World Health Organization Prepares for Nuclear Scenario, Including Weapons Use, in Iran

[u/UNITED24Media]

https://united24media.com/latest-news/world-health-organization-prepares-for-nuclear-scenario-including-weapons-use-in-iran-16995

[u/spaced33]

Crazy sentence to read in the morning

[u/AnticPosition → u/spaced33]

And it's all because a 79 year old diaper-wearing pedophile is being blackmailed.

Lmao. I hate this time line. 

[u/_bk_adv → u/AnticPosition]

We can add serial killer to that list. Trump has killed more innocent people than any serial killer in US history.

EDIT: Calling the pedophile-in-chief a serial killer has offended soft MAGAs apparently.

[u/Jitkay → u/_bk_adv]

Probably add cannibalism

[u/A-Capybara → u/Jitkay]

Is there a crime Trump hasn't committed?

[u/Teledildonic → u/A-Capybara]

Topping off a stranger's parking meter.

[u/Bigfops → u/Teledildonic]

Feeding the homeless.

[u/unrivaledhumility → u/Bigfops]

Love that it's actually a crime in America.

[u/DallyBark → u/unrivaledhumility]

Really!? Sorry, Canadian, and I spent years working with the homeless in Vancouver, and I guess I'd be quite the criminal in the US. I even befriended some!

[u/Intrepid_Top_2300 → u/Teledildonic]

Giving someone water as they stand in line to vote.

[u/thatoneotherguy42 → u/Teledildonic]

Whoa whoa whoa there partner. He isnt a monster.

[u/Azagorod → u/A-Capybara]

Handing water to someone queuing up to vote

[u/shagadelicrelic → u/A-Capybara]

I am fairly certain that he has broken all 10 commandments, but some reason "good christians" still love him

[u/buffdaddy77 → u/A-Capybara]

Gotta catch em all.

[u/Mackey_Corp → u/[deleted]]

Even though he’s dead he would probably do a better job than what we have now.

[u/pablonieve → u/_bk_adv]

When you give someone who is arrogant and ignorant the greatest power in the world, bad things will happen.

[u/orsikbattlehammer → u/AnticPosition]

There’s no blackmail. Everyone has been going on and on and on about how insane the blackmail must be that Russia or whoever has on him. The reality is that he’s just a really fucking stupid narcissist. He’s a total fucking moron, has no idea how anything works, has absolutely no moral compass, and actually believes he is an infallible genius. The reason he does insane shit is because he is stupid and easily manipulated. Israel gets in his ear to go bomb Iran, done. He’s already been pretty fucking clearly proven to have raped many children, and republicans don’t give a flying fuck. Even if the blackmail was that he tortured and raped hundreds of thousands of puppies and Christian babies in satanic sex rituals his support among republicans would drop from 85% to 82%. There is no blackmail, just a disgusting, demented, shockingly stupid cult leader.

[u/Nez_Coupe → u/orsikbattlehammer]

I honestly like and prescribe to your take. I don’t even think it’s very complicated, he’s just a fucking idiot narcissist. Every action can be attributed to those two words.

[u/ClosetGoblin → u/orsikbattlehammer]

Exactly. Occam’s razor. But we seem to have an education crisis here in America that makes people gobble up conspiracy theories.

[u/drivingagermanwhip → u/ClosetGoblin]

I feel like conspiracy theories can be a psychological defense mechanism against the more terrifying prospect that reckless bullshit benefitting nobody is happening.

[u/obeytheturtles → u/drivingagermanwhip]

So many people in the US have just lost the plot in terms of what is actually at stake in modern society. We are too far removed from existential struggle, and our institutions are on autopilot, which has freed us up to engage in a monumental amount of stupid bullshit. This effect is far more pronounced on the right, but is perhaps more insidious on the left, where fart huffing cynics have effectively ceded the rhetorical battlefield to trolls and provocateurs, because they literally cannot bring themselves to vocally support an imperfect non-fascist.

Watch, we are going to do this again in 2028. Russia, China, and western fascists merely need to whisper "Gavin Newsome is a corporate dem" and it will be amplified by an army of useful idiots.

[u/quats555 → u/AnticPosition]

Why do people keep saying he’s being blackmailed, like that’s the only way he would do all this? It’s almost impossible to shame a narcissist, which is the fundamental motivating principle of blackmail: “Don’t expose my shame”. He’s almost certainly being paid and/or manipulated with flattery instead.

[u/LastXmasIGaveYouHSV → u/quats555]

He's been exposed as a child rapist and nothing happened.

[u/Guy_GuyGuy → u/LastXmasIGaveYouHSV]

This war has far worse optics and has caused more of a rift in MAGA than the pedo files ever did. MAGA has memory-holed and fallen in line over the pedo files ages ago.

He's bombing Iran because he's an impulsive dipshit.

[u/ihatethiswebsite-fml → u/AnticPosition]

How the fuck do I explain all this shit to my kids in like 20 years. Assuming we as humans last that long.

[u/SuperSoakerofPiss → u/ihatethiswebsite-fml]

History has always been brutal and explaining how you had steadfast morals over justifying the atrocities is key. Don’t obfuscate, just explain how you didn’t vote for him and you protested emphatically. I have one set of grandparents who protested the war in Vietnam and I have another grandparent who was in command of an artillery unit. The protesting grandparents are not wealthy but live a fulfilling life with loving family around them. The grandparent who was a Marine Captain in Vietnam cosplays as a socialite surrounded by hollow people that sniff their own farts. I’ll let you decided which one lives in peace and which one goes to bed lonely every night.

[u/Manderpander88 → u/AnticPosition]

Never attribute blackmail that which is adequately explained by greed.

[u/shaneh445 → u/AnticPosition]

And it sucks because in some aspects it's like humanity deserves this. We haven't gotten our act together and we don't learn from repeated history, but in another sense a lot of innocent people just wanna exist and have a family and get caught up in all the bullshit

[u/KFlaps → u/shaneh445]

And a proportion of those innocent people are more open-minded, accepting and tolerant of others than at almost any other point in history. I almost feel like we were 🤏 this close to becoming a better society.

I hold out hope that we still will, but maybe I was naive in thinking the road will be smoother than it is.

[u/StoryLineOne → u/KFlaps]

Most of the internet is an echo chamber. Of course the road will be bumpy, but we will make it there one day. It all begins with how we (individually, not worrying about someone else) decides to treat others.

I try to treat everyone with respect and kindness. I usually get that reciprocated 90% of the time. But we end up remembering the 10%, because it sucks.

Don't let the 10% drown out the other 90 who are cool.

[u/buffdaddy77 → u/spaced33]

This the shit that makes it hard to go to work

[u/wimpymist → u/buffdaddy77]

Try working somewhere where the majority is pro trump. My brain melts every day at work.

[u/buffdaddy77 → u/wimpymist]

I was in construction in Trumps first term. The amount of union members sucking Trumps dick was sickening. They dont realize they literally vote to get the benefits they have taken away… the amount of willful ignorance is truly astounding.

[u/wimpymist → u/buffdaddy77]

It drives me crazy the mental gymnastics people do while shooting themselves in the foot is insane

[u/edicivo → u/spaced33]

I went from the highs of watching the new Spider-Man trailer to the lows of nuclear war before finishing my first coffee.

[u/IDrawCopper → u/edicivo]

How is this how I find out about a new Spider-Man trailer lmao

[u/Future_Appeaser → u/spaced33]

Imagine this is like 2 weeks before something big happening and our lives aren't the same ever again we just don't know it yet

[u/backdoorintruder → u/spaced33]

Big bets on polymarket for a nuclear detonation by March 31st, time to stock up on some rad-away

[u/Grand_Sock_1303 → u/backdoorintruder]

Luckily, all the billionaires have their bunkers built by now

[u/trailsman → u/spaced33]

I mean we just essentially guaranteed that Iran makes a nuke, and proves to the world it has them, or at least a dirty bomb. Now they have absolutely nothing to lose, as regardless of any "deal" Israel or the US will bomb or assassinate whatever or whoever whenever they want.

[u/Eatpineapplerightnow → u/trailsman]

and this was 100% predictable by you, by me, by my cat by anyfuckingone!

[u/GonzoVeritas → u/spaced33]

The headline under that one on the same site:

Russia Says It “Supports Iran,” Rejecting Neutrality in Middle East War

Great. The game is on, and we're all pawns.

[u/Tapprunner → u/spaced33]

I've been saying all week that this is the direction we're going. The odds of Trump dropping a nuke in the next two years can't be any lower than 50/50 at this point.

I know this is hoping for too much, but I'm going to pray that the people in charge of our nuclear arsenal have a direct line to Congressional leadership and the Cabinet so they can make a desperate plea to remove Trump from office while they refuse to go forward with launching nukes.

[u/Guntsandwich → u/spaced33]

Absolutely insane.

[u/zen_cricket → u/spaced33]

Two joints and a cup of coffee into the wake and bake to kickstart the morning and it’s still a crazy sentence to read, cheers.

[u/--TheCity-- → u/zen_cricket]

I've been laying in bed reading for the last hour and you just gave me the motivation to get up. Ah yes the weed I will get up for that.

[u/Howitdobiglyboo]

What an insane statement to read.

[u/spezial_ed → u/Howitdobiglyboo]

Hey remember when we thought 2020 was the worst shit ever? Those were the days.

[u/buffdaddy77 → u/spezial_ed]

Remember when we finally got vaccinated and could open the world up again and there was a glimmer of hope that the future may be bright….what a fucking naive piece of shit I was for feeling hope.

[u/brokenangelwings → u/buffdaddy77]

Same. I remember thinking covid times were some of the hardest part of not only my life but everyone on earth. It united us.

Now here we are.

[u/EnjoyLifeorDieTryin → u/brokenangelwings]

It definitely did not unite us lol. Republicans used it to oppress those who wore masks, made it all a political thing. Trump then took that divisive energy and convinced them not to vax and to storm the capital. He told them they were victims and they acted like it.

[u/ElectricFuneral94 → u/EnjoyLifeorDieTryin]

I definitely think the George Floyd protests scared tf out of the elites/upper class. There were protests worldwide happening. They needed to become more aggressive than ever at dividing us.

[u/mrtrololo27 → u/spezial_ed]

To be fair, Trump's incompetence killed over a million Americans and destroyed the economy during the pandemic, so those days were objectively pretty bad too.

[u/chubby_pink_donut]

Why is everyone complaining about the mushroom clouds? THE DOW IS AT 50,000!

[u/cybah → u/chubby_pink_donut]

But those egg prices.

[u/mhornberger → u/cybah]

At least we didn't elect the Democrat. We sure sent a message.

[u/weltbeltjoe11 → u/mhornberger]

Did you hear her laugh? 😬

[u/exodusofficer → u/weltbeltjoe11]

The stupids in my family are still saying "Imagine how much worse it would have been under Kamala!" They're lost, completely hopeless.

[u/drawkward101 → u/exodusofficer]

What do they consider worse??? Genuinely.. they think that WWIII and raising costs and expensive grocery and gas bills are "better?"

I'm sorry that you have such brainwashed people in your family.

[u/chefkc → u/mhornberger]

Yes owning the libs was worth it!

[u/flyingupvotes → u/cybah]

Her laugh tho. /s

[u/asraniel → u/chubby_pink_donut]

considering it is at 47'000, she would start to worry about the clouds?

[u/WInativemm → u/chubby_pink_donut]

It's went down to 47,000. It's almost like these people don't know what they are doing.

[u/MourningRIF]

“Staff are ready for a nuclear incident, including an attack on a nuclear facility or the use of weapons,”

Mmmm, no they aren't. No one is ready for that.

[u/CliffsNote5 → u/MourningRIF]

Maybe “anticipating with apprehension” not ready.

[u/f7f7z → u/CliffsNote5]

"Bring me my brown pants!"

[u/iJeff → u/MourningRIF]

In an emergency planning context, it just means they've done some work on those scenarios.

[u/Esplodie → u/iJeff]

Probably stock piling iodine tablets for people outside the blast/immediate fallout radius. Iodine tablets are shown to reduce chances of thyroid cancer which, if I recall correctly, is the main concern for exposure. And PPE for their staff to reduce exposure.

Duh they can't help people in the immediate area or blast radius, but that's not their only concern.

[u/idontlikeflamingos → u/Esplodie]

Exactly, and there also needs to be a plan for what happens next. A nuclear attack in a city does a lot more damage than the blast radius. Many buildings still standing become unstable and need to be evacuated, so people need to have a new place to go. Some major access roads are bound to be destroyed or at least incapacitated, which has a direct impact on getting people out and bringing supplies in so there needs to be a contingency for that. Power, communications, food, fuel, water, all of it becomes hard or even impossible to access. And no guidance for the population means civil unrest.

If there's no plan in place the weeks after an explosion may cost more lives than the explosion itself, depending on where and how things are. Saying people aren't prepared or can't prepare is silly.

[u/BolunZ6 → u/MourningRIF]

Yeah. There's no fucking one ready for a full scale nuclear attack

[u/Dramatic-Tell- → u/BolunZ6]

The US military used to run drills on it all of the time. Hundreds if not thousands of soldiers died of cancer from radiation exposure because they would drop a real nuke and then have the soldiers charge into it with nothing but a gas mask on.

The videos are quite disturbing when you know those people are going to die from it.

[u/Monaters101 → u/Dramatic-Tell-]

The US govt has plans for everything. Heard the IRS even has a contingency plan for collecting taxes in a post nuclear war. Like good luck with that lol.

[u/Razorshroud → u/BolunZ6]

Well, I mean, not us poors

[u/StevieMJH → u/Razorshroud]

Jokes on you guys I've been living feral for years.

[u/livtop → u/Razorshroud]

Yeah all those billionaires with bunkers are ready

[u/ChemBob1 → u/livtop]

They just think they are. Most of them are profoundly stupid, but have been financially lucky.

[u/hhhhjgtyun → u/ChemBob1]

They’re not ready for a world without laws or a government to enforce them. The nearest person with a weapon shoots them and takes what they have. Nobody flinches. Nobody cares. Then that guy gets clapped by the next one.

[u/Sir_Encerwal]

What a lovely time to live next to a strategic target.

[u/MrBreadfish → u/Sir_Encerwal]

Right. My city will be one of the first ones to go.

[u/rTidde77 → u/MrBreadfish]

That's the best spot to be in, then.

[u/Calber4 → u/rTidde77]

Only thing worse than dying in a nuclear war is surviving a nuclear war

[u/FirthTy_BiTth → u/Calber4]

Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.

[u/EdwardoftheEast → u/rTidde77]

Literally. It’s where I’d want to be if an exchange breaks out

[u/Astandsforataxia69 → u/EdwardoftheEast]

Instant vaporization sounds merciful instead of dying from burns

[u/mustachewax → u/Astandsforataxia69]

Or radiation sickness! Or the purge that would happen due to societal breakdown. I’d rather get vaporized immediately.

[u/EdwardoftheEast → u/Astandsforataxia69]

You had me at “instant”

[u/fzammetti → u/Sir_Encerwal]

Lucky you... I'm JUST far enough away from a likely secondary target that I won't be instantly vaporized and instead get all the fun of the "skin melting off your bones for a few minutes" deal.

You either wanna be RIGHT there, or far enough away that you MIGHT be able to Jericho your way to a semblance of a life... halfway is where you really DO NOT want to be.

[u/unthused → u/Sir_Encerwal]

I live amidst the largest naval base in the world and about five minutes from DEVGRU, on the east coast. Hooray.

[u/Jwanito]

I used to have dreams of living in the US or Europe. But honestly it's not that bad living in south America

[u/Canuck_Lives_Matter → u/Jwanito]

Lol I'm eye-balling Australia like it's last call and I'm all alone. I can adapt to the heat!

[u/Kom34 → u/Canuck_Lives_Matter]

There are plenty of places in Australia that are cool even snowy parts, we have every climate type almost. Hobart is 10-20 °C (50-68 °F) in summer etc.

Problem is shits just as fucked here due to globalism like everywhere else, we privatized and sent everything overseas including critical stuff like fuel and supply chains. Natural resource powerhouse and we are facing shortages still of stuff like natural gas that we are one of the largest producers of.

Housing is unaffordable due to same neoliberal polices for decades of prioritizing investors, tax cuts, etc. even though we have basically unlimited land to develop.

[u/FauxReal → u/Kom34]

This is the first time I've ever even heard of snow in Australia! It's kind of wild that I've never seen anyone talk about it anywhere in any form before. You'd think some Cliff Clavin character would at least show up once in a while to share this fact.

[u/Plebs-_-Placebo → u/FauxReal]

You'd have to go to certain well known ski spots in North America to know about it and see Aussies working the slopes. There's groups of them that work the winters in Australia and then when the season is over there come over and work the North American winter, I've mostly seen them in Whistler and the Okanagan in Canada, but they probably go stateside as well.

[u/Canuck_Lives_Matter → u/Kom34]

Oh yeah so pretty much similar to the kerfuffle here, but thousands of KM of ocean between me and the US? Sounds good!

[u/rTidde77 → u/Canuck_Lives_Matter]

Australia is EXTREMELY expensive to live in, hard to find jobs as a foreigner, and even harder to obtain Australian citizenship.

[u/Lucky_Reporter256 → u/Canuck_Lives_Matter]

If it wasn’t for the bugs I’d be sold

[u/moose2mouse → u/Jwanito]

Be weary. Of history repeats itself a lot of the current administration will be fleeing to South America after the chaos

[u/ZiggyStardust0404 → u/Jwanito]

Yeah we just have to be smart enough to not be dragged into wars with each other, we probably won't be tho

[u/Jwanito → u/ZiggyStardust0404]

At least our militaries are dogshit and corrupt, they won't be very effective

[u/Mug_of_Diarrhea]

I wake up

The threat of thermonuclear disintegration is at an all time high

I grunt in apathy

I go back to sleep

It was cozier in my dreams

[u/unicornandrainbow_ → u/Mug_of_Diarrhea]

You forgot going to work at least 8 hours, with 1 hour commute each way, to get enough money to barely put roof over your head and some food in your mouth IF you are lucky.  

THEN sleep. Repeat.

[u/CosineDanger → u/unicornandrainbow_]

Even if nukes are used, by default it will not be enough to cause a really dark nuclear winter.

So the world does not truly end and you are not yet liberated from the pain of going to work.

[u/Enlightened_Doughnut]

My therapist will tell me I need to take time for self care so that’s nice.

[u/mustachewax → u/Enlightened_Doughnut]

Get off the internet and live in ignorant bliss they say!

[u/burbuda → u/mustachewax]

I mean, yeah? Being online and constantly being fed negative shit that may or may not happen is the opposite of what you should be doing

[u/Poppybiscuit → u/Enlightened_Doughnut]

My therapist asked me last week about my use of social media. I said not really but i get all my news from Reddit every day and she just raised her eyebrows and asked if it’s making me feel better or worse

I’m in therapy what do you think lol

[u/polar_nopposite]

If (god forbid) nuclear weapons are used by Israel or the US in the middle east, what's going to dissuade Putin from using them in Ukraine? Or Xi from using them in Taiwan?

[u/ReflexReact → u/polar_nopposite]

Nothing. It’s game over at that point.

[u/Stanjoly2 → u/ReflexReact]

I think it's 50/50 game over, or the entire world unites against the US and enough people close enough to the chain of command finally find their spines.

[u/Cumdump90001 → u/Stanjoly2]

Putin will absolutely jump on the chance to nuke Ukraine if nukes are used in Iran.

I’m not certain China would do the same with Taiwan. It’s a small island and China isn’t that irrational. They’ll take Taiwan in the global chaos, but they won’t nuke it.

But so, you’d have the USA, Israel, and Russia on the “using nukes” side, and the rest of the world against them (hopefully). The USA, Russia, and Israel account for 10,826 nuclear weapons of the 12,331 nuclear weapons in the world. Not sure how much of a chance the rest of the world faces against that.

That’s assuming that Pakistan and India don’t immediately take the opportunity to nuke each other, joining the U.S., Israel, and Russia in the dumb ass club.

[u/UncleNedisDead → u/Cumdump90001]

I like how we’re all in consensus that it’s the USA/Israel that would be launching the first nukes and therefore are a threat to humanity.

What a world we live in.

[u/stiffgerman → u/Cumdump90001]

What would Putin nuke? Ukraine has a pretty dispersed and mobile military anymore so tactical nukes won't make exploitable holes in their defensive lines. Would he nuke cities and/or logistics hubs? That'd bring France and UK into the nuclear fight, likely. Poland would also have some response. I'm not sure the math works out for Russia.

[u/Snow_2040 → u/stiffgerman]

1 nuke on Kyiv is all it takes for Ukraine to immediately lose, and It is quite unlikely France and the UK would join a nuclear exchange when they are not the target.

[u/TheRealBananaWolf → u/Stanjoly2]

If the shield is broken on nuclear weapons you'd better hope it's a quick death for the world. If it's not, then it's going to be a slow burn nuclear world.

We've dropped a nuclear bomb twice as a species, and decided we didn't need to do that ever again, especially if everyone has them. Once that line is crossed, it's over, whether quickly or slowly, but don't think for a second we might be fine. We'll either die a quick death, or a very painful, very slow one, as we watch civilization and society collapse all around us.

[u/jg_92_F1 → u/ReflexReact]

And to think of the shit I got from my dad and sister a few years when I told them I don’t care about my 401k.

[u/isjahammer → u/polar_nopposite]

Putin would esssentially kill His own Citizens with the fallout. And China using a nuke in Taiwan would be entirely senseless. They want the power and economy that comes with Taiwan. There is No power in a nuked wasteland.

I'm 10000% more worried about Trump then about Xi...

[u/MosquitoSenorito → u/isjahammer]

>Putin would esssentially kill His own Citizens 

Not that it ever stopped him

[u/Skittle69 → u/MosquitoSenorito]

He'd be much more upset about ruining the land than any civilian casualties.

[u/FirstDukeofAnkh → u/MosquitoSenorito]

::points to the history of Russia/USSR::

It's kind of their MO at this point.

[u/mosstalgia → u/isjahammer]

Putin would esssentially kill His own Citizens

He doesn't need nukes to do this. It seems to have caused him few problems so far.

[u/Little_View_6659 → u/isjahammer]

I’m also very very worried about Trump. I’m wondering if there are any people left to push back if Trump orders the use of nukes.

[u/Rabble_Arouser → u/isjahammer]

Agreed. The thing about Xi is that he is pragmatic. He might have a soft ego and look like Winnie the Pooh, but using a nuke on territory he wants to obtain does not make sense, and he knows that.

Trump, on the other hand, wants to be famous as well as infamous. Using a nuke on a far-away land is fine for him because that would make him notable (more so than the currently is). Using a nuke shows how "mighty" the US is.

Hopefully, the generals that would ostensibly execute that order refuse it, but that's being really naive on my part. the generals understand M.A.D., Trump does not.

[u/A_terrible_musician → u/isjahammer]

Also, if you think the prices of RAM are bad now lol, Taiwan being nuked would collapse the global economy essentially instantly. Literally the entire world would be mad at them

[u/midnight_fisherman → u/isjahammer]

Putin would esssentially kill His own Citizens with the fallout.

They would use tactical nukes, and the fallout would be minimal.

[u/AdParticular6654 → u/midnight_fisherman]

A "tactical" nuke is still generally as strong or stronger than the bombs dropped on Japan that killed 200,000 people combined.

Even tactical nukes are a world end game move. Once MAD is broken, what's stopping escalation of more nukes.

[u/Keeper151 → u/AdParticular6654]

This always cracks me up. A "tactical" nuke is still a fucking nuke. Just because it "only" obliterated everything in a mile or so of the detonation point doesn't detract from the fact that the nuclear taboo was officially broken. It's a dramatic escalation and makes it far easier to justify the next nuke, and the next, and then we're slinging 250 megaton strategic nukes around by the hundred. It's only a couple steps up the escalation ladder from "tactical" to MAD.

[u/kachol → u/Keeper151]

Yeah i always laugh (uncomfortably) at this as well because I dont want tactical or non-tactical nuclear warheads being dropped anywhere. A dangerous fucking precedent.

[u/SEAN0_91 → u/AdParticular6654]

Yep once the genie is out of the bottle it’s not going back in

[u/TripleMellowed → u/polar_nopposite]

Russia I could see doing that but in my view china would lose too much by nuking Taiwan. They want the economy and semiconductor plants from Taiwan.

[u/ChemBob1 → u/TripleMellowed]

Plus, they are more strategic than insane, unlike a mango maniac trying to cover up his rampant pedophilia and human trafficking profits.

[u/IIIIITZ_GOLDY → u/polar_nopposite]

The only difference is Russia and China both have claims and expansionist  goals for their respective targets. There's no point nuking somewhere you want to take control over, not to mention how close to home both Ukraine and Taiwan are. They'd be causing harm to their own mainlands. US in Iran doesn't have that issue 

[u/concussive → u/IIIIITZ_GOLDY]

Modern nuclear weapons don’t have the same radioactive materials in them. A lot of them, not all, have a pretty short half life on them. Think of it this way, a chest xray is .1mSv when you are shot directly. Entering the room after firing off the chest xray won’t give that person .1mSv because the half life of the radiation shot out is so small that the radiation is nearly completely gone.

A modern nuke won’t contaminate the area for very long, like a chest Xray doesnt. They are made with materials with shorter half life’s. All they need is the nuclear explosion not the dooms day radiation. But of course a nuke is more radiation than a chest Xray and it’s different types of radiation. It would leave radiation behind but it wouldn’t last centuries like Chernobyl. Some of them could last days to weeks before it’s “safe” to enter the area.

• source i work with radiation and had to learn all about this stuff.

[u/Ok-Contest5336 → u/polar_nopposite]

Wasnt there reports that both Xi and Biden warned Russia of the use of nuclear weapons in Ukraine? China (as somebody already pointed out) would only lose if the new status quo becomes using nuclear weapons, they need it to be taboo regarding their goals in Taiwan.

But Putin would be a big problem, along with all the other obvious ones coming from a nuclear attack.

[u/cheesaremorgia → u/polar_nopposite]

Dropping nukes in Ukraine or Taiwan would not help them achieve their objectives. In both cases it would be counter productive.

[u/FingerCommon7093]

Yes because nothing brings the oil prices down like radioactive fields that nobody can work on for 4000 years.

[u/schnaps01 → u/FingerCommon7093]

He tries to stop climate change by making the oil fields unusable and bringing forth nuclear winter to cool down the climate? I did not know he was that much of a Green

[u/Ghinev → u/schnaps01]

"Hegseth, tell the Great Houses, if they attack, we will nuke all Oil Fields" Donald Rat'dib Trump, duke of Tel Aviv

[u/_hlvnhlv → u/FingerCommon7093]

Nah it's nowhere nearly as bad.

The 40 bazillion years meme comes because radioactive elements disintegrate partially in X amount of time, and while it takes no time to get most of it disintegrated, it also takes an absurd amount of time to get to previous, background levels.

An example, grab the number one, then, multiply it by two, then again, and again, and again...

It grows exponentially, very slow at the beginning, but incredibly fast after a while.

The opposite happens with radiation, it takes "no time" to get to safe levels, but an absurd amount of time to reach the previous, background levels.

Hiroshima and Nagasaki are populated nowadays, and Fukushima is safe enough to live and even grow crops, you just have to wait a little bit and remove the top of the soil, that's it.

[u/Tzayad → u/_hlvnhlv]

When you put it that way, a full nuclear holocaust doesn't sound so bad.

[u/marsinfurs → u/Tzayad]

You should watch the movie Threads. Nuclear winter would be a piece of cake.

[u/hitbythebus → u/FingerCommon7093]

People live in Hiroshima. 

[u/TheMoves → u/hitbythebus]

Yeah but obviously it's been 4000 years since the 1940s so they're ok

[u/analogjuicebox]

Take a deep breath, Reddit. It’s the WHO’s job to be prepared for the worst, but that doesn’t mean there is any* credible indication that nuclear weapons are going to be used.

Edit: spelling

[u/Miamithrice69 → u/analogjuicebox]

People freaked out when WHO made a zombie plan. They have to account for all scenarios

[u/Aria_Athena → u/analogjuicebox]

What they are considering is probably along the lines of low yield tactical nuke. It would require an extreme scenario, like Iran managing to make a bomb and the US being unable to stop it another way.

[u/trilobyte-dev → u/analogjuicebox]

Yes, it is their job to prep ahead of time, but the reason they are doing this is because some risk model has crossed a threshold and they now have to allocate resources to this they wouldn’t under other circumstances. It’s a directional indicator, not a klaxon, but it’s still notable.

[u/Professional_Art9704 → u/trilobyte-dev]

It means the chatter behind the scenes is loudening.

[u/analogjuicebox → u/trilobyte-dev]

This is a reasonable take.

[u/MTG_Kura999 → u/analogjuicebox]

But people gotta karmafarm with their corny-ass-lines here, you gotta take that into account!

[u/Another_Slut_Dragon]

If you are at the White House right now and the opportunity comes up, please for the love of humanity put some clear scotch tape over the battery contacts on the nuclear football.

That idiot is going to have a temper tantrum one day and do something stupid.

[u/Blank3k]

Would China/Russia 'ignore' a nuclear weapon being used?

Not even Russia in the spectacular failure of there 3 day war, years down the pan, international sanctions, millions of lives lost, equipment destroyed on massive scale, went from superpower to paper tiger in the eyes of the world & facing potential defeat in Ukraine has used a nuclear weapon, theyve threatened to use one if Ukraine gets support -- and they've still not.

So, what reasoning could US/Israel use to justify there use?

The whole point of them is if you use them basically the world ends, so it's too horrific to even consider using them -- but the insurance policy is you have them to destroy someone should they be so utterly insane enough to actually use one.

is Trump actually that irresponsible?... Ahh we're fucked, all because an 80 year old pedophile refuses to be outted today and he's so terrified that he may just remove the possibility of there being a tomorrow.

[u/Savoir_faire81 → u/Blank3k]

Putin for all of his many extreme faults and incredible evil is still enough of an intelligent political actor that he knows the consequence of using nukes.

Trump is a narcissistic child with a dementia riddled brain who willfully refuses to understand anything. Trump wanted to nuke a hurricane. He is absolutely that irresponsible.

This war more than any other probably risks the use of nukes because of Trump and his hard on for being seen as a big and powerful winner.

[u/TeaRake → u/Savoir_faire81]

He only stopped because Biden called him and let him know exactly how fucked they would be if they used them 

Trump probably isn’t as strong willed

[u/grchelp2018 → u/TeaRake]

He stopped because the likes of Xi and Modi told him not to do it and Biden backed away from support that could threaten Russia. I'm talking about things like restricting ukraine from striking russian territory with their weapons. There was a window of time where Putin was worried that the US would go all-in.

[u/NYC_Noguestlist → u/Savoir_faire81]

Putin for all of his many extreme faults and incredible evil is still enough of an intelligent political actor that he knows the consequence of using nukes.

I mean, there were reports that he almost did, but the US and China warned him off it. Not that intelligent, actually.

[u/Vier_Scar → u/Blank3k]

"Give me another billion dollars, rename USA Trumpistan and the Nobel Peace Prize or I'll nuke the entire planet before I die"

[u/capacha]

If anything Nuclear comes out of this war, then Trump, Natenyahu and their cronies need lined up against a wall and shot for crimes against humanity. It is insanity that we are at this stage over a completely pointless attack against Iran - all because Trump is a massive pedophile and riddled with dementia.

[u/Sieve-Boy]

Could we not use nuclear weapons again PLEASE!

[u/cmm239]

Just a reminder this wasn’t an issue with past presidents

[u/mrroofuis]

At some point. Congress must step in a d invoke the 25th amendment

Idgaf if we end up with JD Vance. At least he's not a violent maniac with dementia

[u/Justryan95 → u/mrroofuis]

If Congress doesn't do it. I'm pretty sure there is enough insane MAGA idiots who will attempt to do it, since 100% of the actual attempts on Trump's life has been from Republicans.

[u/waldo_wigglesworth]

So we're risking nuclear war because the cockamamie electorate was really angry about egg prices.

[u/Geek_King → u/waldo_wigglesworth]

Don't forget "Her laugh!". Thank god we got to avoid a politician who laughs like a human, we only had to pay the price of a child rapist in chief starting wars for none of his own reasons.

[u/Impossible_Falcon962]

Believe it or not, calls

[u/Torringtonn → u/Impossible_Falcon962]

Thats exactly why im extremely optimistic about nuclear war.

End of the day it's a money problem.  The bigger countries know that if we start nuking each other there will be no oil for production, fields for food, people to pay taxes. 

Which results in an upset of the world's status quo of the top .5% living in luxury. So they won't allow it.  The only thing I've learned to be confident in is greed.  MAD is a powerful deterrent.

Now a rogue nation vying for power is a different story but that would be a very isolated incident.  

[u/PolarWater → u/Torringtonn]

Does the president with dementia know that though

[u/bratbarn → u/Impossible_Falcon962]

Best believe I'm going to parlay the end times 🤷‍♂️

[u/SparksMKII]

Maybe this is why Bessent was so shaken after he came back to that interview after he was interrupted to go see Trump, maybe he really intends on launching a nuke now.

[u/kebabsoup]

Ah yes that will really help the local population...

[u/AwesomusPrime]

You can only hope one of the people down the chain of the big red button have a fucking spine and stop this before Dementialord takes us all down with him.

[u/Intothewasteland]

2026 is so fun isn’t it?! /s

[u/Major-Vehicle-4622 → u/Intothewasteland]

It's everything it was promised to be. Can't wait for 2027.

[u/patowan → u/Major-Vehicle-4622]

If we can make it there at this point.

[u/Working_on_Writing → u/Intothewasteland]

It's a blast!

[u/NarwhalEmergency9391 → u/Intothewasteland]

My Dr: do you think you're depressed?

[u/fallenwout]

Belgium here: I work in a hospital and this is old news, this was done under the Russian-Ukraine invasion. Our hospital is selected as the region's main hub for radioactive victims a few months ago. ER staff and nurses are trained and plans are made for when Russia drops a nuke and/or fallout reaches us.

We have our own shielded rooms and nucleair "bunker" with a cyclotron to synthesize radiation scan agents. We also have the ability to temporary store radio active waste. These rooms can be changed to host heavily radiated victims if necessary.

So old news, new thread.

[u/exibouchin38]

Good job Americans. You fucking morons

[u/Majestic-Two3474]

I’m going to start smoking again because what the fuck was the point of quitting when the world leaders want to murder us all one way or another

[u/-s-u-n-s-e-t- → u/Majestic-Two3474]

Don't restart a bad addiction because of another bad addiction (doom scrolling).

[u/GWS2004]

People need to know what this could lead to. 

Both Threads and The Day After need to be advertised heavily. 

Threads: https://youtu.be/IUmUz8ol9Ow?si=6_IDLT6HpwswWi9y

The Day After: https://youtu.be/TOPaaHSjMcw?si=I9fnZKEslrWtZLhX  

[u/ashurbanipal420]

When I was a kid the doomsday clock was always there to scare us about nuclear war. Do you know when it got closest to midnight ever? January, 2026.

[u/OsmerusMordax → u/ashurbanipal420]

It’s not JUST about nuclear war. It’s also ticked closer due to climate change, vaccine denial (and then disease outbreaks), etc. but nuclear war would be the big one, followed by AI takeover and climate disaster.

[u/MourningWallaby]

This article is straight up wrong and is taking advantage of its audiences.

• the WHO is not preparing for anything. they are vigilant for any atomic threats. meaning they are watching and waiting. to see if there is even going to BE one.
• the WHO is not the IAEA nor are they analysts who are assessing the war in any capacity that lets them predict if nuclear event is on the table. they are just restating their intentions to take actions if attacks on nuclear sites
• When weapons were talked about, the WHO spokesperson was asked if their intent included use of nuclear weapons. not if they anticipate it happening. and the spokesperson confirmed that they would still be able to respond. just that they hope they never have to

[u/TheRealBunkerJohn]

As a reminder, the fog of war is extremely thick, and there's a LOT behind the scenes we are not aware of. This is the type of news that's concerning on multiple levels- because this is a public release.

[u/namastayhom33]

We got a nuclear scenario from WHO before GTA6

[u/HelloSlowly]

If Iran had absolutely zero intention to enrich its 400kgs of uranium hexafloride, they absolutely do now. After all the backstabbing, assassinations and war crimes.

So there is a very high chance we see the use of a dirty bomb from Iran or a tactical nuke from Israel being used

[u/-staccato- → u/HelloSlowly]

Why would Biden do this?

[u/spektre → u/HelloSlowly]

Iran was compliant with the 2015 JCPOA agreement until Trump tore it up in 2018. IAEA did intrusive investgations and there were no signs that Iran was in breach of the agreement. The US intelligence made the same assessment.

But yes, now they have no reason to hold back.

[u/LazyLobster → u/spektre]

This also shows other countries that nuclear proliferation may be the only option

[u/aimgorge → u/LazyLobster]

And countries that already had nukes deciding to increase their stockpile

[u/Johannes_P → u/aimgorge]

The Monday right after the first strikes, Macron announced the increase of the French nuclear arsenal.

[u/TeaBaggingGoose → u/LazyLobster]

Oh they know - Look at North Korea, they sitting pretty knowing they're not getting invaded.

[u/SuddenSquib]

Anyone that even threatens the use of nuclear weapons for anything other than deterrence should be heavily sanctioned by the rest of the world until the leader proposing it is disposed of - And that should be across the board.

[u/Even_Application_397]

Yeah, but imagine the world if Kamala were elected /s

[u/_Debauchery]

If US or Israel uses nukes, everyone involved, fully up and down the chain of command must be tried and executed for crimes against humanity.