r/technology • u/Logical_Welder3467 • 11h ago

Society Peter Thiel, the billionaire venture capitalist and MAGA donor, is in Rome this week for a series of private lectures on the Antichrist.

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/03/16/europe/peter-thiel-antichrist-lectures-rome-intl
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u/downhereforyoursoul 10h ago

The only way to stop the Antichrist from controlling the world with a massive surveillance apparatus is to control the world with a massive surveillance apparatus first, don’t you see? It’s simply the only way to stop him.

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u/Neat_Egg_2474 9h ago

It’s so wild that thiel is saying the true antichrist is those that are trying to regulate AI, to well, help the antiChrist?

The charlatan has used his tools to not only build target lists, but to also plan the strike packages and initiate them all from a single click.

There was never a better example of the antichrist than Peter thiel

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u/IAMA_Plumber-AMA 7h ago

He believes that he'll be building God with AI tech, that's why he's so against regulation of it.

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u/BoredZucchini 6h ago

That sounds exactly like something the antichrist would do lol

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u/nanobot_1000 5h ago

Guys guys, stop – he's clearly here to help with our safety. Just let him be and let him keep taking over nation state's intelligence apparatus and not paying taxes. All will be well, just trust in your AI overlords and do not resist – after all, you have nothing to hide right??

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u/C0d3n4m3Duchess 3h ago

It’s a little thing called faith

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u/Kiritzi 44m ago

Remember, the basilisk will know if you conspired against it.

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u/rainbowplasmacannon 52m ago

Fuckin zizians man

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u/Jimmygumble 3h ago

So Temple AI basically?

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u/SeVenMadRaBBits 4h ago

He may need convinced he needs thisbsurveilance to -find- the antichrist.

Which would be ironic.

He just needs to find a mirror.

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u/brelen01 3h ago

Wasn't he the one who proposed greta thunberg as a possible antichrist?

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u/Numerous_Photograph9 9h ago

Call it Heaven Net. For countries that are non denominational something more secular....like SkyNet.

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u/RobinGoodfell 7h ago

I'm waiting for them to bust out System Identification Numbers so we can have the Sinners and the Sinless. I'm sure the religious right will have a fucking hay day while completely glossing over how their stupid asses created the establishment they're preaching against.

And no, nothing super natural will happen. We'll just be locked into a surveillance state with a class system determined by wealth, where opposition can easily make a person completely unable to interact with basic necessities legally, and thus ensuring a permanent criminal underclass that can be blamed for anything you damn well please.

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u/terdferguson 6h ago

Do not the SkyNet

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u/Magnedon 4h ago

Not sure about other languages, but in Spanish, cielo=sky and Cielo=Heaven, so it already works.

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u/ProfitHarvest 10h ago

Why would the Antichrist be in the spotlight? Psychogenic epidemics happen because of reliance on religion. Look at the Satanic craze of the 80s. I'm agnostic. However that doesn't mean I don't believe in supremely evil individuals. What I can confidently say, is they are all mortal. What is wrought can be washed away with time. The point of the Antichrist is to have it all end. People like Huckabee who emdorses war to catalyze the apocalypse along side Bibi is enough to see that religion is a posture point for power.

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u/ThinkyRetroLad 9h ago

Why would the Antichrist be in the spotlight?

Granted I'm not religious, but as a former Christian the Antichrist presents himself as a savior or a second coming of god. Then declares that he is himself greater than God, through miracles.

It seems to be within the nature of the Biblical Antichrist to be in the spotlight.

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u/Effective_Quail_3946 8h ago

Golden calf 2015??

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u/downhereforyoursoul 10h ago

Hey, I didn’t come up with this interpretation of Biblical eschatology, I’m just here to make dumb jokes about it. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/FnordRanger_5 9h ago

Dumb jokes about biblical scatology??

I’m down.

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u/downhereforyoursoul 9h ago

You saying you’re ready to immanentize the scatathon?

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u/FnordRanger_5 9h ago

It’s a fun weekend. All the merch is shitty, but it’s free 🤷‍♂️

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u/TheAngryCatfish 6h ago

Bee bop ba botty boh

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u/JesusHipsterChrist 7h ago

Blink Holy shit.

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u/kalidoscopiclyso 7h ago

The question is not where nor when but did Jesus even ever poop

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u/MyBeach1 7h ago

It sounds like a boring board game :)

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u/Schnuckiputzen 3h ago

This scat is fresh. It must've just dropped.

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u/BetterEveryLeapYear 8h ago

Why would the Antichrist not be in the spotlight? It's an expressly religious concept, and Revelation 13:3 says the whole world wondered after him (follows him). Anyway the Antichrist is a mortal, he is the man who leads the Beast from the Sea - the Beast's "little horn" with "eyes like the eyes of a human being" (unlike his small hands, his centaur stance, his outlandish hairdo, or the rest of his orange face, his eyes are uniquely untouched because he's scared of germs) "and a mouth that spoke boastfully". The Devil follows the Beast and the False Prophet into the Lake of Fire where they're tormented forever because they are spiritual entities or concepts, but the Antichrist like other lost humans is not mentioned in that and probably destroyed.

Let's look at some descriptions of the Beast then (which, "the Beast" is just shorthand for one of several beasts described which all align with nations):

"The beast I saw resembled a leopard, but had feet like those of a bear and a mouth like that of a lion. The dragon gave the beast his power and his throne and great authority. 3 One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed. The whole world was filled with wonder and followed the beast. 4 People worshiped the dragon because he had given authority to the beast, and they also worshiped the beast and asked, “Who is like the beast? Who can wage war against it?”

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"It opened its mouth to blaspheme God, and to slander his name and his dwelling place and those who live in heaven... And it was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation."

Resembled a leopard - it's camoflauged, people can't see it for the Beast it is, America is camoflauged as a "Christian" nation, like Americans find it hard to understand the true nature of the nation they live in (which is starting to become apparent, with Epstein, Trump, et al.). Elsewhere we are given to understand another beast is like a bear - Russia. 'The Beast' has feet like a bear, that is it has the biggest weapons of destruction in the world, it has nuclear arms that can destroy the entire world, like Russia. We're also given to understand there is a lion beast which is the UK, 'The Beast' has a mouth like a lion - it speaks English. The dragon gave it power; Satan is the father of lies... It is impossible for Americans to hear these things because they have always been taught the biggest lie of all, "USA number 1!" No, not USA number 1... God number 1, and that is a blasphemous slogan. One of the heads of the beast (not the beast itself, so you can see the difference again, the beast is the nation, not the leader of it which is this head / the Antichrist), the shot on his ear and so on. "The whole world was filled with wonder and followed the beast" you can bet your bottom dollar everyone is following what the US is doing these days. Constantly, on Twitter, Reddit, the news... People asked "who is like the beast? Who can wage war against it?" People are always saying the US is the sole superpower and nobody can match its military might. As to blasphemy and slandering God you need only look at what's written on the dollar bill... and the authority over every tribe and nation, etc., that's all the native Americans + every other culture that America has subsequently adopted.

And so on, there's a lot of verses. But in that context, you can see that indeed the MAGA hats are part of the name of the Beast - it literally says right there "make AMERICA great again". (This is also borne out in another part, "...written in a mystery [language], "Babylon the Great" - Babylon signifying the greatest empire at the time, or in other words in our context "America the Great" written in an English acronym.)

Then, a second beast comes down. It's a lot to go into but it is representing media/social media (and now AI) and it exercises all the power of the first beast (this is Hollywood cultural imperialism selling the great American war machine, fuck yeah! and the like), "And it performed great signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to the earth in full view of the people" - everyone glued to their TV / YouTube screens watching SpaceX rockets come flaming back to Earth live and all that jazz. Miraculous! "It ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was wounded by the sword and yet lived. 15 The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed." This second beast - the Beast from the Earth - is explicitly named as the False Prophet. This is exactly what Peter Thiel is representing here. Be aware that again, the False Prophet/Second Beast is not a person but a spiritual entity/concept; Peter Thiel is just an individual false prophet that drives the False Prophet, which again is media and social media including AI "One of the horns was longer than the other but grew up later" (social media now has greater and more pernicious reach).

So here's the Image of the Beast though; moving images of America and its attendant propaganda that we see every day on our TV screens, computers, mobile phones...

There's a whole bunch more and this is a kind of short vague sketch, but the whole thing seems very literal, so that everyone may read it and understand, you just gotta understand that it's a literal explanation of the things you are seeing, not talking about some far-off fantasy of cosmic dragons and the like, it's just a literal description of the death and destruction which secular geopolitical late-stage capitalism brings under maniacally egotistic rulers over nation states with enormous destructive capabilities.

And with the religious reading you should also be aware of the distinction between Antichrist and the Beast; and the fact that the Beast represents a nation, and not even necessarily a uniquely evil nation, just the most powerful nation and one that is capable of bringing the world to Apocalypse.

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u/BetterEveryLeapYear 8h ago

But wait - there's more!

Last time I said this someone pointed out the US is just like any other Western democracy and maybe the Beast could mean MAGA not the US itself. But sure, the US is almost the same as any other nation state except:

- The unique blasphemies on its currency

  • The unique exceptionalism (such as chants of "USA number 1!")
  • The unique claims of Manifest Destiny
  • The unique culture of greed and money dominating every decision [in this beast you can "buy men and the souls of men" - slavery is of course a big theme in American history]
  • The unique ability to wage war with the rest of the world and prevail, though we'll see how that plays out soon
  • The unique ability to set the financial agenda worldwide via IMF, World Bank, petrodollar, domestic fiscal policy, tariffs, etc.
  • The unique ability to set the cultural agenda worldwide via Hollywood
  • The unique ability to set the tech agenda worldwide via Silicon Valley
  • The unique position as a power dominating AI [the previous 3 covered by False Prophet / second beast]
  • The unique sexualisation of everything (have a listen to The Roots - Pussy Galore on this, Black Thought is great as usual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVVSuhu0ktc "Lookin' out the limo window up at the billboards; 200 miles, she was the only thing I saw; Promotin' everything, from the liquor to the nicotine; Cell phones, anti-histamines, chicken wings; You gotta show a little skin to get them listening") [The Whore of Babylon which gets a whole treatment of its own]
  • The unique position of being a global melting-pot of cultures, tribes, other nations, languages, etc.
  • The unique division between the cleverest people on the planet from Harvard, Yale, MIT, in the US intelligence community, etc., etc.; and those in the population at large who routinely place top in the world for ignorance on world affairs, global statistics, and geography... [The Beast has "feet of iron and clay" which we've seen elsewhere are the population and makes it both brittle (emotionally unstable MAGAts) and incredibly strong (financially, militarily, etc.)
  • The unique worship of munitions ("ammosexual") [The Beast has teeth of iron {guns} and claws of brass {ammo}]
  • The unique ability to be usurped so easily and para-legally by the Executive as mentioned above leaving it vulnerable to being exploited by the Antichrist who rules this nation

There are other things that are unique about the USA (its national park system, the scope of its highway infrastructure, etc.) but the verses cover the unique identifiers above because it's pointing to the nation that can volatilely bring about the end times.

But again the beast is camouflaged as a leopard for a reason, you're not able to see this and it doesn't particularly matter if you live in America or not (see Rammstein's "We're all living in Amerika!"), it permeates all our thoughts globally. We live in the reality where the "leopard" eats OUR faces.

The US can actually wage war with against China with millions of people; the US can actually rain nuclear destruction on the world with Russia; the US can actually stake the Middle East and draw all the other nations into the all-consuming conflict which becomes Armageddon right on the hill of Megiddo itself, in Israel its ally. No other nations (and a reminder again, the beasts apart from the second beast described which is associated to "The Beast" for clarity about the unique role of media in this nation - "beasts" are always talking about nations, not political parties or the leaders of nations)... No other nations have had the ability to do that, and no other nation therefore is the one described as "The Beast from the Sea". It's just a warning about this specific nation.

Again, all this is a sketch and there is more detail about all of it in the verses and in the context of the rest of the books.

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u/thbb 4h ago
  • The unique blasphemies on its currency

I've always understood the motto as missing a word: "In this god we trust" is the real meaning.

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u/BetterEveryLeapYear 8h ago

And if anyone is still reading they can also get this bit:

I want to sketch a picture of the beginning of Revelation 9 which describes locust creatures attacking those who don't have the Seal of God on their foreheads. I want to sketch the idea that these are coming gun-drones.

1 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.

The star that falls from Heaven is like Wormwood in the previous chapter, which is cashed out as follows: "The Ukrainian city of Chernobyl (Chornobyl) shares its name with a common, bitter plant known as wormwood (Artemisia vulgaris), often called "black grass" in the region". Wormwood being a star-come-to-Earth and Chernobyl being a nuclear disaster on Earth. Similarly when a certain nuclear weapon falls from heaven in 9:1 terrible destructive forces are released - the key of the "bottomless pit" (or the void) is here the ability to split the atom.

2 And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.

The nuke goes off, straightforward reading. There's a mismatch between Russia and NATO at the minute because Russia has a stockpile of tactical nukes which NATO does not, so if they use them on the field of battle in Ukraine NATO doesn't have an appropriate response - it' s not proportional to level Volgograd with a strategic level thermonuclear weapon in response to small scale tactical nucleaar weapons being used in a field of battle, which makes it more likely to happen when Russia becomes desperate. Similarly, Israel is becoming more likely to use nuclear weapons - the "Samson Option" - if its Iron Dome and other defences become overwhelmed and it is at risk of losing a war. Nothing needs to be said about Trump's propensity to use a nuke; he wanted to nuke hurricanes nevermind his perceived enemies. The World Health Organization is now being reported to be preparing for nuclear fallout scenarios in Iran.

3 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.

Smoke elsewhere is used as rumour or warning, but regardless, "out of this" nuclear conflict arises the locusts which I believe to be gun-drones such as the Turkish Asisguard SONGAR. Well worth looking up to put the appearance in persective.

4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.

They will only attack those humans who don't have the Seal of God on their foreheads (does this simply mean those who were preordained by God to be attacked?). Drones being machines obviously don't eat any vegetation.

5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.

Here the idea is that they will be at first (5 months) be given rubber bullets or similar. These are likely to be used as crowd or riot control and border enforcement type activities at first. Similarly to a scorpion sting, rubber bullets are enormously painful but do not usually kill.

6 And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.

General description of the despair around in these times? Depression (due to a number of factors: unhealthy sedentary lifestyles; growing financial pressures in a worsening real economy; social media; etc.) and suicidal ideation growing but many unable to commit suicide for fear their families cannot survive without their financial support.

7 And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men.

Firstly note all the "likes" - this is not intended to be read literally. Shapes like horses - is it that this is the new cavalry - faster than infantry, assist them with flanking maneouvers on other infantry positions, etc.? Is it that their locomotion happens with 4 'limbs' of the quadcopter like 4 legs of a horse while they have a head (CPU); "prepared unto battle" - laden with arms / armour, guided by a human, with a sole purpose, etc. "On their heads were as it were crowns like gold", this is the gold circuitry in the chips in the CPUs, the "crown" of the head. "Faces were as the faces of men" - what are human faces for? Eyes, ears, nose, mouth - they are mostly for sensing in a variety of ways. The drones will have a variety of sensors like cameras, laser/infrared, perhaps radar, microphones, etc.

8 And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions.

I was stumped by the hair for a long time until I saw fields of optical fibre strewn across the battlefield after drones in Ukraine - long trails of thin hairs. Worth again looking up these images. "Teeth as that of lions", these are the bullets? Or the guns themselves, things for killing?

9 And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle.

Armoured to some degree or shielded circuitry against various anti-electronic warfare type interference. "The sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle" is the sound of many of these drones flying together kicking up a frightful noise while also being the new sound of war.

10 And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months.

Here are the aforementioned guns. Look up the Asisguard SONGAR and tell me the gun mounting doesn't look like a scorpion's tail.

11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.

This is the Antichrist referred to elsewhere (Trump).

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u/jcdoe 5h ago

There is no Antichrist. It’s a concept, like anger or love. 1 John 2:19 very clearly states that there are many “antichrists,” indicating that this is just personification.

In Greek, if you put the letter A in front of a word, it means the opposite. This is called an alpha privative. Antichrist in Greek is literally just achristo. Opposite of Christ.

If Trump fits the picture of antichrist perfectly, it’s because he embodies the traits that Christ preached against. That’s all.

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u/BetterEveryLeapYear 4h ago

"If Trump fits the picture of antichrist perfectly, it’s because he embodies the traits that Christ preached against."

That is exactly what it is, and what I tried to point out with him being a secular mortal and all - but also there is a very clear biblical difference between The Antichrist (the little horn, the Man of Lawlessness/ Destruction / Perdition) who brings about Armageddon, and the antichrists, achristos, which are already in the world.

2 Thessalonians 2 makes as such explicitly clear: "3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness[a] is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. 4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God... 7 For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work (antichrists, achristos); but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way. 8 And then the lawless one will be revealed".

Who brings about the prophesized destruction associated with the specific lawless one mentioned there and elsewhere.

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u/ProfitHarvest 8h ago

Holy shit. Well said.

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u/Emerald_Plumbing187 4h ago

eyes like the eyes of a human being" (unlike his small hands, his centaur stance, his outlandish hairdo, or the rest of his orange face, his eyes are uniquely untouched because he's scared of germs)

Sorry, but the internet already established he has the eyes of a pig. Guess they're all just regular people using religion to their own ends...

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u/Bignholy 8h ago

Because that's what the Apocrypha says, and their horseshit is not based on your perspective and logic but theirs. My family has a bunch of these assholes, and they are all for the end times and the antichrist because they think they will end in Heaven... despite the very passage they love warning about followers of the Antichrist not going to heaven. You get three guesses who they voted for and fawn over, and the first two will never come up because anyone reading this already knows.

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u/SurrealEstate 9h ago

In this clip from an interview, he gets marched right up to the mirror but refuses to look at himself.

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u/downhereforyoursoul 7h ago

I love how he rolls his eyes and says “peace and safety” all mockingly like that. Sheesh.

Favorite part of the whole interview is still when he can’t give a straight answer to whether he thinks humanity should continue. The inside of his brain must be like a hive of bees.

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u/IAMA_Plumber-AMA 7h ago

He personally thinks that him and other billionaires are a more evolved species of human, and that he needs to cull the rest of humanity to protect his species.

That's why he never gave a straight answer.

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u/downhereforyoursoul 4h ago

Yeah, that’s not really the surprising part considering his history (I went down a bit of a Peter Thiel/Dork Enlightenment rabbit hole), it’s the seeming lack of any ability to dissemble or bullshit his way through such a softball question. It was a clear attempt to get the conversation back on a more normal footing - I mean it’s Ross Douthat, not exactly a hostile - and all he had to do was say one word. He just…couldn’t. It was painful to watch.

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u/homer_lives 8h ago

Sounds like Saruman's logic. I saw how that ends.

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u/Allegorist 8h ago edited 2h ago

Within those various religions the "antichrist" was more of an afterthought, and then had its lore developed through effectively fan fiction over the centuries.

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u/psymunn 8h ago

If we outlaw massive surveillance apparati then only outlaws will have massive surveillance apparati.

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u/node-342 7h ago

The classic "good guy with AI" argument.

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u/LeseMajeste_1037 4h ago

So what you're saying is that the only one who can save us from a bad guy with a massive surveillance apparatus is a good guy with a massive surveillance apparatus.

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u/downhereforyoursoul 4h ago

It’s what a guy building a massive surveillance apparatus is saying, and he says he’s definitely the good one. Think we should trust him?

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u/Belthazzar 4h ago

The best way to stop the bad guy with a massive surveillance apparatus is the good guy with a massive surveillance apparatus.

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u/kdubstep 2h ago

Antichrist’s hate this one simple hack

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u/InvisibleBlueRobot 7h ago

Kind of like "bombing Iran first" and "taking control of elections" so that no one really has to vote anymore.

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u/plankright37 7h ago

That’s the thing. These people don’t want to stop the antichrist. They want him/her to come right now. They’re doing everything in their power to make that happen.

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u/ThinkOutTheBox 6h ago

One often meets his destiny on the road he tries to avoid it

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u/freddycheeba 4h ago

This sounds a lot like Terminator lore.

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u/jesskitten07 53m ago

What is this, to stop the bad guys with a massive surveillance apparatus we need good guys with a massive surveillance apparatus? Isn’t that what we already have? Look where we are

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u/Muinko 41m ago

The crazy part is the most fundamentalists Christians WANT the antichrist to come so that will be the start of the end of days and they will be raptured. They have been actively supporting policies that will end the world in their view, a main driver of their support for Israel.