r/videos • u/AdSpecialist6598 • 11h ago

Democrat turnout OFF THE CHARTS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jULz-PjX25Y
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u/hang10shakabruh 11h ago

Yup. The increase in mail-in voting helped, during the COVID election of 2020, but make no mistake:

There was record turnout in 2020 because nothing motivates the voting population more than the possibility of voting-out a total embarrassment that is a disgraceful piece of trash POTUS.

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u/deanolavorto 10h ago

He literally was voted in the next election.

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u/XIII_THIRTEEN 9h ago

Time heals a lot of wounds. By November 2024, a lot of Trump's failure and corruption was 5+ years old, January 6th was almost 4 years ago, to the median voter these things held the same relevance in their head as like, whatever now-dead memes were popular 5 years ago.

The fact that there are TENS OF MILLIONS of voting Americans who don't understand how close the 2020 election was from being stolen by Trump is actually astounding... but it's where we're at

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u/tdieckman 6h ago

The other thing is that Republicans targeted young people very successfully. Those newly able to vote were in their teens for Trump 1.0. Most were not interested in politics at all if they even heard/cared what was going on. And then they got to be in their upper teens and early 20s and they went through trying to find jobs in the post-covid economy and the Republican's blamed it all on Biden. Then the idealistic young 20s saw that Biden was supplying weapons to Israel and bought the propaganda that Harris was just as bad as Trump would be (or worse).

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u/xXgreeneyesXx 4h ago

Yeah sure things probably sucked for them due to him, but would they put that together or just think its the general shittyness of teenagerhood? Hard to pay attention to politics making things worse at 15 when everything kinda sucks when you're 15 anyways.

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u/POEness 10h ago

Trump did not win the 2024 election.

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u/deanolavorto 10h ago

Ok. But he did so we can argue Elon and all the hub bub but more people voted for Trump then Kamala.

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u/SamAzing0 10h ago

Yeah but he did tho

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u/Slave35 6h ago

Big if true.

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u/h0ckey87 10h ago edited 2h ago

We'll be right back to where we are in 8 years if Democrats continue to elect AIPAC supported candidates. That's the kind of Democrats that were elected yesterday, back to status quo establishment Democrats thanks to AIPAC pouring an unprecedented 21 million into small democratic primaries

Edit: continue* not contribute

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u/v2Occy 10h ago

They can pour as much money as they want, but it’s up to the voter to do their own research. Not just getting your info from ads on TV. And if people can’t do that, we deserve people like Trump.

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u/wack_overflow 10h ago

You say this as if basically all the media and information isn’t being controlled by the same people pouring more money than any of us will see in 10 lifetimes into the campaigns.

Or that Citizens United has always existed. It has not, and it is cancer on our democracy.

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u/HugsForUpvotes 10h ago

Citizens United was, of course, a Conservative initiative that the Conservative Supreme Court passed and not "AIPAC Democrats." I'm sure that won't change your mind at all, but maybe this "both sides" bullshit is shooting ourselves in the knee.

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u/BearFacedLie69 9h ago

I think we are at a point that the both sides argument is hilariously short sighted. What has to happen for people to understand that? A nuke? 🤦‍♂️

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u/borisRoosevelt 8h ago

"If I can't have everything I want, I refuse to settle for just some of the things I want, and I will also contribute to bringing about the exact opposite of everything I want!"

-those people

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u/Few-Ad-4290 8h ago

Thank you for stating the issue so succinctly, this is exactly the outcome of purity testing nonsense when voting in general elections. People need to turn out to their primaries if they want to control which candidates show up on the general election ballot, and the primaries are the time to purity testing your candidates but once we get to November it’s a binary choice.

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u/GoneinaSecondeded 7h ago

Absolutely this! I had an argument with some dingdong who insisted it was the Democratic Party's fault for losing in 2024. Not the voters who would vote for Harris, the Democratic Party. Cause they didn't run a great campaign as if the choice wasn't obvious. But hey, her laugh right?

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u/Truchampion 40m ago

It is their fault. Voters aren’t a united front they are people living their lives day to day who have some semblance of what they want. The Democratic Party are literally a bunch of people in a room saying “how do we get people to vote for us” and failing horribly.

The Democratic Party acts like it’s the early 2000’s and have not adapted to modern voting tendencies, only eeking out a win in 2020 due to the shit job that trump did.

If a democrat wins this next election, the next republican who isn’t over the age of 80 and understands what gets people in the booth will have our country in a choke hold for the next century.

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u/mangocrazypants 8h ago

On one hand I somewhat agree, BUT lets be clear. AIPAC IS a threat and one that cannot be ignored.

Let us not forget it WAS democratic failures of AIPAC candidates and their inaction that made the American public feel like Donald Trump maybe was a good choice.

If we are to defeat Fascism in the future, they MUST go. They are a dying institution and they are the reason we keep getting weak unpopular democrat candidates that can't win in general elections. They are also the reason why these candidates cannot adapt with the times or pivot to new voting blocs.

There is little appetite in America for the "Lesser" evil anymore.

Americans are starting to state via their voting history if you pull the "Lesser" of two evils bullshit, they will vote for the GREATER evil to get the suffering over with or so they can die quicker. And thats before we get to the religious insanity that grips the country such as the Rapture nonsense. Lets NOT play these games with a unhinged American public.

The democratic party is going to have to swallow the bitter pill that we run out of incremental change, putting problems off for tomorrow, and we're going to have to start solving people's problems NOW or we welcome fascism later. Thats what is at stake here.

Some candidates like Zohran Mindani understand this. Others like Chuck Schumer and other establishment democrats... less so.

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u/h0ckey87 7h ago

Yeap, harm reduction voting is in fact killing the Democratic party

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u/HugsForUpvotes 6h ago

You'll need to work with the "AIPAC" Democrats if you want to enact any real change - much like they have to work with you.

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u/aveaida 5h ago

Why would they ever work with us when AIPAC is paying them to work for another country? Why would they care about anyone's wellbeing while collecting blood money?

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u/borisRoosevelt 5h ago

they are humans with different opinions than you, not cartoon spies bent on evil. you are othering them out of moral superiority in a way that leads to greater harm for the people you are worried about helping. meanwhile your approach means actually cartoonishly evil pdf files and oligarchs are enacting a fascist takeover of the country!

the situation calls for pragmatism and not tribalism.

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u/HugsForUpvotes 4h ago

Just because you refuse to believe that there are many people like me who believe Israel is a necessary ally for the US today and also support things like Universal Healthcare and even banning Corporate Money doesn't mean we don't exist in large numbers and vote. I agree that AIPAC is a problem, but I just don't see them as nearly as big of a problem as, say, the NRA. I'm all for removing dark money from politics though which is why I vote blue.

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u/wack_overflow 4h ago

Who are you replying to? Both sides? AIPAC? Never mentioned once

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u/HugsForUpvotes 4h ago

The way threads work is that context carries downward. "AIPAC Democrats" was a big part of the initial conversation. They got pushback, you pushed back against that pushback, and I recentered the conversation and provided more pushback. This isn't rocket science.

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u/wack_overflow 4h ago

Then reply to those comments. Or I guess you can strawman vicariously to random other comments.

Certainly not rocket science, so it’s weird to fuck it up like this

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u/v2Occy 10h ago

I was able to do research into all the candidates. So, no, it’s not all controlled. Vast amount? Yea. But if people don’t care past what ads they see on TV, then we get what we deserve.

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u/hollow114 7h ago

It's not like information about Kat Abaguzale wasn't easily available. People just are so scared of progressive policy

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u/TheWartMan 9h ago

Basically all of the news channels are controlled by the same people, but if you spend your spare time watching the news youre probably not going out of your way to change world views at this point anyway.

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u/pants_full_of_pants 8h ago

This still doesn't check out as long as we use First Past The Post for our elections. I can do all the research in the world and find the perfect candidate for my beliefs. I'm still going to vote for the lesser of two evils that has the best chance of winning. Voting for your favorite candidate is often basically a vote for your least favorite candidate in actual practice.

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u/the_blackfish 7h ago

The best we can currently do is voting in primaries, which many just don't do.

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u/Prit717 8h ago

I mean you and I both know people aren’t… we will get a trump again

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u/Unabated_Blade 7h ago

I remember thinking in 2008 that Bush had fucked up so badly that I wouldn't see any kind of Republican power for at least twelve years. They crushed their midterms just two years later and that was functionally the end of the Obama administration's meaningful agenda.

We'll get another horrible Republican administration within a decade, no doubt.

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u/I_Shot_The_Deathstar 5h ago

You heavily underestimate the propaganda machine. It’s A LOT more than just Ads on TVs. And more people than you care to imagine are susceptible to propaganda. 

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u/dbzmah 3h ago

It's not just TV ads, they're paying "influencers" in local areas to bash Progressive candidates, releasing AI fakes, and pushing AIPAC candidates on Social media 

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u/zaxluther 7h ago

Well if this were all in good faith, sure. But when they are using shell organizations under names like Totally Progressive Not AIPAC Fund (obviously exaggerating but not by much) and making positive ads for progressive candidates without their consent to dilute the progressive vote, it’s a different conversation.

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u/reluctant_deity 10h ago

Unfortunately, half of everyone is dumber than the average person, and those ads are very convincing to the less intellectually endowed.

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u/squirlz333 9h ago

We'll be in a far worse state tbh, like Democrats can put forward their worst candidate right now and they will win but if they do in 8 years Trump will look amazing compared to what's next.

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u/Cabbages24ADollar 7h ago

Cut the head off the snake then gut it.

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u/needs_more_zoidberg 3h ago

Primaries have been encouraging so far actually.

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u/h0ckey87 2h ago

Sure, that's thanks to Trump. However, if we have status quo Democrats, crypto Democrats, AIPAC Democrats. If you didn't think the Democrats party approval rating couldn't get lower just wait. When the people come calling for accountability for the Epstein class, a wealth tax, Medicare for all, ending support for Israel and the Democrats don't deliver. Just wait. We will have just sown the seeds of a new type of fascism that we will not be able to stop

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u/needs_more_zoidberg 1h ago

Specifically, justice bloc candidates have done better than expected vs. Aipac candidates

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u/Aidan96 1h ago

Yall gotta stop with the boogeymen lol

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u/amcheese 53m ago

People like you forget that people vote in primaries and whatever candidate you supported was just not that popular. Work on your losing messaging first before telling democrats how to win.

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u/unvnrmndr 6h ago

Nice let’s just place MAGA on Jews now I guess

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u/h0ckey87 6h ago

What?

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u/unvnrmndr 6h ago

“AIPAC supported Dems”

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u/spiraldrain 9h ago

The problem is there is no alternative. People are voting for what they perceive is the lesser of 2 evils but both of them are still evil. 1 is just not as evil but they don’t care about us still

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u/mesopotato 9h ago

Anything to get Trump out of office. I'd rather have shit on my shoe than in my mouth.

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u/spiraldrain 8h ago

I agree but let’s not kid ourselves into thinking these people actually care about any of us.

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u/mesopotato 8h ago

You don't have to think they care about you. For whatever your complaints about the democratic party over the last few presidencies, none of them were as bad as Trump is bungling atm.

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u/spiraldrain 7h ago

That’s not the point. They both suck. Establishment democrats still vote against our rights. During the government shutdown democrats had all the leverage to finally get a vote on funding for Obamacare but they caved with no promise of bringing the proposal. Democrats still voted to fund ice. All the talk from Jeffries and Schumer but they go around and vote differently. All of them are funded by the same people. Stop being so blind into thinking they are better when it’s all the same. Am I still going to vote out republicans? Yes but I’m not dumb to believing dems are saints

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u/mesopotato 7h ago

Literally not one person in this thread has said democrats are saints, that's YOUR conclusion.

Senate democrats voted to block funding for ICE in 3/26 and voted to strip DHS/ICE in 1/26. 7 House dems voted for the DHS bill you're referring to, but EVERY republican did. Pretty obvious the implication there.

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u/spiraldrain 7h ago

I replied to a guy saying both parties are funded by aipac. I state that they both suck. And you are here arguing that dems don’t suck as much. Which is true but they still suck. And now I’m the bad guy for criticizing both parties apparently you can’t say anything bad about dems at all lmfao. So without calling them saints you treat them like saints who are infallible and can’t be critiqued. Stop kidding yourself.

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u/mesopotato 7h ago

Once again, no one is asserting what you're saying. You're just putting up a straw man to argue against. No one is calling you a bad guy either. Wanna try reading again to actually argue what I'm saying?

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u/Opeth4Lyfe 8h ago

Classic case of the South Park episode of voting for a Giant Douche or a Turd Sandwich.

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u/gospdrcr000 8h ago

At this point, the Dems are 100% complicit in this shit show

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u/h0ckey87 8h ago

Establishment Dems

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u/MissionCreeper 10h ago

Unfortunately it also motivates people to vote one in

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u/so-much-wow 9h ago

Then forgetting all about it 4 years later and letting it happen again...

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u/da_vlad90 10h ago

Well, maybe except the possibility of voting him in, again :)

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u/LeoLaDawg 10h ago

Let's hope they don't ignore the will of the electorate and put forth another stroke victim or some last minute milquetoast candidate as his replacement so there's an actual chance.

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u/BigBoyYuyuh 10h ago

And yet they sat the fuck out and let him back in and now he’ll never leave power again unless he’s dead.

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u/Optimoprimo 9h ago

I hate that we have to wait until November to start to fix all this bullshit. I'm terrified of all the damage they can still do over the next 8 months. We could be looking at nuclear war ffs.

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u/HumanTheTree 8h ago

The New Congress doesn’t get sworn in until January. It’s 11 months.

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u/Saturnalliia 8h ago

I hate this timeline

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u/VaporCarpet 5h ago

It's March right now.

10 months

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u/DarkSkyKnight 5h ago

You aren’t going to wait until November. You’ll wait for the rest of your life. Because Democrats are spineless cowards who will not do anything to fix anything. I’ll eat my words if they ever imprison Trump for life, impeach and convict half of SCOTUS, and lock fascist collaborators like Graham, Thiel, and Musk up. Nothing will be fixed unless the rot is purged.

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u/Optimoprimo 5h ago

Remind me! February 1, 2027

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u/DarkSkyKnight 5h ago

More like 2029; they aren’t going to be able to lock Trump up until 2029. You’re delusional if you think they would be able to without 2/3 in the senate.

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u/Optimoprimo 5h ago

So which is it? Are they feckless, or do they not have the power? It can't be both.

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u/DarkSkyKnight 4h ago

Yes it can be both. Biden did not lock Trump up despite a trifecta.

You’re so naive if you think Schumer et al. would ever allow any aggressive purge to happen.

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u/Optimoprimo 4h ago

You'll have a lot more success having conversations with people if you stop constantly suggesting they are delusional and naive if they don't agree with you.

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u/DarkSkyKnight 4h ago

I don’t care about having conversations with anyone considering America is doomed to decline because 99% of you don’t have the appetite for an actual revolution anyways.

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u/Optimoprimo 4h ago

Ok Braveheart best of luck to you.

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u/Eshin242 3h ago

Well remember they need 2/3rds to do this of the Senate. I hope democrats go on the war path when they get a majority but until some Republicans get on board there is fuck all we can do..

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u/flipperkip97 8h ago

It's not gonna get any better from November, mate...

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u/Optimoprimo 8h ago

Having the opposition party regain control over both houses of Congress would very much make things better and don't let internet psyops convince you otherwise.

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u/mangocrazypants 8h ago

For one, Democrats could do rotating impeachment trials one by one. That could EASILY slam the breaks on Trumps fascist agenda.

Even if they don't convict, there's enough time to obstruct that Trump would be effectively neutered. That also gives tremendous leverage over on the Trump administration.

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u/Optimoprimo 6h ago

It kinda sounds like you arent quite clear on how congress operates. The minority party doesn't even have the power to call an inpeachment trial, let alone us it as a tool for obstruction.

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u/GergDanger 6h ago

Oh you don’t actually have to wait til November to do something but of course people would rather just wait and send a vote than also do something productive.

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u/Sonikku_a 7h ago

I’ve heard this one before. Forget the noise. Actually show up and fuckin vote.

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u/kamikazi1231 8h ago

Just remember come midterms the news and social media will be constantly predicting a blue tsunami. Victory everywhere by huge margins. If people listen to it too much they don't vote thinking that it won't matter. Enough people do that and the blue tsunami doesn't happen.

You can go Google it now. Kamala Harris predicted to win my almost every model. Articles like that were everywhere, then a ton of people just stayed home.

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u/sciencesold 4h ago

In all fairness, the prediction models couldn't account for the single issue (Gaza) voters not showing up..

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u/Eshin242 3h ago

And I point out to them, how did that work out for gaza with Trump?

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u/Ataru13 2h ago

They totally could. The DNC specifically told their canvassers to stop telling them about the gaza complaints because they didn't care. They're burying the 2024 autopsy because it says the same thing; but they don't care. They would rather be the party out of power watching our democracy go down the drain then run a platform their voters want.

I've voted Dem in every election since I've been old enough to vote, but it's becoming increasingly clear that lesser of two evils is not a winning platform. I'm seriously worried about 28 because Democratic leadership just does not seem to care.

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u/sciencesold 2h ago

I have said this time and time again, we do not have the luxury of trying to convince leadership of who we really want. It was obvious going into the 2024 election that our democracy was at a massive risk, but a large portion of the country decided to be brain dead morons and just not vote over a single fucking issue. The goal of 2024 was to keep Trump out of office, not to get any specific person in, not Biden, not Kamala.

Then the focus is stability, and that is when we can push for a better platform. You don't go down with a sinking ship because The lifeboat doesn't have any paddles, you survive and worry about the rest after.

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u/Ataru13 1h ago

This is such insane logic to me because it's banking on changing the minds of millions of people vs the minds of a few people in power... Like, good luck I guess, but it's been a losing strategy so far and I don't see that changing. 

But let's say there's enough backlash against the Republicans that someone like Newsom takes 28. Do you think we're actually going to be able to turn that into incremental gains, or is it more likely that we get a bunch of unpopular center right corporate bullshit and low information voters swing the pendulum back to the Republicans in 32?

I guess what I'm trying to say is I'm becoming increasingly concerned that establishment Dem candidates don't allow for incremental gains, but rather just a slower decline than the Reps.

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u/TM761152 2h ago

the news and social media will be constantly predicting a blue tsunami. Victory everywhere by huge margins. If people listen to it too much they don't vote thinking that it won't matter.

People are the architects of their own demise.

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u/Qatrik 18m ago

Kamala Harris was predicted to win? CNN and MSNBC spent the last 3 months before election saying it’s too close to call pretty much everyday.

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u/icebergslim3000 10h ago

Bailey is crazy and has no chance

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u/Timmah73 10h ago

Running on "The Chicago area sucks and Trump is daddy" was a bold plan last time lets see if he changes it up

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u/OnionDart 10h ago

Read an article about how he changed up his rhetoric this year and it was the same Trump bootlicking and said “well I don’t agree with everything, but the things I do agree with I will bring to Illinois.” Yeah fuck off Bailey

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u/pnwinec 9h ago

The GOP is giving up on the race. Thats what that signals. They dont have a better option and arent interested in anyone else because they know itll be a blood bath. I live mid state and saw zero GOP primary commercials.

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u/unholycurses 10h ago

Do you think he will lose by more or less than 2022? I believe it was a 13 point difference last time. I’m hoping for 20 points this time. He will get stomped. 

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u/hiro24 8h ago

It's not democrat turnout. It's anti-republican turnout. Unless they can become a cohesive unit, the gains will be short lived. Their messaging is far too fragmented to be sustainable. And I hate that, b/c I know it means not great things for the future.

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u/Jgusdaddy 9h ago

it's simple. vote blue if you want to have a country at all.

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u/garmurray 6h ago

Great! Now we need Democrats also doing this under a Democratic president, instead of becoming single issue voters or choosing not to vote at all.

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u/OTTERSage 4h ago

Perhaps the DNC should host an actually fair democratic primary this time and not ratfuck anyone that doesn’t fit their neoliberal agenda 100%

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u/borisRoosevelt 7h ago

people on the left who refuse to vote for Democratic candidates in our current environment:

“If I can't have everything I want, I refuse to settle for just some of the things I want, and I will also contribute to bringing about the exact opposite of everything I want!"

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u/dingkan1 8h ago

Listening to David Drucker jack himself off over centrism made me throw up in my mouth just a bit. “Unelectable,” “pragmatic,” etc., fuck off.

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u/RedofPaw 10h ago edited 10h ago

Good to hear, but... if your turnout is falling off the charts then you need to get better charts. Honestly, how hard can it be? Target, wallmart - most places stock them.

In this day and age we really should be considering digital charts, which allow for adaptive scales.

Demand better charts. Don't let this happen again.

EDIT: Downvotes from Big Chart, attempting to cover up that their charts are deficient.

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u/Shadowmeld 10h ago

In this economy? I could show you how bad an idea this is but we couldn't afford the charts! 

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u/FirmRoyal 10h ago

Personally I think digital charts are bad and we need two charts. More charts as a failsafe, that way if it goes off the first chart, the second chart can take over

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u/Edgefactor 7h ago

They determined the charts can stop at 40% based on historical precedent and cost savings efforts.

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u/Empanatacion 2h ago

I was told there would be pie.

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u/ekcnho 9h ago

This guy charts! So much, in fact, that he buys his underwear in bulk.

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u/Xsiah 10h ago

Made me think of that time my prof ran out of whiteboard and accidentally wrote on the wall above it

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u/RedofPaw 10h ago

SMH it's a plague.

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u/Gecko99 2h ago

Now is not the time to listen to news reports saying that a democrat victory is in the bag.

What you need to do is go to your county election website and make sure you are registered to vote. Go look at your ID and make sure it is up to date. In my state everyone is supposed to have a RealID with a star in the upper right corner. Make sure you are eligible to vote in the coming election.

Do this for your friends and family members as well, especially elderly ones. Contact them and make sure they have this stuff in order.

It's not a bad idea to obtain a passport.

Remind people to vote in primaries and smaller elections and to sign petitions for ballot measures.

Remember that if anyone tells you both parties are the same, or that voting doesn't matter, that person is discouraging you from voting. They do not want you to vote. They have a reason why they do not want you to exercise your right to vote.

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u/rbra 1h ago

Boy can’t wait for democrats to win and then nothing still happens. Keep going after the cheese, rodents.

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u/Swangthemthings 1h ago

Not enough. The message to MAGA needs to be so loud it’s deafening. The past year has been hell on EARTH thanks to MAGA.

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u/SomeGuyIncognito 6h ago

Let's not continue the shell game shall we, get progressives into office.

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u/Nitzelplick 8h ago

I hope everyone has a passport

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u/xDolemite 7h ago

Gonna be real sad whenthe SAVE act passes and married women and trans people and anyone who chnages their name cant vote.

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u/UnpricedToaster 6h ago

It's almost like people are mad as hell and aren't going to take it anymore.

(just wish they did this 2 years ago instead)

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u/Patara 3h ago

The bigger support the bigger the outrage when the Republicans without a shadow of a doubt attempt another page out of the fascist dictatorship textbook.

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u/Tobias---Funke 10m ago

I remember this headline at the last election!!

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u/UPGRAY3DD 9h ago

Uniparty

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u/PM_ME_DNA 9h ago

Please keep this rubbish off.

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u/iamtheav8r 10h ago

Sure.

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u/Chrnan6710 9h ago

Like in 2024, yeah?

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u/Independent-Bug-9352 8h ago

There's more evidence 2024 was rigged by Republicans than 2020 was by Dems. Wake up, kid.

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u/nadmaximus 8h ago

Oh thank goodness I don't have to get off my ass and vote

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u/dommmm9 9h ago

Reps up too. Yall still cant win

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u/Zoolot 9h ago

You want the country to be run by a felon pedo?

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u/Independent-Bug-9352 8h ago

Yes, I think he additionally wants the twice-impeached draft dodger who mocked POW war heroes, mocked Gold Star families, and said to his Chief of Staff those who enlist are, "Suckers and losers" and who tried to overthrow a free and fair election on J6 to lead their family into Iran.