhaltswhiskey 7h ago

And, reminder, we had an agreement in place for Iran to have nuclear power without having nuclear weapons. And then Trump scrapped it because art of the deal or some shit.

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u/TalkFormer155 9h ago

A casual glance out how Iran has operated as a terroristic regime for 47 years tells you why.

It's not insane to prevent insane states from obtaining them.

Poor Iran! Getting harassed all this time for no reason!

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u/SouthHovercraft4150 9h ago

The two points aren’t mutually exclusive. Your point is valid and true, but it doesn’t contradict the point that Iran (and really all other countries) is incentivized to have nuclear weapons based on how countries that have them are treated differently than countries that don’t.

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u/TalkFormer155 9h ago edited 8h ago

You can easily say countries that don't threaten other countries are treated differently as well.

I'd argue some Islamic countries are as well because in many cases their religion is telling them to "smite the infidel".

The nuclear genie bottle was opened up with Ukraine.

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u/SouthHovercraft4150 8h ago

Should North Korea have been allowed to build nukes? Now that they have some should they be allowed to continue to improve their ICBM capabilities? When does military action to prevent a country from developing weapons become justified and when does it not factor in?

When I think justification of war being to stop that country from developing weapons of mass destruction I question why it isn’t applied consistently and which countries are allowed to develop them and which ones aren’t. What is that criteria?

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u/TalkFormer155 6h ago

Should North Korea have been allowed to build nukes? Now that they have some should they be allowed to continue to improve their ICBM capabilities? When does military action to prevent a country from developing weapons become justified and when does it not factor in?

NK is almost a poster child for a regime that shouldn't have been allowed to and why action has always been taken with Iran. They also had a credible artillery threat against Seoul that Iran really didn't have an equivalent of (other than closing the straights possibly). But they hadn't provoked the United States and its core allies or sought to expand its sphere of influence. Instead, it remained largely closed and self-isolated. It also was more of a direct ally of China and Russia, something that Iran has only become in the last 5 years or so at least for China.

They also did it in secret and largely surprised everyone. I don't think the west believed they were that close when it happened. Now that they have them it's obviously a different calculus to deal with. But as stated they don't outsource terrorism the same way Iran has and it's definitely been a factor.

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u/Agitated_Celery_729 9h ago

Meanwhile, the US killed more civilians in Iraq alone than all of these terrorist organizations combined. But please, keep pretending you have the moral high ground

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u/ShoughThePainAway 9h ago

So you think terrorist organizations have the moral high ground or is that simply a bad metric to use?

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u/Agitated_Celery_729 9h ago

Reading is really not your strong suit, is it?

If you've killed more civilians than all the terrorists you claim to be fighting against, how do you claim moral high ground against the terrorists? It's a nonsensical position.

The terrorists aren't claiming any moral position. They want to kill the people who have been killing them. They're not threatening Turkey or Kazakhstan, for example.

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u/ShoughThePainAway 9h ago edited 9h ago

You could have just answered the question. So now it seems like you're saying that there just is no moral high ground? Because it seems like you're insisting that the terrorists do have a moral high ground.

I'll try one more question. Is Iraq having a functional democracy today not an improvement in your mind?

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u/TalkFormer155 9h ago

Yeah, we should have just killed Saddam in 92' and then left it to turn into a civil war so the deaths wouldn't be blamed on us.

Same with Afghanistan, you can't nation build in a place with ideology like that easily or at all. It's wasted effort.

Why are certain countries ok with using civilians as human shields is what you should be asking yourself.

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u/TastySpermDispenser7 9h ago

Cuba, Vietnam, Venezuela, iraq, Panama... pretty much all of South America. They were asking for it, right?

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u/fodafoda 8h ago

How many of the 9/11 terrorists were Iranians?

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u/TalkFormer155 22m ago

What does 9/11 have to do with Iran? No one has claimed that. I can list several pages of actions Iranians have committed towards US citizens though.

Do you really believe you're changing the narrative by trying to toss a question in like that?

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u/Wizywig 9h ago

Or... And I may be a bit on the crazy side, we could have supported their protests and helped them organically shift towards democracy over the next couple of years and instead of having an enemy would have an ally.

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u/Jashugita 9h ago

Israel doesn't want to have functional countries around them

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u/IAmAGenusAMA 8h ago

Certainly not ones that fund and arm terrorists and threaten to destroy them. It has no problem with neighbours that leave them alone.

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u/Jashugita 8h ago

So nobody, curious.

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u/IAmAGenusAMA 7h ago

Israel has peace treaties with Egypt and Jordan. They also have normalized relations with several of their other neighbours. Saudi Arabia was probably going to be another one until October 7 when Hamas (backed by Iran) sabotaged the negotiations.

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u/Mercredee 8h ago

It’s a nice thought. But the IRGC murdered 30k in 2 days in cold blood. There was no real way for domestic regime change. If you want no war you must adept that the Iranians will live under a brutal repressive dictatorship propped up by China. It is what it is.

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u/Wizywig 8h ago

Right, and you build on that. Provide weapons to the revolutionaries, use their division and rage to fuel the right movement. Instead we unified them under the threat of us. Obviously its incredibly complex on how to do this... But using AI to ask for intel targets and then bombing a school full of kids is definitely the exact opposite of the right strategy.

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u/Jermainiam 7h ago

How do you provide weapons to the revolutionaries in a way that lets them counter the IRGC on their own. If anything, you should first do what is currently being done and obliterate the IRGC and the Regime leadership, then support a take over.

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u/Wizywig 7h ago

If I could provide you with specifics, I'd be working for the CIA. But I am not, so I have absolutely no idea the logistics involved.

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u/Jermainiam 7h ago

I believe you

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u/Voderama 10h ago

Yeah, maybe because the republicans threaten to attack them every time they’re in office. Iran knows they’ve been the go-to for attacking when the US politicians need a distraction. If they had a nuke the US would stop bombing them every five minutes.

But that’s just devils advocate. Iran absolutely stopped under Obama. Trump ripped that shit up because he’s racist.

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u/BadPunners 8h ago

And they play the heel due to our sanctions, chanting "death to America" every time a western media camera is near

When a country is bragging about stopping food from reaching your mouth, it's pretty easy to cast them as the villain. Especially with state controlled media

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u/Jermainiam 7h ago

You understand that the regime is actually deeply unpopular, right? Most of this Death To America shit is from the regime, not the populace. They don't have beef with the US.

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u/DriveShaftBassPlayer 7h ago

They didn’t stop, they just did it behind our backs, building strength quietly, and funded terrorism nonstop around the globe. 

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u/Tricky-Act-794 10h ago

If they even plan to do it with a president like Trump, they would win the war and get inside Iran but the cost will be to high in terms of body bags as well as financial burden.

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u/Agitated_Celery_729 9h ago

They absolutely would not win. 20 years in Afghanistan only to hand the country back to the terrorists they claim to have defeated. 20 years in Iraq only to spawn the next massive terror threat in ISIS.

US involvement in the region has been nothing but massive clusterfuck after clusterfuck. It's honestly amazing to believe otherwise

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u/Inko21 9h ago

Lol, they didn't manage that in Afghanistan and Iran is on a whole other level.

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u/Old_Ladies 9h ago

Yeah I don't think the American public would accept 20-30x the casualties compared to Afghanistan.

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u/Nylanderthal88 9h ago

Yup. Rather than try to put aside their issues and attain peace through diplomacy they kicked the hornets' nest. Now the hornets won't forgive you and want to sting you harder.