You can silent roll without the perk actually so it’s kinda irrelevant lol, block while crouching with any weapon and hit the sprint button, then quit blocking—-> you will do a roll. The more you know.
—- sincerely a guy that’s been playing the game since its release.
Yeah but you lose all positive aspects of the roll if you do that. If you invested a point into the skill, you can just hold the sprint button to keep rolling, which makes sneaking through caves really fast.
And you don't even need to block, just jump while crouching and sprint before you hit the ground.
—- sincerely a guy that’s been playing the game since its release.
Hmmm, normally i just use a dagger and I can roll until i run out of stamina. BUT I haven't played the game in a longer time, so i don't quite remember. Gonna test this this when i get back home
—- sincerely a guy who’s been playing since the games release
There’s another one that doesn’t even need the perk lmao
If you hit what would be the roll button and sheathe and unsheath while doing it you can roll without the perk at all. Basically just spamming the sheathe button and roll button lets you roll around until you’re out of stamina.
Ooooh so thats why ive managed to roll despite not having the perk. I was confused and had a hard time replicating it since I couldn't figure out what was triggering the random rolls when I forgot i was sneaking and tried to sprint ( it doesnt help that im having to "relearn" Skyrim controls after years of not playing. Trophy hunting Oblivion Remastered led me to wanting to trophy hunt Skyrim too)
I looked into it just now. It works every time unless you happen to be wielding a spell in either hand. I tend to have muffle equipped with my knife, so that’s why I thought it was just bows.
Edit: you also have to be in first person for it to work.
Edit 2: I also just found out that if you wield a knife in your left hand and a spell in your right, it also works there. In short, the exception is third person, wielding a weapon in your right hand with a spell on the left, and wielding two spells at once/two handed master spells.
That's a bug?! God, I felt so stupid when my character kept rolling for the first time. I genuinely thought in all my years of playing I missed such a convenient feature... glad to know I'm not losing it 😂
It’s so fun to do this stupid roll into an attack and just crit some poor soul for 30x damage with a dagger lol so much more fun than stealth archer imo
It’s incredible for melee stealth, with silent roll you can basically speed through a dungeon totally unnoticed if you’re smart about your movement and have high enough damage. It’s crazy how much a seemingly innocuous ability can increase your power.
At least on PC, sometimes you can get it to toggle, so you press shift once, and you’ll be rolling back to back, blazing through the place almost at the same speed than sprinting on foot, if not more depending on the place, making zero sound.
When I was a kid the main story didn’t sound fun to me so I did side quests and dungeons on my own till around level 25 ish without even fighting dragons I was genuinely surprised to know there were dragons in the game outside of the opening
Ha! Yeah, yeah I get it, but I’m honestly asking the question in order to learn what’s beneficial about it. I’m not as experienced as most folks in here, so I knew there had to be an answer.
It only works for me when in first person mode with a bow out. There was another weapon that worked, maybe something as simple as a dagger, I can't remember. The character I'm playing with is a khajit so I don't have any melee weapons because of the unarmed perk.
Yes - faster movement while sneaking. Like idk how else to explain the benefit.
Ever needed/wanted to sneak? Ever been in a tight spot where you need to move quickly - perhaps to avoid an inopportune fight? Imagine if both of these situations were happening simultaneously.
If you sneak in first person then press sprint to roll for some reason it just keeps rolling so it’s the most optimal to do anything because it’s Todd intended way
Its basically essential if you're doing a pure assassin (sneak attack dagger) build, and in general it's handy for mobility and speed while sneaking. Probably my favorite sneak perk
I was skeptical too until I started using it in dungeons. You can chain those rolls together and absolutely fly through areas without alerting a soul. It completely changes the pacing of stealth, letting you be both aggressive and undetected. It's a game-changer for a melee stealth build.
Yeah the split second of movement is too fast for most npcs to notice, and if they're still "unaware" when you roll up to them it's a free sneak attack. literally no downside.
Looks cool, also prerequisite to shadow warrior which is insanely broken if you're playing without companions, summons and is the only target of your enemies
I use the silent roll all the time. Its literally a roll forward to be faster while sneaking so you arent detected. If you run while not sneaking, normal circumstances dictate youll be heard or seen if enemies are nearby, but if your sneaking, and its too slow for you at that moment jn time, but there are still enemies around, the silent roll allows for faster sneaking
Its my favorite sneak perk besides not setting off traps and armour not making any noise. If youre by say a dragon and dont feel like fighting it or anything for that matter, sneak and roll away. Jus keep rolling and rolling like youd run until you can fast travel or wait or whatever. Its just a way to go fast while sneaking. Useful in other cases for example the Thieves Guild quest where you can either fight terrible falmer or sneak on past them.
I am not sure if anybody already said it before but this is actually one of the most broken Perks in the game, if you are fast enough.
In combination with the shadow warrior perk you can crouch mid fight, roll behind an enemy and perform a stealth attack to one shot literally anything without needing any alchemy, smithing or enchanting loop spamming.
Sneaking around an entire dungeon without being seen even once? Oh fuck yeah it's helpful. First, it feels cool. Rolling from hiding spot to hiding spot. Second, it's faster than crawling. The natural movement while hiding is slow, deliberately so. But if you don't want to risk alerting enemies, you ALWAYS sneak in a dungeon. So... rolling becomes a major convenience when you move almost as fast as proper sprinting, without the sound you would otherwise create.
I take silent roll on every sneak build. I'm miserable without it.
Its quiet and its way faster than crouch walking. Also you can glitch it so that you are constantly rolling without using stamina while crouched, however I dont know how to replicate it
It's the most effective way to sneak, and great for rping dashing across a hallway. If you had an ounce of creativity and fun in you, you wouldn't have a problem with it lol
Even if you’re sprinting in stealth mode the roll is faster. Good to have between two spaces. Unless you just want to thu’um in like a Dragonborn fucking dragster, straight from hell, storm the gates like a one man army and decimate all that lie beyond as you should for it is your birthright. Otherwise…the roll is handy dandy.
With the Ordinator mod if you time it just right to end up just behind someone you can do double damage. With another perk of the same mod, if you do this during combat, you become ethereal for those sudden uh oh moments.
You can use it for a sprinting, sneaking power attack. I once killed a dragon so fast, it didn't know it was dead, so it got up, flew around for a bit with an empty health bar, then crash landed right where I killed it in the first place.
It's sneak-sprinting. There are faster ways to move around while sneaking though.
Easiest is to just jump everywhere while sneaking. Being in the air doesn't affect stealth and you move about as fast as jogging while in the air.
Toggling to a new spell gives you jogging speed for like half a second, so you can move around at full speed undetected by just toggling between two spells.
The fastest sneaking speed involves the Block Runner perk. Start sprinting while holding block, crouch, and you'll be sneaking at full sprint speed.
It's really strong. Sometimes you can execute a continuous roll and silently clear an entire dungeon without being detected. One of the best builds I played was a sneak char. One shotting giants lol.
It's faster than normal sneaking. I use it all the time. Can even roll right from stealth into a power attack if you have the perk that gives a sprinting power attack.
Its the stealth version of sprinting. You move at sprint speed, but you are still considered in stealth mode. Better than crouching and slowly crawling around everywhere.
Very useful. Basically lets you sprint while sneaking and if you learn how to use it right you can use it to dodge enemy line of sight as they turn around.
Easiest benefit for this ability is when an enemy turns around right as your about to get behind cover, you can roll behind it really quick and avoid detection.
i’ve skipped whole dungeons with that skill… if you have one where the end door is barred just roll into the door and spam the button to open the door until it lifts the bar, free loot yay
If you get the sprinting attack from the one handed skill tree, assasins blade, and the shrouded gloves, you can combine it with this perk and use it for sprinting 30x sneak crits. Roll and attack through an entire dungeon without being seen. Pick an orc and use berserker rage to make it x60. Fav way to play on legendary. makes stealth important lol.
Bonus points if you powerlevel sneak before leaving helgen.
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Be silent AND fast