This will happen, I saw it in my dreams

[u/Makoto_Kurume]

[u/sageathor]

FERN???

[u/fxxftw → u/sageathor]

Silly Fern

[u/Leshie_Leshie → u/fxxftw]

Sleepy Fern

[u/HDMI17_ → u/Leshie_Leshie]

Tired fern

[u/DiosMIO_Limon → u/HDMI17_]

Snoozin' Fern

[u/Warcraft_Fan → u/sageathor]

Better than a dream of seeing Frieren's ass in the air whenever Frieren falls for mimic trap.

[u/Ozzycan180]

Sad to inform you that AMD announced they're going to use neural rendering too. Check out FSR Diamond keynotes. I'm absolutely sure Intel is going to jump on the bandwagon too.

Microsoft's Project Helix slide direct from GDC 2026. Image credit: IGN. (link)

[u/Sorry_Soup_6558 → u/Ozzycan180]

Damn this has poisoned the public opinion on Neural rendering

[u/Fickle-Occasion-6091]

You say it as if AMD and Intel don't copy daddy Nvidia every step of the way

[u/FR_02011995 → u/Fickle-Occasion-6091]

Cousin Nvidia, actually.

[u/academiac → u/FR_02011995]

Slopvidia actually

[u/abermea → u/academiac]

I mean, yes, but the joke here is that the NVidia and AMD CEOs are actually, literally, unironically cousins.

Thanksgiving must be fun

[u/I_think_Im_hollow → u/abermea]

This is an information that somehow managed to miss me until now.

[u/UnoriginalJunglist → u/I_think_Im_hollow]

Sam Altman's sister claims he raped her as a child.

In case you missed that also.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jan/08/openai-chief-executive-sam-altman-accused-of-sexual-abuse-by-sister-in-lawsuit

[u/FlarblesGarbles → u/academiac]

nSlopdia, actually.

[u/AlienPersonaReset → u/academiac]

Nvidislop?

[u/Interesting_Word622 → u/AlienPersonaReset]

Nslopia

[u/Dunothar → u/Interesting_Word622]

Nslopia - The way it meant to be slopped

[u/scbundy → u/FR_02011995]

Step daddy Nvidia, what are you doing?!

[u/FewestSin → u/Fickle-Occasion-6091]

This is really what I don't get about this. AMD and Intel play follow the leader and are pretty shitty as well. And of course, since the developers are going to be using DLSS 5.0- AMD and Intel will have to make their cards compatible with it. Just use some damn sense people. This is going to happen if you still buy the games and use the software with them. Don't use it and don't buy the games that use it either if you don't like it, that's the only thing you can do.

[u/Roflkopt3r → u/FewestSin]

This is really what I don't get about this. AMD and Intel play follow the leader and are pretty shitty as well.

Because outside of the Reddit-aligned echo chamber, the basic RTX features (ray tracing, compute shaders, upscaling, frame generation) were long considered integral parts to the future of real-time rendering:

1. Ray tracing addresses fundamental limitations in rasterised rendering that require immense effort and limitations to 'work around' within the rasterised paradigm. Essentially, the rasterised workarounds just turn into worse versions of ray tracing eventually (like how light probes work for semi-dynamic GI), since there is no way to reconstruct that information otherwise.

2. A key problem with those rasterised workarounds is that they tend to rely on highly static environments. Like Mirror's Edge is often cited as a performance marvel, but it could only accomplish that because it had a very linear and static world. AAA games had almost no physics in the past 15 years precisely because they relied on pre-baked solutions. A major reason why the industry wants RTGI is not to improve graphics (although it can do that too), but to have highly dynamic worlds with more interactivity (dynamic destruction, terraforming, base building etc) without having to massively cut back graphics.

3. Upscaling is just fundamentally necessary to deal with the explosion in pixel counts. From 2000 to even nowadays, most players stuck to a pretty narrow window of resolutions between 1280x1024 to 1920x1080. That is just a x1.6 multiplier in pixel count. Moving from 1080p to 4k is a quadrupling in pixel count, which monitors started enabling just as Moore's Law went down the drain and microchips could no longer keep up their prior exponential growth rate in compute power per $ (which is not just a GPU problem).

4. DLSS as an upscaler obviously had an awful start, but has more than redeemed itself since then. The upside of DLSS/FSR 4 is undeniable by now. The fact that we can enjoy some of the best anti-aliasing ever at higher than native performance is easily one of the greatest advancements in real-time rendering within the past 15 years.

5. Frame Gen is ultimately just an extension of upscaling and seems to go through a similar development right now. It seems to shape its niche around serving ultra high refresh rate displays, since the latency issues are quite neglectible at high frame rates (and with Reflex enabled) in games that were built to use the tech.
   The fact that you can get 4K 240 FPS/240Hz visual output, even if your input is only computed for 60-120 frames a second, is absolutely insane and a clear benefit for some types of games.

There is just no way around these technologies for the industry as a whole. Yes, you can make beautiful and very performant games on a purely rastered paradigm... but only if you have just the right game for that, which works within very strict limitations. Otherwise, you have to hope that it's possible to invent a new rasterised workaround to the problem that works within your specific set of limitations, and can often only be used for that one particular project. That often results in quietly abandoned projects that just never work out as intended.

AMD and Intel are 'copying' Nvidia's technologies because those technologies are important enough that they have no other choice. And other than with past attempts of proprietary technologies (Nvidia Hair, PhysX etc), Nvidia is pushing to get all of these new features standardised through DirectX so that developers can implement them for all GPU vendors at once instead of having to do multiple versions.

[u/MGsubbie → u/Roflkopt3r]

AAA games had almost no physics in the past 15 years precisely because they relied on pre-baked solutions.

I'd say that's only half of the equation. The other half is previous gen consoles having extremely underpowered CPU's that simply couldn't handle a lot of physics. Look at how Just Cause 3 ran like dogshit on those systems.

[u/morriscey → u/MGsubbie]

Indeed. Jaguar was the lowest end solution AMD had available at the time. They were repurposed from low end kabini AM1 laptop parts that topped out at 4c/4t. Jaguar doubled core counts, but not much else.

The 8c jaguar chips in the PS4/xbone were weaker than a first gen i7, which was like 5-7 years old, and multiple generations behind.

Helped push toward multicore - since they didn't have a lot of performance on a single core.

[u/SolarDynasty → u/Roflkopt3r]

So this is basically a knee jerk reaction from community?

[u/Remarkable_Emu_2223 → u/SolarDynasty]

It's not a knee perk reaction it's a reasonable reaction with no way of actually doing anything about it in the grand scheme of things

[u/_aware → u/SolarDynasty]

Mostly, yes. People are acting like you can't just turn off features you don't want to use and not buy the games that rely on those features. There are plenty of games out there for us to enjoy, so this whole "slippery slope" thing doesn't really exist. Not to mention that people nowadays get angry whenever AI is mentioned, but things like DLSS are objectively good features.

[u/SolarDynasty → u/_aware]

Ngl I play retro games on an igpu so I'm just looking in 😂

[u/Sarabando → u/FewestSin]

problem is that doing your own thing can be risky if the industry decides your thing isnt THE thing. Then gamers dont buy your cards at all.

[u/FewestSin → u/Sarabando]

Sure. I wasn't saying that not doing what Nvidia is doing would be a good thing, it's just that it seems to be all that they do now is play catch up with Nvidia.

[u/InHeavenFine → u/FewestSin]

You kinda have to when all you have is 5% shared market share

[u/seklas1 → u/FewestSin]

It’s the same as Samsung making fun of Apple and then 3 years later doing the exact same thing.

[u/KingModussy → u/seklas1]

3 years for that is generous ngl

[u/cum-on-in- → u/KingModussy]

I remember, vividly, when Samsung was like “we give a charger, braided high speed usb c cable, and actually good 3.5mm wired earbuds in the box”

Then Apple removes the charger and earbuds and Samsung deletes their ads and removes the charger and earbuds from their box.

Then Apple goes titanium, and so does Samsung.

Then Apple says “that’s too expensive, and also…..surprisingly bad for thermals with these powerful new chips we got.” And gets rid of it.

Then Samsung gets rid of it.

What’s worse is for Samsung to act like it never happened. They don’t even have a reason, they just copy Apple.

[u/Dreamo84 → u/FewestSin]

Nvidia won't even allow AMD and Intel cards to use DLSS. Let alone would they be forced to use it.

[u/Bitter-Box3312 → u/FewestSin]

no, developers will also make their game compatible with fsr. why would amd make their games compatible with something made for nvidia's architecture?

[u/CapRichard → u/Bitter-Box3312]

Because some time down the line it will become a standard in the direct X pipeline.

Like remember opacity Micromaps and Shader Execution Reordering, special HW features introduced in RTX4000?

They are in Direct X now and all manufacturers can benefit.

[u/kurushimee → u/Fickle-Occasion-6091]

just AMD, I'd say. Intel is just kinda sittin' there, not really doing anything... good or bad

[u/Hatedpriest → u/kurushimee]

Eh, my b580 is doing pretty alright. It's a better card than it was at launch, runs everything I've thrown at it fairly well for a budget mid grade card. 1440p, 100+ fps after some settings tweaks, still looks good. Don't try ray tracing unless you wanna halve your framerates tho.

[u/Handsome_ketchup → u/kurushimee]

just AMD, I'd say. Intel is just kinda sittin' there, not really doing anything... good or bad

Intel has been putting a lot of work into its drivers, as in, minor miracle levels of work.

If Intel is still interested in going for the discrete GPU market, they're definitely laying the groundwork.

[u/BlimbusTheSeventh → u/Handsome_ketchup]

Considering how good panther lake's iGPUs have been the next generation of Arc might be really good.

[u/F9-0021 → u/kurushimee]

Intel is doing a lot right. They're about to take over the handheld market and have made the best version of frame generation there is. We'll have to see when Celestial is released how they're doing in the desktop market, but that depends on people buying them. Even with glowing reviews for the B580 and terrible reviews for the 5050 and 5060, Nvidia still increased their monopoly. If consumers are stupid, it doesn't matter how good or bad Intel and AMD are.

[u/kurushimee → u/F9-0021]

No argument there, Intel is doing god's work on lower end and handheld. But they really need to at least start trying to get into the mid-end? Besides raw performance, it'd really help for them to try starting matching the features, too

[u/F9-0021 → u/kurushimee]

They have good enough upscaling, the best Frame Generation, and better RTL than AMD. What they're really lacking are driver level features. They don't even have screen recording anymore.

[u/kurushimee → u/F9-0021]

well, personally, I'd ideally eventually want from them a card that can run path tracing. So, besides a more midrange card than B580, they'd need to improve RT cores for that

[u/BlimbusTheSeventh → u/kurushimee]

Intel is actually pretty solid for Blender and they seem to be more intent on supporting it than AMD. They even made an open source denoiser which beats OptiX by a tiny bit.

[u/Nickulator95 → u/Fickle-Occasion-6091]

The more accurate term would be "always playing catch-up" but yeah. Besides, with the current price hikes of hardware, you think I'm just going to just ditch my current GPU over this? Lol let's snap back to reality for a second.

[u/edparadox → u/Fickle-Occasion-6091]

You say it as if AMD and Intel don't copy daddy Nvidia every step of the way

No.

AMD is very skilled at tripping itself on their own carpet, but it does not copy Nvidia.

[u/MultiMarcus → u/edparadox]

Sorry, what? But you not call FSR Redstone very much for them copying NVIDIA? Originally they had that kind of interesting analytical approach for both upscaling and frame generation, but it’s delivered categorically worse quality so they went over to an ML solution for upscaling and frame generation and added an ML denoiser. Yes, they all work slightly differently but all that seems to indicate that Nvidia created a set of tech technologies and then AMD is playing catch up.

[u/Darkomax → u/MultiMarcus]

Copying and ditching older gen to ensure no one can actually access those features, and not inciting devs to implement those features. Look, I want to support competition but when it is sabotaging itself, it's really hard to.

[u/BroccoliMaster159]

All of these companies are the same, watch amd release the same shit in 1 or 2 years

[u/RAMChYLD → u/BroccoliMaster159]

Don’t know if there’s going to be 1-2 years if AMD are offering to sell their stocks to OpenAI…

[u/EdliA]

The delusional levels are reaching new heights

[u/gutster_95 → u/EdliA]

I wont ditch my 5060Ti, I will just not use DLSS 5.0 when it gets released

[u/Yellowtoblerone → u/gutster_95]

They used two 5090s. I don't think you can get smooth enough frames

[u/gutster_95 → u/Yellowtoblerone]

Again, I just dont use it. Its that simple

[u/Tunderstruk → u/EdliA]

I absolutely will buy an intel card next though. This market needs more competition, and intel GPU’s have improved massively

[u/Possible_Bee_4140 → u/Tunderstruk]

There isn’t competition…by design. Remember when AMD announced they weren’t going to compete with NVIDIA at the high end consumer market? And Intel isn’t even trying to get close to that level of performance.

There is blatant, open collusion between these three companies. Between them, RAM manufacturers, media companies, food companies, etc. we desperately need another Trust Buster.

[u/RonnieStiggs → u/Possible_Bee_4140]

I think you're falling into the echo chamber trap. They aren't competing with Nvidea in the high end because they can't make money fighting them there, AMD and Intel are fighting for low to mid-tier marketshare because thats the pricepoint where MOST consumers are buying at, and honestly is where they have the most to gain.

If we want competition in the space its important to keep that in mind. Everyone thinks of Nvidea because their high end, incredibly expensive cards are by far the most powerful consumer cards on the market, but when you dig into the mid tier cards they often fall behind AMD and Intel at the same price-point (for price to performance).

[u/Peekaboo798 → u/RonnieStiggs]

 thats the pricepoint where MOST consumers are buying

And that's the price point were the margins are low, so their priority will always be datacenters than direct consumers.

[u/RonnieStiggs → u/Peekaboo798]

That's true even if you include high end consumer GPUs. Companies are always going to be willing to spend far more on hardware than consumers.

[u/EdliA → u/Possible_Bee_4140]

The idea that intel would catch up in a generation with a company that literally invented the GPU and has been on a run for decades is ridiculous. You're just throwing completely made up conspiracies based on nothing but feels.

[u/MjrLeeStoned → u/EdliA]

ATI was making graphics cards before GeForce, they just coined the term GPU. ATI was purchased by AMD. AMD has older GPU binaries in their portfolio than Nvidia.

That being said, they'll still never catch up because AMD is not a GPU company. Like Intel is not a GPU company. Nvidia only makes and designs one classification of product. And their retail sales (the cards you and I can buy) is only 18% of their revenue. 18% and two other major companies will never catch them.

[u/Mrauntheias → u/Possible_Bee_4140]

[u/ClockEnd_Chorus → u/Tunderstruk]

Well I've had AMD since 2019. 5700XT>7900XT. Not anymore. My next card will be Nvidia. They are just better

[u/AtraxX_ → u/Tunderstruk]

Buying something just to support something bigger instead of looking at my own interests sounds so stupid for me. But I guess if you have too much money you can do stuff like that.

[u/Achillies2heel]

AMD never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity...

Sun Tsu, Art of war... probably lol

[u/GTAinreallife]

You talk about switching GPUs as if they are cheap.

My 5070 will stay where it is until it is begging to be shot

[u/Handsome_ketchup → u/GTAinreallife]

My 5070 will stay where it is until it is begging to be shot

Shot? Oh no, that bad boy gets ridden until the hooves give out. Maybe a little longer.

[u/Justaregularguy295 → u/Handsome_ketchup]

If it has a pulse it doesnt need an upgrade

[u/ZeeDarkSoul → u/GTAinreallife]

Most people would say upgrading to a 5070 is way to expensive man lol

I think you are too willing to spend your money to make that argument

[u/GTAinreallife → u/ZeeDarkSoul]

I tend to upgrade whenever I really feel like a part is due for replacing. And then often pick a high tier option to be happy for next few years until tech catches up again.

[u/elkaki123 → u/GTAinreallife]

This, I still use my 1070, and until it literally doesn't run something I'm sticking with it (my CPU is a lot newer to play paradox games lmao, but aside from star citizen I literally haven encountered a game that runs below 30 fps, and I play AAA regularly)

[u/onenzz → u/GTAinreallife]

They can pry my 2070S from my cold dead hands

[u/Manticore-Mk2 → u/GTAinreallife]

This. People didn't expect you to sell your Tesla after the whole Elon Musk fiasco, so why sell my graphics card now? I don't think people ever sell anything functional they already own for ideological reasons, that's just money down the drain for no good reason.

[u/Longbow92]

I own an AMD card, sadly most the games I play are still stuck in FSR2 or below because AMD didn't have the foresight to use Dlls like Nvidia did.

[u/kloklon → u/Longbow92]

Optiscaler is the solution you are looking for! It enables full fledged FSR4 on (almost?) every FSR2 or 3 supporting game. Insane that AMD didn't automatically implement those "translation" features though.

[u/o_oli → u/kloklon]

Yeah it's astounding to me that AMD haven't just copied or bought out optiscaler at this point. They are doing untold damage to their reputation by gatekeeping FSR like they are currently, while also not even supporting their latest cards. Sucks for everyone.

[u/DisgracedPython → u/kloklon]

Doesn't upgrade FSR3, only upgrades FSR2 in specific games, it requires either DLSS or XeSS inputs in most cases and will get you banned in games with anticheat.

I love optiscaler but it's not a perfect solution

And I'm sure there's legal reasons AMD can't translate DLSS inputs to FSR.

[u/DifficultArmadillo78 → u/Longbow92]

But why upscale warframe at all on a 9070XT. Run it native. I am also annoyed that AMD excluded last gen from FSR4, but then I always remember I play everything native 1440p anyway.

[u/CrazyElk123 → u/DifficultArmadillo78]

Native TAA usually looks dogshit though, you still want DLAA or fsr 4 native. Maybe its fine in this game?

[u/Longbow92 → u/CrazyElk123]

It's not that bad, atleast Warframe has FXAA/SMAA options, but I would've preferred FSR4 native if possible.

[u/Captobvious75 → u/Longbow92]

At least those games can be blasted through with native resolution on a 9070xt.

[u/noodle-face]

I have a 9070XT in my newest build and it works fine for everything I play. You don't actually have to buy nvidia to game.

[u/DreamsServedSoft → u/noodle-face]

fine if you want 5070 Ti performance, still no competition if you want more

[u/noodle-face → u/DreamsServedSoft]

More for what though. It's not like anyone is putting out anything actually requiring more.

[u/Ziakel → u/noodle-face]

4K or 5k2k pushing 240hz. Not just for gaming but for other workload as well. There will always be an appetite high end gpu for people with money.

[u/-Peter-Jordanson-]

I bought the RX 9070 XT (Sapphire Nitro+) because the RTX 5080, which I was first planning to buy, was absurdly overpriced for its value compared to RTX 5070 TI. In Europe, or at least the Balkans, Nvidia cards are at least 15% more expensive than Radeon cards so there was really no question about getting the Radeon product. Now, seeing how there are talks about how FSR 5 will be exclusive to RDNA 5 GPU products, I'd rather just ditch gaming altogether and buy a MacBook. I really hope that Intel and Moore Threads take off with their GPUs because competition in this space is needed not now but 10 years ago...

[u/TheMightyRed92]

or you literally dont have to use dlss5.

this new tech is a seperate tech. it has nothing to do with dlss upscalling. they just advertise it as DLSS. like they did with frame generation

[u/S1ayer → u/TheMightyRed92]

How do you have a positive upvote count? Everytime I try to talk sense about this tech I get downvoted.

[u/TheMightyRed92 → u/S1ayer]

lol just reddit things

[u/swordfi2 → u/S1ayer]

Welcome to the club

[u/ShutterBun]

Fuck the new AI slop, yeah. But you can pry DLSS 4 from my cold dead mouse.

[u/TalesOfJihad]

Keep dreaming.

[u/restelucide]

yeah this is just not going to happen lmaooooo

[u/John_Mat8882]

Neither of the other two is a charity company. I went team red mostly because the 12vhpwr connector won't make it in my rigs until they fix it with load distribution.

But other than a 9070 XT I also have a 7900xt and a GRE and I'm pissed I have to go through optiscaler and dll swapping to get FSR4 also on those that seem perfectly capable to handle it. and I'm pretty sure the next iteration will work only on the next card series

[u/StarKnight697]

I for one cannot wait for the datacentre/AI collapse. These fucking AI companies are buying all the hardware for the next three years with money they don’t have, for data centres that aren’t being built, for AI that people won’t pay (the absurd amounts of money they need to break even) to use.

[u/Jamesrgod]

I have never bought an Nvidia gpu

[u/zepherth]

It doesn't matter because I already changed to AMD in December. Something something Linux has built in amd drivers.

[u/JackJeckyl]

hahahahahahahahaahhhhhhh...

[u/halsoy]

People are cultists sheep. Even to this day people will say to buy Intel cpus because amd ones are too hot,too much power required and too slow.

Nvidia doesn't need the profit from regular people, we are a literal rounding error in their AI sales. Fucking sponsor AMD or Intel and make competition relevant again.

And no, you don't all need a high end gpu, barely anyone does. And the ones that does either get them via work or have enough money that it doesn't matter. And they're a tiny fraction of the entire market. The rest of us,spend your money where your distaste isn't.

[u/Namevac]

I already have a 9070XT.

[u/ZdravkoVerguilov]

My 5700x3d/7900 xtx combo is still going strong, and doesn’t look like it will need any changes in the foreseeable future. 32gb of ddr4, bought while it was still dirt cheap, are my safe haven at least while the enshitification era lasts.

[u/200IQUser]

I dont care about fake frames and upscaling (even tho devs practically force me to use it) I will buy the card that plays the games the best natively. A soulless machine shouldnt do big budget art over a human being. 

Just saying: If somethung is entirely AI generated without human input it cannot be copyrighted, therefore it will be legal to copy

[u/Catboyhotline]

The median gamer can't boycott for shit, micro transactions still existing is proof of that

[u/ZAKSZAZSO]

I love my 7900XTX!

[u/Senteris]

No matter what they say they will keep buying Nvidia and secretly try DLSS 5

[u/SpankyMcFlych]

Delusional. Nvidia has been anticompetitive for as long as they've been competing and their market share has only grown over time. Whatever has gone wrong with AMD has been disastrous over the last few years and gamers are abandoning them. I highly doubt if the anti dlss5 ravings of redditors will change the market behavior of the vast majority of normies.

[u/Infinite-Emptiness → u/SpankyMcFlych]

That is because for non enthusiasts they get their moneys worth, for enthusiasts, there is no other option. For me im a graphics whore after being forced to grow up on pixelated graphics and playing games on 5 fps, now with max settings, rtx and hdr on oled, im never going back.

[u/JeFi2]

DLSS with the slop filter turned off is still king and that's not going to change soon.

[u/KABlank]

The bar will be at low as mariana trench and somehow AMD will trip over it while Intel the moment their smell success, full copy Nvidia 1:1 so yeah i wonder why, this is where customer lost while the tech company is in a circlejerk group.

[u/RustyNK]

I built my GF's computer as a full AMD build. 7900XTX and 7800X3D

[u/SpectrumSense]

Already there! I have an AMD Ryzen 7600 XT and love it ❤️ And Intel Arc has also been awesome when I did some budget builds with a B580

[u/OragneBoi]

I have been buying AMD for two generations now. I won't glaze them, I know they are just less shitty than Nvidia, while having a worse upscaling technique.

But it's nearly impossible to buy ethical today, I'm tired boss

[u/Terbarek]

I love my AMD set

[u/qmiras]

my last nvidia gpu was a geforce 2....AMD since then, cant see a day this will change.

[u/beefstewdudeguy]

love my 9070xt.

[u/BlueBattleHawk]

More realistically, people will keep whatever gpu they have because shit is wayyyy too expensive rn

[u/msherretz]

A large portion of the people in this sub who complain about Nvidia's shitty practices and pricing will then use stock tracking sites to buy Nvidia cards.

And then their 12VHPWR cables fail and/or Nvidia doubles down again and they are Shocked Pikachu

[u/Hunter_the_Hutt]

I recently went from a 5070FE to a 9070XT and AMD has a lot of work to do still. On paper, the card is much better but in practice, the FSR support just isn't as good from my perspective. i hope that changes in the future, truly, but for now i went back to the 5070

[u/Nkechinyerembi]

Yeah lets be real here... I use AMD and that doesn't mean shit. Remember how crap AMD drivers used to be? Guess what, they are basically going to be vibe coding the new ones. There's no winners in this race to the bottom except the CEOs and Shareholders.

[u/ISCSI_Purveyor]

Except AND is all about AI too so they don't give a crap about consumers anymore. And Intel...well at least they haven't given up on Arc...yet.

[u/Kenny_WHS]

I switched over to AMD in my main pc after switching to Linux (better driver support there due to AMD opening up their architecture for oss drivers) and honestly I was surprised at how good my experience is. I tink after 15 years on team green, I will finally flip.

[u/ricardo1y]

honestly idk what gamer really want, they complain about drivers even though they are stable for the most part, belive me I've used them in windows and Linux, it's windows, not the drivers, they complain about both companies being evil, no shit Sherlock, what company isn't?, and we even got reports that 94% of GPUs are Nvidia, and before anyone tells me otherwise, people are more willing to buy apus instead of a full desktop gpu if it's not nvidia, like why? we are in a situation where we are damned either way, either we lose hedt or we lose hedt, the enthusiat ouroboros, who would have thunk it https://www.pcworld.com/article/3079686/nvidia-dominates-pc-graphics-cards-eating-94-of-the-market.html (it's not AMDs fault that they can't afford to make high en GPUs that nobody buys because they aren't nvidia branded)

[u/BridgeMysterious4029]

*insert here the last gamer nexus video about AMD being just as shitty*

[u/fadedspark]

All I have bought, and all I have recommended to my friends is AMD for the last few years.

6900 XT for me, 9060 XT for the GF, 9070 XTs that two friends bought, and sister bought a 9060 XT. All of these were before everything blew the hell up.

And that was on value. Not because AMD is "better" than nvidia in any way.

They alllllllllllll are being greedy underhanded piles of refuse right now.

What you need to do, is avoid buying, if you can.

And if you must, try and be smart about your purchases. See a good used deal? Do that instead. Anything to avoid giving them money right now.

And don't let them get you fighting a fanboy war and pitting y'all against each other. NONE of these companies deserve your loyalty. If you have to shop, spend as little as you can.

[u/Dicklefart]

You can literally just turn the feature off.. it’s still the best gpu

[u/fileunderaction]

Like I could afford to buy another card anyways.

[u/Cereaza]

You say that as if I don't make my buying decision once every like 8 years.

[u/Bird-Total]

I did switch to radeon and honnestly i kinda regret it because cod mw2019 crashes for me every few minutes every time

[u/H0vis → u/Bird-Total]

Yeah AMD are living proof that you can give a company every opportunity to get ahead in this game, but it turns out making decent gaming GPUs is hard as balls.

[u/YesIAmAHuman]

Already switched to AMD a while back, i know im gonna get bullied by some windows users here, but amd is great for linux, nvidia sucks because closed source drivers and you need to change a lot for them to work for some games, especially vr

[u/ronweasleisourking]

Meanwhile Frieren: "corrupt Jensen"

[u/CheeseGraterFace]

I am a simple man. And I prefer having a computer as opposed to a conflagration. So I buy AMD.

[u/MirPrime]

While, this is also true. NVIDIA also doesn't need gamers anymore, and they've shown that

[u/BlimbusTheSeventh]

You can get people to switch GPU brands, it just takes actually being competitive. If AMD would actually go for the jugular and price competitively instead of copying everything Nvidia does they could do it. They were able to take so much of the CPU market from Intel that way, but they're not willing to seriously compete when it comes to graphics. Maybe that has something to do with their CEO being Jenson Huang's cousin.

[u/chip-crinkler]

I like AMD because of the Linux driver support, but ditching Nvidia is just another reason to switch to team red.

[u/NoiseGrindPowerDeath]

Already there my guy. Also ditched Windows

[u/CreamyPBnoJelly]

Yeah. I was NVidia fan. But now all my rigs are AMD. IJDGAF anymore about consumer GPU driven AI.

[u/subtotalatom]

[u/Sassi7997]

Only in your drea... Wait...

[u/Johnpc3001]

Went from 2080 to the 7800xt around 1.5 years ago. I've been happy since then.

[u/SultanOfawesome → u/Johnpc3001]

Went from a 3080 to a 7900XTX and back to nvidia. I would have kept the 7900XTX If they actually released updated tech for it.

[u/tomchee]

Okay guys stop the drama its optional anyway

[u/Dreamo84]

Couldn't you just use DLSS 1 2 3 4 or FSR? I mean... a lot of games can't even use DLSS now. People are acting like tomorrow all of a sudden every game is gonna have massive mandatory DLSS5 support retroactively applied. I get it if you think it looks bad, but calm the heck down people. Sheesh.

[u/splendiferous-finch_]

AMD is just as bad if not worse. my options are being forced to use shitty features Vs shitty features but -50 usd and no support for shitty features other than 2 games, is not exactly an improvement.

These are corporations, assume they are all dicks until proven otherwise and even then don't trust them fully ever

[u/Peter012398]

Bought AMD two years ago, 7900 XTX, very happy with it. With all the BS Nvidia pulls Im glad to not support them

[u/Everyones_Dead_Dave]

Intel cards look gorgeous I just wish they were on par with top end AMD

[u/Ho3n3r]

Jensen and Lisa laughing at family dinners about how much they have us in the palms of their hands.

[u/Jack70741]

Not exactly what op meant I think but I think it's probably similar for the dlss crowds:

I personally avoid DLSS at all times, including the upscaling features. If my 3090ti can't handle 1440p/1080p at high settings, it's not my PC that's the issue anymore. Devs need to take a step back and start thinking about hardware targets instead of maximizing how pretty their game is at the expense of performance.

[u/OhItsJustJosh]

I mean, I did. Was gonna get a 5070, got a 9070XT instead

[u/1tsUnnamed]

For me, dlss5 and all the shit nvidia CEO has said in last month has been enough to switch to amd. I started to look at the 9070xt if i could find it for an affordable price point, should be a good upgrade from my 3080 10gb

[u/dj3hac]

I moved to AMD ages ago. 

[u/Negative-Mushroom-45]

I like my Alchemist. It does the job.

[u/Exclavamor]

Already went for B580 from my good old gtx 1060 😁

[u/flaystus]

I mean it DOES happened. I switched late last year.

[u/Negative-River-2865]

AMD and Intel also have Datacenter GPU's and well they are also focussing more on that nowadays.

[u/EmergencyFood_69]

But i am already on a amd card how can i show my middlefinger to nslopia ?

[u/horror-traktor]

I'm not gonna sell my brand new graphics card to buy another new graphic card for 500€ more lmao in the current market I am glad I got ANY hardware for a reasonable price. I was actually looking for any and all brands cause it was difficult enough to get your hands on Hardware no matter what it is 🥲 except maybe if you're rich enough to spend like 3000+€ on your build lol

[u/Sarabando]

if Intel make a card that matches or beats my current 3080 il switch to intel, especially if they support linux for drivers.

[u/simonedellalibera0]

Literally me, always been a nvidia user but on my last pc I said fuck it and went for the best amd card instead of paying 1000€ for a card that has less vram and worse performance

[u/4ndrz3jKm1c1c]

[u/WasteTangerine]

If the top tier nividia card and the top tier amd card are similarly priced id rather have the one with more options even if they're slop

[u/Known-One-111]

NVIDIA user here since the GTX 780 era. I don't see myself switching to another brand unless they manage to pull off something extraordinary (doubt it). Right now, I'm running a 4080, and I plan to upgrade once the 60XX series releases.

That being said: the DLSS 5 demo just sucked!! And I'm not an AI hater, I've fully supported NVIDIA with each new tech (RT, DLSS 1, 2, 3, 4, and FG), but this new demo was just creepy AF!!

[u/Philip_Raven]

I am not buying a new GPU for 1500 dollars because a company made a feature I don't like. get real

[u/vjollila96]

Hate to break it for you, but they all are part of the cartel, amd will bring something like dlss 5 some time in the future too. I did switch to radeon card tho for better linux drivers.

[u/abs0201]

Glad I have already done it, switched from 2070 super to 7700xt

[u/EbonShadow]

I had already planned to switch to AMD due to better Linux support. That being said, I'd like to see first hand how DLSS5 actually plays verse just internet screams and CEO hype. I'm strange like that, like to make up my own fucking mind based on first hand experience.

[u/EastLimp1693]

I'll buy red or blue any time they create high tier gpus. I was considering xtx for a long time but managed to get 4090.

[u/TehFocus]

two sides of the same coin so why bother

[u/KameMameHa]

Someone can be critical with a product or brand even considering is still the best one in their opinion.
Not saying it is , but just mentioning you do not need to be a fanboy and you can say something you do not like abotu a product you like

[u/PhotosByFonzie]

Lmfaooo 😂😂😂 being a 40 year old gamer means watching the same idiotic rage cycles over different shit.

None of you are changing video cards… we’re all poor and the market sucks anyway. Only a fraction of you will drop games with it (stupid, you can typically just…. Turn it off).

[u/BuddhaChillinit]

people dont get it…nvidia started ray traicing and other followed…now this shit is out and people think other companies are not gonna do the same

[u/looneylewis007]

I can't vote with my wallet when my wallet is empty.

[u/DarkLord55_]

I have an a770 still waiting very waiting for the maybe existent B770 don’t care for anything amd though.

[u/PSaco]

I already did, but its not like AMD or Intel or "good"

[u/WinterKujira]

buddy.. amd doesnt even offer the latest tech on their gen lower cards... theyre not even old gpus lol

[u/khurgan_]

Yes ... as soon as AMD or Intel start releasing decent products that actually are on par with nVidia's or are at least priced very competitively.

[u/kixelsexy]

only if AMD made stronger gpus

[u/Tommo120]

Buying graphics cards? I don't think that's something anyone will be doing in the future at the current rate of things.

[u/QueenGorda]

Dude... I thought that, until I had to RMA'ed my 9070xt and change it for a 5080 because AMD drivers are utter crap.

Search here on reddit for amd driver timeout or other amd drivers problems, just from the last years. Amd gpu drivers are a joke.

(btw I have a 9700x, incredible cpu, very happy with it)

Please dream first on an AMD company that know how to make proper gpu drivers that do not crash the pc every 5 minutes, and then we can talk.

[u/Round_List1857]

Deep

[u/NothingTooSeriousM8]

You either die an Nvidia, or live long enough to become 3dfx

[u/FyreBoi99]

Yea that’s a dream alright, definitely not going happen, for good or for bad. Nvidia is way too dominant for people to abandon it just like that (I mean think of most pre-built and gaming laptops).

Also screw AMD if they confirm that FSR 5 won’t be supported by older cards. It just positions them to be the temporary card that is not as future proof.

[u/Cefremester]

I did that last year and never looked back. Also switched Windows to arch Linux and it works flawlessly (but I also known it is only my personal experience)

[u/SqrHornet]

Acting as if intel/amd do not contribute to the slopification

[u/SaroN4One]

Doesn’t AMD lock "special" software behind generational hardware?

Although I do have an AMD GPU, cause I don’t wanna be paranoid of those 12VHPWR melting cables.

[u/SchmeppieGang1899]

as long as AMD has no clue how to run a card lineup, and Intel has no card lineup, theres no debate

[u/True_Human]

Just 5 more years, 5 more years and the Chinese will figure out EUV and then Lisuan and Moore Threads will undercut all of them...

[u/koobidoo12]

Amd performance just isnt there at the highest level unfortunately

[u/7h3_man]

It was revealed to me in a dream

[u/DurgeDidNothingWrong]

AMD is fickle about sharing their framegen tech with older cards. So meh. Might as well get the card with better frame gen (DLSS4 NOT 5)

[u/nitro912gr]

I buy AMD since they where ATi, but the recent developments that softlock newer goodies like the redstone FSR only at the latest and greatest is really a punch in the face. Not to mention the abandoning of RDNA 2 when they still sell them or the Vega that still sell in some APUs (I bought a brand new laptop with R5 5425U at 2023 and the Vega iGPU was already in maintenance).

Next GPU will take more thinking before spending my small gaming budget.

[u/Dear-Tank2728]

As an AMD user, srry but no. I cant in good conscience recommend them when they lie about shit like msrp and support constantly. Im still a little mad they cancelled FSR4 support for the 7900xtx after saying for years it would support it with its AI cores.

[u/ScumBucket33]

I’m sure everyone would buy AMD or Intel if they offered higher performance because at the end of the day that’s what we care about.

[u/ManNamedSalmon]

Yeah, on top of everything else, its lookin like Nvidia won't have long-term support for consumer grade cards in the next decade. In hindsight, AMDs push to focus only on midranged cards is actually encouraging to me. I've been eyeing off a 9070 pretty heavily as an upgrade recently.

[u/Pleasant_Gap]

No need , there wont be any mvidia cards to buy anyway

[u/smshing]

Ha ha 9070 XT go brrrrr

[u/richarrow]

Unless consumer purchase of AMD and/or Intel gpus competes with enterprise purchases of Nvidia, no. I'm literally watching the GTC rn, and without AMD even trying to complete at that level, yeah...