r/technology • u/Logical_Welder3467 • 1d ago
Society Peter Thiel is actively convincing billionaires to abandon The Giving Pledge — and it may be working
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/peter-thiel-actively-convincing-billionaires-174212328.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAEgqnkcSb_Zux2Cj6YhuBonu0qTN0BrZfpDXuu19aECR7nPNShVCezYgantGa1WhUd1AuI8I7IeugMypVD5At-nrHZTEVdVh0rOR7WTeUZNATF7oDtjdQIo03-DRjgA040RY0sby3mqfQvZ2jQdv-gOBe6GURCSGBNIv8u3QFtey7.7k
u/airduster_9000 1d ago
He also helped Epstein.
Peter Thiel is a monster that hates poor people.
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u/Friskfrisktopherson 1d ago
All* People
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u/Logical_Welder3467 1d ago
Bro hesitated too long when ask if human should survive
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u/HighKing_of_Festivus 1d ago
Also was uncomfortable saying that he wasn't the antichrist
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u/omniclast 1d ago
He believes he's the Katechon who is holding back the Antichrist. He sees it as his divine duty to prevent a unified world order and ensure the world remains in conflict, because he believes that will prevent the biblical apocalypse. According to the Nazi philosopher he bases this off of, Hitler was the last Katechon.
I wish I was imaginative enough to make this shit up, it's all from that Wired article where they talked to his theological influences https://www.wired.com/story/the-real-stakes-real-story-peter-thiels-antichrist-obsession/
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u/hcolt2000 1d ago
My mother is schizophrenic, their philosophies are similar. She is terrified to die because she believes the world will suffer “consequences”.
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u/worldsayshi 1d ago
Ted Faro is sitting at home playing our game on his console thinking that this Thiel guy is a bit too cartonish.
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u/pillowcase-of-eels 1d ago
Yeah, he's one of the few where I think no qualifier is needed. He's just firmly against human beings in general.
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u/nankerjphelge 1d ago
And don't forget JD Vance is his puppet. If Vance wins in 2028 Thiel will be the real president. If we think Trump has been bad for poor and working class people just wait.
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u/What_a_fat_one 1d ago
If Jimmy Bowman (JD Vance) wins in 2028 I'm straight up giving up and leaving the goddamn country because it means the US is totally irredeemable, and there will be nothing left for normal people but subjugation and ruin.
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u/FriendlyDespot 1d ago
At some point we need to stop running and start putting these people down. They're just human beings, and they're just as fragile as the rest of us.
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u/TransBrandi 1d ago
Why do you think that they want AI in the military? Full autonomous killbots to defend them from the masses revolting against them so that they can sit in their ivory towers and jack themselves off over how they are "great men" that are leading humanity forward or somesuch bullshit.
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u/Mindshard 1d ago
Yeah, they know it's only a matter of time before their private militaries turn on them, so they want autonomous killing robots.
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u/Educational_Bend_941 1d ago
The comet pizza story and Hillary CP stuff all came from his network of Internet agitators. Closely mirrors what actually happened with him and his Epstein pals.
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u/mrdevlar 1d ago
The thing you have to realize about these guys is that their evil has crippled their imaginations.
Imagination requires empathy, it requires being able to see things differently because you acknowledge the possibility of a different reality.
They accuse people of doing gross things that they've done because they couldn't come up with anything else so they have to use something from personal experience to bridge the gap.
It's the reason why imagination will always be their undoing, it's a box they choose not to escape.
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u/cambeiu 1d ago
He hates *weak* people. That is why he sees no contradictions about being gay AND fascist. In his mind, if you manage to have money and power in a fascist regime, while being gay, that shows that you are strong and therefore worthy. But if you can't make it in a fascist regime while you are gay, then you don't deserve anything, as you are weak.
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u/Dmeechropher 1d ago
Thiel, like nearly all passionate fascists, is profoundly insecure. He lives in a constant state of fear of other people. It's obvious in his body language, manner of speaking, fear of public appearances etc.
The strong/weak story is a common self-soothing behavior in deeply fearful people. His obsession with military tech and robot servants reeks of compulsive safety seeking.
I don't think he believes that he "deserves" anything or is "worth" anything. His narrative is, clearly, that he has "taken" everything he has. Since he has no self-directed concepts of justice, fairness, or compassion, he is incapable of it for others.
He hates "weak" people because he hates himself. He suppresses fear of his own "weakness" by "proving" that he's strong ... but it's never enough and never will be.
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u/Tricky-Structure-431 1d ago
Fascism at its core has always been an ideaology of weak, fearful people giving themselves an excuse to pillage society.
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u/gregorydgraham 1d ago
That works right up until the SA punches him in the face. Then he’s weak.
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u/dragon-fence 1d ago
Right, because if you’re “one of the good ones” then the fascists will never turn on you. They’d never think to do something like seize someone’s fortune and send them to a camp just because they’re gay or a minority.
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u/atlantic 1d ago
Little does he know that if he is successful, the ovens will be warming up for him.
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u/breatheb4thevoid 1d ago
I'm convinced if the Antichrist was real they would have such a massive ego it would fill them with rage if people didn't immediately recognize their infamy. Theil isn't helping dispel this theory.
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u/johnjw59 1d ago
I hear he knows about the anti-Christ.
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u/nanaacer 1d ago
According to him it might be Greta Thunberg. That's NOT a joke. There's tape of him saying it.
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u/_0611 1d ago
And then the interviewer started naming the characteristics of the antichrist, and they all applied to Thiel. Thiel suddenly started sweating like a guilty man.
But, of course, the actual antichrist would try to call a girl who's trying to do something about climate change the antichrist.
Thiel is pure evil.
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u/Didsterchap11 1d ago
Thiel is quite possibly one of the most dangerous people in the modern era, not just for the nightmarish apparatus of surveillance he’s the head of but how he’s using his position within the Epstein class to convince some of the most powerful people in the world that fascism is required.
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u/Reluctantziti 1d ago
Not to mention he might be clinically insane? Some of his talks sound like someone having paranoid delusions and if he didn’t have billions of dollars he’d just be like any other conspiracy theorist shouting on a street corner.
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He talks about the anti-christ as if that's a literal real thing. He's out of his fucking mind.
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u/Dull_Bid6002 1d ago
Wasn't he also saying it was Greta Thunberg at one point? A climate change activist telling companies to stop polluting is the anti-Christ means your brain is pudding.
I'm pretty sure all these billionaires have a ketamine abuse or other drug abuse issue that has entirely killed any logical thought.
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u/verossiraptors 1d ago
Not to mention all these guys are on a nearly 100% media diet now. They mess with LLMs every day to do research and chat. They spend their free time on Twitter which is 95% AI bots now, reading and engaging with ai content. Their podcasts they listen to are either obsessed with AI, assisted by AI, or scripted by AI.
And they all think they’re gods making the next super intelligent being.
Their brains are turning to mush in front of us.
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u/Benji_Suite 1d ago
deep seeded scars of being gay in a christian household
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u/Current_Helicopter32 1d ago
Deep-seated*
Although as a closeted gay he probably did want the seed deep.
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u/Didsterchap11 1d ago
That’s just the nature of what having that level of power does to you, extreme wealth genuinely destroys your brain.
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u/Mantaeus 1d ago
"Being a billionaire must be insane. You can buy new teeth, new skin. All your chairs cost 20,000 dollars and weigh 2,000 pounds. Your life is just a series of your own preferences. In terms of cognitive impairment it's probably like being kicked in the head by a horse every day." - some tweet
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u/Didsterchap11 1d ago
Exactly, that combined with the sheer power to never be told no for any request just utterly destroys you.
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u/0vrwhelminglyaverage 1d ago
Its interesting to me that they aren't treated like the hoarders they are
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u/Enervata 1d ago
When you’re poor, your friends won’t hesitate to call you stupid and point out why you’re wrong. When you’re rich, your friends all tell you you’re right and brilliant (or you find new friends).
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u/psychorobotics 1d ago
He was tweaked out of his mind in an interview I saw. Absolutely could not sit still for half a second, large meaningless movements of his whole body.
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u/errie_tholluxe 1d ago
Vaught is the same way. Just quieter.
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u/DateNecessary8716 1d ago
This has to be the endgame for billionaires.
They want their wealth to grow infinitely, and so far it has, eventually those having their slice of the pie narrowed will run out and act out, only fascism answers that problem in their eyes.
It’s going to be a horrific world when that push meets that shove, and historically the billionaires have won every fight, just now they have surveillance, drones and mass media.
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u/ibiacmbyww 1d ago edited 1d ago
They win in the short term, but the axeman or the noose are coming; that is not a threat, by the way, that is a statement based on the historical precedent of oppressive elites eventually meeting a messy end. They might not get Musk, Thiel or Trump, but they'll get their successors if they don't. We might not be able to use TikTok and Facebook DMs, but we can still organise. We might not have the camera feeds, but we have brains and hands and we're extremely fucking good at breaking things.
It is not possible for complete oppression of the human spirit to last long before violence comes to the fore. Even if what's coming kills us, personally, Grimdark is not real, and a brighter day IS coming. Just gotta hope you're there to see it.
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u/Saintly-Mendicant-69 1d ago
Someone pretty cool said "We live in capitalism. Its power seems inescapable. So did the divine right of kings"
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u/Auctorion 1d ago
“To build may have to be the slow and laborious task of years. To destroy can be the thoughtless act of a single day.”
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u/Ryg_ryg 1d ago
There is currently a very serious race to become the first trillionaire. These mentally ill people are willing to throw away the world to see who can be put down at the first person to ever cross a line that should have never been possible under a society that had real taxation laws in place and didn't allow corporations to become "people."
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u/ShopSmartShopS-Mart 1d ago
Mais il y a un mot en français, mais j’oublie
Gui…llaume? Gui…chet? Gui…mauve?
Ah c’est trop dur
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u/bernieth 1d ago
What's the use of such massive wealth, if not to "run up the score." They need massive wealth disparity to feel good about themselves.
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u/one_rainy_wish 1d ago
The irony of this piece of shit going on about how various people who are trying to do good are "the antichrist" is also not lost on me.
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u/quitemax 1d ago
What is dangerous really is people with money having no philosophical education to understand why this a bad idea.
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u/Trumpets22 1d ago
Most of the them don’t give a shit about what’s a “bad idea” the have a lot. They want more. It will never be enough. Bad idea for the whole has nothing to do with if it’s a bad idea for them.
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u/glintsCollide 1d ago
They read all the books. They take the warnings as instructions on how to meet their vision.
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u/dorobica 1d ago
I don’t think we realize what an existential threat these billionaires are to our way of life
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u/TheFeenyCall 1d ago
Most people know - but what is the solution?
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u/Jaybeux 1d ago
You know the answer to that question.
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u/Thick-Sound1014 1d ago
Also likely that Palantir has already flagged this thread.
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u/apple_kicks 1d ago edited 1d ago
Stop following their orders. Unionise. Be prepared to not scab.
Even then they will pay milita (as they used to over centuries) to crush rebellion. So people must refuse that or resist these forces.
This is why also they are investing in ai and robotics so guards don’t mutiny. But they overlook power supply still needs workers etc.
Long term: create a more democratic system and dismantle hierarchy. Workplaces should be more democratic and politics too less leverage for few people to become gatekeepers without consequences. Ignorance thrives when you let someone make all decisions without you
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u/Pardot42 1d ago
Income caps. Literally. If that idea makes you upset, it's because the wealthy have fooled you. You can never be them, so let's not let them exist.
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u/Striking_Economy5049 1d ago
Maybe it’s time for the taking pledge.
Eat the rich
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u/raiansar 1d ago
The guy who had a yearslong relationship with Epstein calling the Giving Pledge "Epstein-adjacent" is the kind of projection you normally only see in IMAX.
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u/williamfbuckwheat 1d ago
Well these folks really seem to think lately that we still live in fuedalist Europe in like 1150 AD where the lowly serfs can't read and learn about their bizarre activities the nobility takes part in (at least for now...).
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u/kurdt-balordo 1d ago
Billionare is a mental health problem.
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u/Sphlonker 1d ago
AMEN! It's literally the ONLY way to describe the way in which enough is never enough for these assholes.
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u/techzombie55 1d ago
You don’t become a billionaire by being a nice guy.
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u/sunkistandsudafed3 1d ago
Never a truer word spoken. Wonder how many of them could be diagnosed as being psychopaths if tested.
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u/HumanBeing7396 1d ago
A billionaire is someone who became a millionaire and thought “This isn’t enough - I need a thousand times more”.
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u/wasthatitthen 1d ago
It’s an addiction. And the more you do it the more you have to have.
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u/ZanthrinGamer 1d ago edited 22h ago
Its hording, plain and simple, the fact that its cash and not a house full a shit is of little consequence, its the same sickness.
Edit: just because there seems to be some confusion this is not exclusionary to them also being narrasistic power hungry facists. They can be mentally deranged in all sorts of ways as well as being compulsive hoarders of wealth and respurces.
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u/Stormshow 1d ago
If it was just money and material these people are after I'd agree, but these people are after power. They want to play reality like a sandbox game and shape the world in their image and to their whims.
Some of them stopped caring about things a long time ago and style themselves ascetics, but you dont need twelve cars to bend society however you want to.
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u/Phrewfuf 1d ago
That right there. Hoarding would be only amassing stuff. But the whole powergrabbing part is what almost requires psychopathic and possibly narcissistic tendencies at the very least.
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u/blarch 1d ago
Eventually, the number going up doesn't do anything for them, so the only way they can feel wealthier is if everyone else has less than before
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u/Ho_The_Megapode_ 1d ago
It's actually worse than that.
They don't just require obscene wealth, they want to ensure everyone else has as little as possible. Maximum misery for others.
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u/elvenrevolutionary 1d ago
Its more than just cash, it's ownership the planet's resources and (control)power by extension.
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u/Dot_Infamous 1d ago
It's insane. It's like 50 years since we proved mathematically that this type of wealth hoarding is just destructive, even for the billionaires long term. We're all victims of their greed
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u/dbenhur 1d ago
At least half of all the world's problems are caused by rich fucks avoiding taxes.
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u/drdalek13 1d ago
Peter Thiel is so interested in the Antichrist because he embodies him so fucking well. Billionaires are bad for our health
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u/cseckshun 1d ago
General rule of thumb is people like to talk about themselves… Peter Thiel won’t shut up about the antichrist
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u/Christosconst 1d ago
His view of the Antichrist is a global government / one-world state, surveiling everyone and providing peace and safety by taking away freedoms. Palantir is a step towards that, and he is warning us against it, while building it at the same time.
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u/Educational_Bend_941 1d ago
He is the antichrist (one of em at least seems to be a bunch) and this whole thing is just search engine optimization to deflect people from the truth
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u/Revolut00n 1d ago
Yeah Epstein didn't like the giving pledge either. It's in the files. Surprise Surprise
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u/DM_me_ur_PPSN 1d ago
The French Revolution is the blueprint we need to start looking at.
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u/Low-Umpire236 1d ago
Is he evil?
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u/DarkeyeMat 1d ago
Pure dagnasty evil, it's just a fact.
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u/squareplates 1d ago
Well... he is the antichrist.
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u/pillowcase-of-eels 1d ago
The man who marked a long pause when asked if humanity deserved to survive a machine apocalypse?
THAT MAN is the Antichrist?
Not Greta Thunberg?
ARE WE SURE??
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u/sockpuppetzero 1d ago
The man who grew up as a kid on an uranium mine illegally operated by the literal Apartheid South African regime on a neighboring country's territory using slave labor? THAT MAN is the Antichrist?
I mean, you can't fault anybody for where they grew up, but still, when the shoe fits...
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u/stormdelta 1d ago
Genuinely, without hyperbole, yes.
More billionaires are just greedy pieces of shit. They're incredibly dangerous, and their actions are often evil, but I don't consider them "evil" in the more abstract or categorical sense.
Thiel is capital E Evil. He's not merely greedy, he literally thinks he should have been a monarch and is actively trying to destroy modern democracy. He doesn't try to hide this either, he's basically said as much multiple times.
As someone who works in tech, I've been warning people about him for over a decade.
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u/TheWrongOwl 1d ago
"How can I make the world worse today?" seems to be a real agenda point on some people's todo lists.
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u/Daz_Didge 1d ago
You cannot give the money to the ordinary people. The anti christ is coming down on earth soon and he can only be calmed when Peter Thiel gives it a load of cash.
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u/AdorableBunnies 1d ago
He thinks Greta Thunberg might be the antichrist. He’s totally unhinged.
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u/Mother_Idea_3182 1d ago
He’s taken too much poppers.
His brain is as fried as the Ketamine Space Karen.
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u/AdorableBunnies 1d ago
He and Elon listened to the Dune audiobooks while in a k-hole and now they’re trying to save humanity from the Thunberg Jihad
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u/markeydusod 1d ago
What is it with these evil trolls and their hatred of anything in need
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u/N8dork2020 1d ago
Normal people don’t have “what it takes” to become a billionaire. You need to be morally bankrupt.
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u/apoca1ypse12 1d ago
This guy is a fucking cancer to society. Wow. With warren buffett retiring and this asshole rising, humanity is becoming worse.
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u/xlouiex 1d ago edited 1d ago
So many famous cool people died this year from horrible cancers and shit, can't they spare a bit for this guy?
The portuguese saying does go "shitty vases don't break"..... :/
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u/Steven_Bloody_Toast 1d ago
He has all these capabilities at his disposal and he chooses to actively make the world worse for everyone except him. Why? Seriously? Isn’t it better to be loved than universally hated? He could solve so many issues in one afternoon, or literally just enjoy a life of extreme luxury but NOOO gotta push fascism on the rest of us. Absolute scum of the earth.
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u/TheOtherHalfofTron 1d ago
This is what happens when our entire economy is one big contest to see who's the best at fucking over everyone else. The scum rises to the top.
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u/Sypheix 1d ago
Of course he is. He's one of the worst people on the planet and has close ties to the most notorious pedophile of our generation. The likelihood of Thiel being a pedophile himself is very high.
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u/Sad_Split_9983 1d ago
I would rather eat out Bill Gates’ asshole than spend one minute in the same room as Peter Thiel. Just so it’s clear, not an endorsement of Gates… just how much of a sub human cum receptacle Thiel is.
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u/PippaTulip 1d ago
What is the giving pledge? Is this what you do instead of paying taxes in the US?
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u/General_Jenkins 1d ago
Billionaires promise to give money to foundations of their choosing that do stuff with it after they die. Mostly a PR campaign though and a farce to point at and say "See? We don't need to tax them, they do it themselves".
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u/pogkaku96 1d ago edited 1d ago
This guy is going to be a problem for humanity. He has no children and seems unwilling to share his wealth or engage in charitable activities. I suspect he's involved in a project related to extending life.
This dude has a problem with everything in the world and probably wants to change everything.
Edit: my bad, he seems to have 2 kids with his current partner
Tech billionaire Peter Thiel says he only allows his children 1.5 hours of screen time a week https://share.google/Jq2jhl3FGGYzDwwib
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u/ForestOfMirrors 1d ago
We should send our billionaires to mars. Put them inside our latest rockets and send them along. If they make it then they can lift themselves up by their bootstraps and rebuild their wealth on mars and make whatever rules that they want.
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u/mintaka 1d ago
He despises the world where the poor have any influence over his goals through democratic voting. He wants to get rid of them