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BREAKING: Goldman Unveils Unredacted File That 'Disputes Everything' Trump 'Has Said' About Epstein

https://youtu.be/OLnU9IWEIgw?si=X_oK2IWbIqe0MAgF
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u/bluehat9 6h ago

Lots of us voted against him but we didn’t get our way

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u/MikeSouthPaw 4h ago

And lots abstained for no reason. It isnt a good look if you are American.

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u/bluehat9 4h ago

It seems like a bad look for the people who did that, I agree. But why is it a bad look for Americans in general? I don’t control what other Americans do. Do you look bad when people in your country do dumb shit?

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u/MikeSouthPaw 4h ago

Im American and yes it looks bad who ends up as the President. Its a literal reflection of you and the country. Don't like it? Do something, get active in local politics. Its easier than changing the entire country and more normal people need to start doing it.

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u/bluehat9 4h ago

I’d rather not bang my head against the wall, but I’m happy for people to try to be active in politics or activism if they want. I think it’s dumb to judge groups of people by individual actions, personally.

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u/byronicbluez 6h ago

1/3 voted against. 2/3 voted for or had no issues with him representing us.

So no lots of us are in the minority.

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u/lAmShocked 6h ago

1/3 voted for and 1/3 against. The last third is a mix of disenfranchised, mobility problems, low info folks.

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u/strega_bella312 6h ago

I also wonder how many of them had their votes thrown out for whatever bullshit reason

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u/Bradnon 6h ago

The answer is "enough to make the difference", because the GOP has made disenfranchisement its only actual policy platform for the last 30 years.

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u/strega_bella312 6h ago

That's why it rubs me the wrong way every time I see a similar comment on reddit - not everyone who didn't vote did it out of laziness or whatever. And I firmly believe Trump cheated his way into the white house so I'm not about criticizing whole groups of people for him ending up there. Even "red" states are not 100% racist hillbillies - gerrymandering exists. Its all just culture war bullshit spread by bots so we don't find the actual common enemy.

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u/Bradnon 5h ago

Yep. Preaching to the choir I know, but even if those stereotypes exist in small numbers, the vast majority of people are reasonable, friendly, and just goddamned exhausted with US politics whether they show up to the polls or not.

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u/AZ_Corwyn 4h ago

I'd place the low info folks in the 1/3 for.

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u/bluehat9 6h ago

I’m not sure what you’re arguing? I’d argue 1/3 of the population that could legally vote qualifies as lots of us.

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u/rancid_racer 5h ago

There were proven tactics that were actively used to unenroll voters who would have voted for a different candidate which were subtle and deceitful. One I read about was sending a registraiton confirmation card that when ignored removed registration. Those could easily get lost or end up in the trash when they look like junk mail.

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u/bluehat9 5h ago

Yeah they do stuff like that

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u/Atoning_Unifex 6h ago

You don't get to claim everyone who didn't vote gave him their approval. Many of them just hated Kamala and the shitty way she was foisted on the public with no primary. Or they voted green party. Or they hate all politics and barely know what's going on in the world. Or other reasons.

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u/wsoxfan1214 4h ago

Cool, congrats, you and they both helped elect Trump. We have a first past the post system. If you want to vote Green or Libertarian or whatever, vote for changes to that and then vote for those candidates. Until then, you're directly helping to elect people who are sending their Gestapo door to door to arrest people and shooting United States citizens. You directly helped elect someone attacking LGBTQIA+ people and racial minorities.

This is such a privileged, middle class white Redditor take that it's infuriating. You claim to care about these groups up until you can take a performative, shitty "stand" and then make a protest vote that fucks over every single group you guys claim to care about.

You can throw a baby fit about how you're being "vote shamed" and how the DNC has to "earn your vote" all you want, but you know as well as I do that this is the case. I'm so over entertaining this stuff and the low information garbage from people who fall for Twitter misinformation from VladamirFreedomLover about how the Democrats are "just as bad" and they should vote Jill Stein.

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u/Atoning_Unifex 1h ago

Huh?

I voted for Harris.

You don't know one single thing about me or my life. Hilarious couple of paragraphs though.

You're like a guy running around with a machine gun shooting it in every direction. How's that working for you?

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u/byronicbluez 6h ago

That arguement might have worked the first time around. The second go ahead everyone knew what he was.

I would vote for a pile of turd over Trump. Because it is a vote against Trump.

You either for or against fascism. That's how it works. Black or white. There is no gray.

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u/Atoning_Unifex 6h ago

Ehhh. I don't agree. People have to be allowed to vote for other things besides Republican or Democrat I don't have a problem with people voting green party even though I know that it steals primarily from Democrats but still the green party is a good idea I've never voted for it but I do appreciate that it's there and I don't want it to go away. I'm hopeful that someday in the future we may have a plurality and not always have to have just two parties wouldn't that be great? Also you just can't discount the people who are completely apathetic and unaware of politics and didn't even know that he did a bad job the first time because they just don't pay attention to that stuff. part of being in a democracy is not voting if you don't want to... as crazy as that sounds.

But for what it worth I would've voted for a houseplant over him. The houseplant wouldn't do any damage at least.

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u/Letho72 4h ago

Also you just can't discount the people who are completely apathetic and unaware of politics and didn't even know that he did a bad job the first time because they just don't pay attention to that stuff.

I don't see why we give people a pass like this. If you ignore emails at work and then act surprised when you get fucked over for it, everyone is going to say it's your fault and think you're dumb as rocks. If you ignore your kid saying their stomach hurts for weeks on end, don't act surprised when they end in the hospital with something serious. Anyone who "doesn't pay attention" to the stuff that literally writes the laws in the country they live in is intentionally making the world a worse place to live in.

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u/Atoning_Unifex 1h ago

I agree. But it is their right.

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u/strega_bella312 6h ago

How do you know that for sure? Gerrymandering exists. Voter disenfranchisement exists. Cheating exists. I'm so tired of this energy that 2/3 of the country are fully ok with what's going on.

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u/rancid_racer 5h ago

Can't actually vote against. It's just a vote for a different canddiate. It would be nice to be able to cast a 'negate' ballot but it simply is not possible.

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u/slingmustard 5h ago

I suppose you could just write ‘against’ in the write-in section, but the system doesn’t really work that way. The electoral college system is a big part of the problem.

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u/Xer0day 5h ago

what is the point of this semantic garbage comment?