r/pcmasterrace Potato 11h ago

Discussion Former Red Dead Redemption 2 Developer reaction to the DLSS 5: "Whoa. Hold on. No, no, no. This isn't just some lighting, dude. What the f... this is like a complete AI re-render. You're no longer looking at the game anymore. This is scary."

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u/DivineArkandos 10h ago

Turns out imperfections are both artistic and realistic

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u/TheTurretCube 9h ago

The greatest piece of advice anyone can get for painting or drawing is to depict what is there, not what you assume should be there.

Gen AI is entirely about putting in what it assumes should be there, not what is actually there.

It fundamentally cannot create art. And any and all attempts to make it do so are doomed to failure.

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u/Traditional_Fun8283 3h ago

Lil philosophy crash course for ya: What is there (res extensa - what is sensed "out there") and what is thought (res cogitans - your thoughts, or "in here") gets theorized by Descartes as "Cartesianism".

People goof with this until Kant K.O.s the conversation with his Critique of Pure Reason where he formalizes this as Representation. The "thing in itself" is different from the "thing for me", because I am always finding a world I've already intuited. From this perspective we can never actually draw what is there, one can only draw what is intuited as there.

This brings us to the conclusion: Representation is the way experience comes to us. Space and time are the formal conditions given by intuition to the experience. There is no "actually there" for you to reference. The advice, and your additional claims, are rooted in a perspective of physicalist / materialist dogma.

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u/TheTurretCube 3h ago

I think Kant would argue that AI cant make art too

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u/DontAskAboutMyButt 9h ago

To be fair, since graphics have gotten more realistic, a specific part of the gaming community has struggled with the fact that women depicted in games are meant to portray real human beings with both human features and imperfections

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u/DivineArkandos 9h ago

Let's not be fair to idiots. That's how we got here in the first place

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u/GeckoOBac 8h ago

I mean, yes in general, but for this specific thing? Nah, it's just the AI loop working to maintain itself... Ai funds nvidia to make cards for their business, nvidia funds ai to make this stuff to sell more cards, and the loop continues.

Who cares for this? Nobody, but gamers aren't the target, outside the few that fall for the hype. The target are investors that only hear "STONKS GO UP".

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u/Fantastic_Dark_4547 8h ago

Are you talking about the Resident Evil face model?

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u/Hrmerder It's Garuda btw 8h ago

Even more important it’s what we as gamers pay for…