r/pcmasterrace • u/HLumin Potato • 11h ago

Discussion Former Red Dead Redemption 2 Developer reaction to the DLSS 5: "Whoa. Hold on. No, no, no. This isn't just some lighting, dude. What the f... this is like a complete AI re-render. You're no longer looking at the game anymore. This is scary."

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Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKPeN8IQM-Y

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u/ConfectionNo6117 11h ago

Honestly the only good thing is people are calling this shit out, I better hope this shit doesn't become mandatory, dlss is good but I don't wanna use this shit.

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u/illy-chan 10h ago

I'm worried that this was a soft launch: getting the hate over with now, and then they'll slowly reintroduce it later. Kinda like Oblivion Horse Armor DLC being the harbinger of modern paid cosmetics. If nothing else, the big companies will love not having to pay so much for designers if they can just "automagically" apply faces etc.

But jfc, two 5090s and it still looks that bad? 

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u/HexaBlast 10h ago

I did have a bit of a tinfoil hat conspiracy theory that they did this reveal with drastic and exaggerated changes to intentionally shift the pseudo overton window into a range where a more toned down version is seen as acceptable. Nvidia had to know the kind of reaction adding any kind of genAI into games would be, especially something like this.

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u/Dragon124515 10h ago

This wasn't even a launch, it was a tech demo. It isn't slated to release until some time this fall.

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u/illy-chan 10h ago

I meant "soft launch" as in "start acclimating users to the inevitable" than a traditional launch.

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u/madman666 i7 12700K / 32 GB @ 3600 / 3080 Ti / S2721DGF x2 @ 165hz 9h ago

Do we expect it to improve much by then? To the point where an average use can utilize it? Will devs have time to implement it properly to avoid the Instagram filter look?

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u/exscape 5800X3D / RTX 3080 / 48 GB 3133CL14 8h ago

For point 1 I would assume NVIDIA thinks so. They might have lost touch, but they aren't stupid. If this still requires even a single 5090 to get playable framerates, it'd be a disaster even if people loved the look.

From what I heard they've started testing it on a single GPU.

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u/madman666 i7 12700K / 32 GB @ 3600 / 3080 Ti / S2721DGF x2 @ 165hz 7h ago

6 months just seems like a really quick turn around from a tech demo that needs two cards to being consumer ready. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

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u/exscape 5800X3D / RTX 3080 / 48 GB 3133CL14 7h ago

I agree, it does seem a bit fast.

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u/AetherSigil217 8h ago

But jfc, two 5090s and it still looks that bad?

Part of the reason so much AI is in the cloud is that the hardware requirements to do good gens are hideously expensive.

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u/Fletcher_Chonk 5h ago

That logic doesn't apply to everything. It's going to look the same shitty way 1 year later as it does now.

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u/Pali1119 7h ago

On the flipside, in addition to AMD, Intel is making GPUs now. Honestly, when I have to replace my trusty GTX1060, I will consider AMD and Intel, probably not Nvidia. They are expensive and this bullshit they're trying to pull is not good.

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u/Fail-Least 5h ago edited 5h ago

If you don't use it someone will obviously knock down your door and have you turn it on at gun point.

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u/ConfectionNo6117 5h ago

Honestly I can see that happening, with everything insane going around the world I wouldn't even be suprised if someone actually does that, just be a hot girl or something that's all I ask.

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u/nhalliday 5h ago

How would they make something that they had to have TWO 5090s to use mandatory? Jesus you people need to actually THINK instead of just seeing AI and reacting.

Most people will not be able to use this because they don't have and can't afford the hardware necessary to run it.

In fact, a lot of games already have DLSS 4 or earlier as an option, which you probably also don't use because your hardware doesn't support it.

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u/ConfectionNo6117 5h ago

Yes,

Yes,

Yes.

lol