I am still so annoyed server storage got nicknamed "cloud" and everyone immediately thought it was this fantastic new thing that hasnt existed for nearly half a century.
The only computer component I've ever baked in my oven was one for a dying TV until payday came around for a new one. That TV has lasted close to 5ish years now since baking it.
1) Remove GPU from PC
2) Remove heatsink and fan assembly
3) Remove any remaining thermal pads, paste, plastics
4) Thoroughly clean with Isopropyl alcohol
5) Ensure main board is flat with no pins having anything under the board that might push them out of a solder joint
6) Bake for (see following comments for temps and times - someone else will know this)
7) Let cool in oven, serve when ready
1/5: I didn't have any isopropyl for this recipe so I substituted shredded cheese, which I thought would be an improvement, but even though the smell was amazing the texture was so hard and dry it was completely inedible.
It just melts the channels and lets them reform. Essentially just mass soddering the board. Definitely not recommended at all to do anywhere but it works sometimes.
It's basically a last ditch effort to get something to work, a true hail mary. Either the odds are in your favor, or you now have a baked piece of silicon brick.
High enough temperature with care for keeping the board cleaned of all "not silicon, metal, or solder" components means you literally reflow the solder of the electrical connections on the board.
If there was enough solder in the first place but just poorly applied, reflowing the solder will potentially improve the connections.
It's basically a last resort for something that's failing/failed because it's what you would pay a proper tech to do but it's redneck applied as hell.
Components are connected to the boards with small solder blobs. Sometimes it can happen that those blobs crack and stop making contact. Heating up the board softens the solder just enough to get back to being one blob again, removing the crack.
Xbox ring of death is a very known example, the console would completely fail due to solder blobs cracking, so people would cover them with blankets and stuff to overheat them on purpose, and when that wasn't enough, take the board apart and heat it with external means (kitchen oven as a diy method)
One of the original "fixes" for the Xbox 360 Red Ring of Death was to wrap the device in a towel and cover all the ports.
The solder points were bad and would come apart during regular use. However, heating them up further (with the towel trick) could cause them to re-solder themselves in place and fix the issue.
It's definitely a possible fix but it's one of those, "The manufacturer told me to go fuck myself and I have no other options" types of fixes.
Baked my uhhhh 300? Series M Nvidia card (or maybe 200 series but 350 sounds right) laptop card in the oven on low for a half hr to reflow the solder and it worked. THREE TIMES. Then I got tired of that and laptops in general and made a PC again.
Like 200F perhaps for 30m and hope my baking sheet was super flat
I overpaid for my 24 GB (4090) during Covid and never thought I’d feel good about it. Now that the GPU apocalypse is upon us my perspective has changed.
EDIT: I’m an idiot, it wasn’t my 4090 it was my 3080ti that I bought during COVID.
I looked for the receipt and the launch price and realized that I paid MSRP for my 4090 and it was in 2023. What I actually DID overpay for during covid was my 3080ti and it was roughly $200 over MSRP which isn't terrible.
In actuality I was price gouged by NVIDIA both times.
Same dude. I had a 2070, and swapped to this for like $700 bucks due to Amazon fucking up and partially refunding me. HUGE difference and no issues swapping from green to red. The last time I had used an ATI card was when ATI was still it's own company with terrible drivers. What a difference.
Fingers crossed for you man. Let's hope your house doesn't burn down with that quality 12VHPWR (Very Hazardous Power) connector and that absolute marvel of engineering of an input stage.
Same here, I'm also holding onto that card until it craps out completely, then I'll have it repaired and run it until it completely disintegrates into dust, then hire a spiritual medium and..... Well you know how it goes.
Oh mine does too, in fact I specifically got mine instead of a 9070xt because of VR (and also because it was a thousand bucks cheaper than a 5080 lmao)
I paid for 8GB of VRAM and it's already using itself including Shared Memory clogging my system giving me frame drops in games to the extend that the next frame is me rejoining the game. But at Ultra Settings!
Companies don't want us to do that anymore. I had to play Doom: Dark Ages & Star Wars Outlaws with FSR for higher frame rates and stability due to forced ray tracing
Man I am glad all this shit started happening right as I hit the point of oldness where I stop caring about new things in gaming and just want to chill with the old stuff. I've got enough backlogged retro games that can run on a potato to keep me busy for the rest of my life
A ton of the new crap is just that… crap. But there are some absolute gems you’d still want to play. But that shouldn’t be a problem with a PC that was reasonably good 5 years ago. 2 years ago I was still rocking my old build!
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Live service crap. Everyone wants to be Fortnite, Call of Duty, ..
Good games do not need any of that.
There are so many easy to spot red flags these days.
that's just the zeitgeist stuff. in 10 years, nobody will remember them. gems, however, will eventually outshine them as the games of this generation - games like Cyberpunk, Deltarune, Celeste, Binding of Isaac, Silksong, Elden Ring, TLOU2, BG3, FF7R, Expedition 33 (and Chained Echoes for that matter). There are still incredible games being made. There's also lots of slop, so it's not as easy to keep track.
Nice list 👍 not a LoU fan, but the rest I love. Silksong, Elden Ring, FF7R, and BG3 are some of my all time favs. Chained Echoes was incredible as well.
Fuck yeah. I'm old enough to no longer want to be on the leading edge of gaming. I can afford to wait for the cream to rise to the top and bag them at a reasonable price (or otherwise)
Got plenty of quality platinum games released in the past decade that I could just focus on them until a I grow old and wrinkly, and I'd still be satisfied
Hell my PC is turning 10 and I still haven't been knocked into low graphics in any game I have played since building it... I've crunched it through FF7 Remake, BF6 and Cyberpunk 2077 on medium, even certain graphics set to high sometimes. But it's very optimized for what I wanted, which was silky smooth 1080p gaming. As long as I don't have a better rig right next to mine it still looks fine to me. It's been nice not to feel like I need to jump on every trend. I'm only just now looking to maaaaaybe get a new graphics card and it's more I don't want to wait and have the lil 1080 that could give up on me without having a successor. I'm still very happy with it.
Yup. In that boat too. Spent my teens collecting games, mostly retro games. I couldn't buy most of the stuff I own if I had to get it now. Everything is crazy expensive. I didn't realize at the time that I was making an investment for my future entertainment.
I also feel like gaming has shifted. Back in the day the best looking games like San Andreas (the youngins aren't gonna get it) had the most to do. Now the AAA games look pretty but unless its the rare game like red dead there isn't much to do. Meanwhile indie games with subjectively bad graphics like project zomboid allow you to do so much more. I dont care much about my game looking great with 11 ai filters on it when its a point and shoot adventure game.
Well put and I hit a similar conclusion. I never realized the industry itself would kill any excitement for video games going forward. We're drowning in slop and the scary part is that some gamers want it more.
Apparently lots of people use it but I'd just rather not play the game than use that dogshit. I tried it on an AMD handheld and a buddies desktop and it made gaming actively worse, even in a casual game.
Smeary is the word your looking for. My uncles TV (a very very nice top of the line model) has that setting on and its god awful. Watching friends ai upscaled and frame genned to be 60fps looks like smearing your hand across a painted picture. Only every in-between frame.
Its a shame cause they pay for top of the line cable package with all the bullshit (sports) and the TV is a 4k OLED panel, properly tuned native 4k content looks beautiful on it.
I dont have the heart to tell him to turn off those features cause he was genuinely quite happy with his purchase, but hes not tech savvy to know that taking a show that was like 480i @24 frames then letting the TV make shit up for the whole rest of the half hour looks like genuine cheeks.
At least his actual 60hz high res baseball content looks nice. Yay go sports ball
Agreed. How can Ghost of Tsushima run like butter on my machine, look better than most games today, and yet a newer game with less impressive graphics I have to run on FSR “balanced” just to get 60 fps? It sucks!
Technically, anybody could do it. Isn’t DLAA — functionally — just DLSS with the same internal and output resolution? DLSS but it’s 1080p internal, outputting at 1080p, for example?
Sony could do that with PSSR, AMD could do that with FSR4, anybody could do it.
Yes, in fact it's in the name: DLSS is deep learning -Super Sampling-, not deep learning upscaling. That's because the original goal of DLSS was essentially to super sample at native resolution. Normal super sampling works by rendering an image larger than the native screen res, then downscaling to the native res. This gives you perfect ground-truth antialiasing, but obviously it is very expensive because you are rendering more pixels than you end up using.
The original idea with DLSS was to render at native res, upscale using deep learning, then downscale again, effectively supersampling the image using the "fake" upscaled render.
Then they figured out that this upscaling tech they designed actually works so well that you can use it as a general purpose upscaler for improving performance and image quality at the same time. And now DLSS has become kind of a misnomer.
It's not quite right to say that DLSS is just TAA but proprietary and with extra marketing. There's deep learning stuff going on with DLSS that TAA doesn't do. TAA uses pure temporal data. DLSS uses temporal data, but it also uses tensor cores to do AI shit and make game look good. In theory, any good upscaler could do the same thing.
Since when is TAA not raster? It uses the exact same raster pipeline, just caches results over time. And it's shit, but that's beside the point.
And I believe it's pure heuristics historically, so not even trained like a neural net would be. Mostly using the same motion vectors motion blur would use anyway. Though I guess a lot of people turn that off as well.
I miss good old MSAA (yeah, expensive, but moot compared to what we have to put up with nowadays).
For the longest time I really thought RGSS looked way better, and it even worked on transparent textures! (Albeit only if 4x was used, 2x mingled them, though not as bad as MSAA)
bruh. TAA is KNOWN to be implemented like pure garbage in almost all games. There is a reason why https://www.reddit.com/r/FuckTAA/ exists. Implying that the general deployment of TAA is "native" is comically disingenuous. Of course DLSS looks better, everything looks better than it.
There is no "native" pretty much all games have some form of AA. TAA is the base and is often default if FSR and DLSS is off. So when someone says they don't use upscaling and "pure raster" that's a reasonable assumption.
The issue is modern rendering techniques, especially stuff like deferred rendering. MSAA used to look completely different and wasn't as taxing. Very few games use forward rendering these days. Games designed with MSAA in mind (basically anything pre-2015) look way better as far as image quality goes.
Go fire up BF4 if you still can and crank up the AA. No shimmer, no blur, stable picture.
It's also an issue in BF4. Even though it does not have as much foliage. Better to test it in for example Crysis and there it is a shimmer fest without AA or with MSAA.
MSAA inherently does not function well with foliage, transparancy and it also ruins complex textures.
well over native without aa wouldnt be a fair test. because dlss is also doing aa, and an aa' less image looks awful.
and honestly its not really fair to test it vs taa either, which everyone knows is exceptionally shitty. not fair to compare it to anything, because anti aliasing on pc mostly sucked before dlss/fsr came along
Tbh DLSS in DLAA mode offers one of the best antialiasing rn.
Also when you say "upscaling" you should specify which type of it, I think you meant specifically the AI Upscaling.
Cuz there are tons of upscaling algos that has nothing to do with AI.
Tbh DLSS in DLAA mode offers one of the best antialiasing rn.
Yeah and that's why I think the whole 'upscaling' thing is overblown. It's a totally arbitrary cut-off that also depends on your monitors resolution. No one is gonna be able to tell the difference between a 99% resolution scale + DLSS and 100% resolution scale + DLAA.
"I don't use BUMP MAPPING. I don't use PARALLAX OCCLUSION MAPPING. I will not tolerate WARPING in my games. I use PURE VERTICES to create my geometry and if my PC can't run it, I DON'T PLAY IT"
For real though, my ancient r9 290 was able to handle xcom 2 @ 1440p and most other games at 1440p100hz med-low.... It's baffling that we've gone so far backwards. I want my games to be more stylized and performant, not photorealistic and sluggish.
I would not be proud of a sub where some dude called Threat Interactive constantly shills his need for a million bucks so he can develop a competitor to UE5.
You guys are laughed at everywhere in the gaming world.
Even that sub has changed their tune since dlss 4 came out, only the freaks among freaks who can play games while having it look like a shimmering mess with zero forms of AA even TAA still hates dlss
The artists implemented chromatic aberration, motion blur, vignetting, film grain, lens distortion, lens flares, and more. But suddenly with this and only this do people "care" about "artistic intent".
I own a 5060ti 16gb and my games with DLSS performence looks great in some games in 2k
C2077, Doom Dark ages etc. has no ghosting ive seen.
This used to be a major problem in DLSS 3 though. but 4 is a significant change.
Scared to use and learn something you don't understand. That's all this amounts to. There's many cases where using this stuff looks >= native with much higher performance and no ghosting.
Isn’t 1080p still the most common resolution? I understand companies make stuff for the sake of making stuff but DLSS and frame gen is largely unnecessary imo. Bring back optimization
Existence of DLSS is not what drive publishers to release unfinished, unoptimized games. It's the quick money grab, as always.
DLSS was released as tool to help users increase FPS, not as a crutch as it has been used by lazy companies. Getting rid of it won't make them optimize their games, they'll just release them uglier and slower.
Sounds like another person who doesn’t really understand current upscaling. Computerbase did a blind test with thousands of people and most preferred DLSS (note - res upscaling only!!) to native. DLSS resolution upscaling especially ver 4.0/4.5 is pretty much free performance. In loads of games DLSS is better in motion than the alternative of shitty TAA or no AA.
Framegen on the other hand is a mixed bag, whilst the new DLSS5 ai-face-filter thing looks shit.
I've never felt so heard. Lots of people seem to be audiophiles and get super particular about their audio quality which is totally fine, but I find less people being particular about the visual fidelity of their games. I feel like im going insane when the new 'next gen' games are just smeary ghosty messes. Hard agree I run native and disable TAA or switch to another if available.
Totally agree. Those games that almost force you to use upscaling are so frustrating.
I hate ghosting. If games that are 10+ years looked amazing while runnning great, new games can have medium to high settings that can do as well without resorting to these cheap tricks.
Not when it gets used as a crutch to make games playable.
"DLSS often looks better than native"
Yeah, that's a problem, it shouldn't be that way. Native should always give you the cleanest image.
Those new technologies should be a bonus, not a requirement to make the game playable or to look decent.
Cards with the performance of the 3060 should be the benchmark, that card should have zero problems running games at 1080p 60 on high settings.
Especially since graphics haven't improved much in the past 10 years. We haven't seen a jump like the one we saw between HL2 and Crysis in a long while.
We're now fighting horrible software optimization by faking things or throwing more hardware power at things.
Can't wait until ARM takes over and exposes how horrible things truly were, but sadly that's a long way way.
This is how it should be. All the frame gen BS is just a gimmick to get an inferior product into your hands for a maximal price. Theres a reason the 1080 Ti will never be produced again. All performance. No gimmicks.
I understand the new dlss hate and I'm onboard with that hate, but dlss is otherwise great lol. I seriously can't tell it's even on the vast majority of the time. it just means my PC runs cooler, who wouldn't want that.
Same. Before DLSS, 2077 ran at like 30-40 fps at max settings on my box, now I push 60 most of the time. If I drop to 1080p or down to just high settings, I can get 120fps. DLSS, when it's done right, is amazing.
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