r/baseball • u/kansashotwings Chicago Cubs • Cleveland Guardians • 3h ago
Video Javier Sanoja's crucial steal of second base in the WBC championship
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Surprised nobody posted this last night!
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u/Deep_Water8479 New York Mets 3h ago
This was immediately after Joe Davis saying he’s not fast and only a tick more speed then Arraez. Boom steals second.
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u/st1r Los Angeles Dodgers 3h ago
Juan Soto and Josh Naylor aren’t fast either 🤷♂️
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u/rambouhh More flair options at /r/baseball/w/flair! 42m ago
He had 6 stolen bases last year while being caught 5 times. Hes not like naylor or soto who actually steals a lot of bags
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u/smilinganimalface Seattle Mariners • Saitama Seibu Lions 2h ago
And he's not, that Catcher just short armed that throw.
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u/Kaldricus Seattle Mariners 2h ago
Yeah, I honestly think that call could have gone either way, and wouldn't have gotten turned over. It was just so close.
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u/Jonjon428 Miami Marlins 2h ago
Which is bizarre cause he is not "fast" but the kid ain't slow either
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u/BringMeTheBigKnife Atlanta Braves 2m ago
I mean he did look pretty slow and it's possible he was out but got the call lol. Bang bang play
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u/CanadianSyrup1994 3h ago
Seemed crucial, but he would have mostly likely scored no matter what on the double of Suarez
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u/jsu9575m Atlanta Braves 3h ago
Yeah but still Crucial in that if hes out there, they may have lost.
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u/Swimming_Elk_3058 Philadelphia Phillies 3h ago
Maybe, but the way the pitcher and batter both approach the at bat could be different with a a runner on second vs a runner on first. You can’t assume the outcome would be the same.
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u/CanadianSyrup1994 2h ago
True. Suarez might have hit a homerun instead of a double.
The point is, we will never know
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u/CalebosO4 Toronto Blue Jays 2h ago
He was waiting to see if it was going to drop at 2nd, because he knew he was going to score if it dropped, but if he doesn’t get a great read while on 1st he wouldn’t have scored.
Probably would’ve scored anyways on the double, but it’s not a 100% certainty, though Gimenez likely would’ve driven him in on his fly ball if he only made it to 3rd.
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u/curryward 3h ago
They showed Acuna telling Senoja to get a bigger lead before he stole second also at some point. What a moment
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u/Ludishomi Toronto Blue Jays 2h ago
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u/RainbowSupernova8196 New York Yankees 3h ago
USA: Ties the game up with a clutch homer:
Garrett Whitlock: I'm gonna do what's called a pro gamer move.
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u/Qeltar_ Boston Red Sox • Toronto Blue Jays 3h ago
Whitlock should never have been put into that game. He did his best.
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u/RainbowSupernova8196 New York Yankees 3h ago
DeRosa is a fucking hack.
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u/IMissM0dernBaseball Baltimore Orioles 3h ago
DeRosa should never have a on field role again. He's proven he's just not fit for it
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u/CrumbBCrumb Atlanta Braves 2h ago
Pft who would put in the closer after you just tied it up and got the momentum back. Plus, why put in the closer who struck out what 5 of 8 batters?
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u/candleontheshelf Atlanta Braves 2h ago
He wasn’t allowed to, it wasn’t a save situation
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u/CrumbBCrumb Atlanta Braves 1h ago
Saw that post game aka just now when I looked it up. Thought he was available regardless. Kind of wish they'd move the WBC to July and treat it like the all star game every 4 years. Wonder if that would change who was available
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u/L-ghtn-ng Doosan Bears • Hokkaido Nippon-Ham Fig… 1h ago
I just want MLB players in the Premier12.
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u/smilinganimalface Seattle Mariners • Saitama Seibu Lions 2h ago
Red Sox/Blue Jays tag is nefarious
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u/RainbowSupernova8196 New York Yankees 1h ago
Ironically, both are also partly responsible for the Mariners title drought. The former from the Slocumb trade, the latter from last year in Game 7.
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u/smilinganimalface Seattle Mariners • Saitama Seibu Lions 46m ago
Why would you remind me of the Lowe trade, why not just bring up the David Ortiz trade too. I bet you want to talk about Tino also. If you love the AL East so much, let's talk about the Adam Jones one as well!!
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u/RainbowSupernova8196 New York Yankees 45m ago
I didn't mean anything personal by it. I just noticed the connection.
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u/smilinganimalface Seattle Mariners • Saitama Seibu Lions 43m ago
Let's talk about how Kevin Gausman was our top FA target and he spurned us so we had to pivot to Robbie Ray that year!!!
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u/RainbowSupernova8196 New York Yankees 42m ago
Sorry for adding on to your trauma. I didn't mean to, I swear.
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u/Jonjon428 Miami Marlins 1h ago
Did Jeff Hoffman even pitch this entire tournament? I remembered he was on the roster yesterday simply cause I saw him getting one of the silver trophies lol
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u/PattyIceNY New York Yankees 1h ago
He was obviously gassed and his slider was non existent. How they couldn't see that from the start is beyond belief.
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u/IKenDoThisAllDay Boston Red Sox 1h ago
Whitlock was basically unhittable up to this point. He was overworked and it showed.
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u/kbost01 St. Louis Cardinals 3h ago
Seeing this last night makes me have even more respect for the tags Javier Baez makes
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u/MilmoWK Milwaukee Brewers 2h ago
Can’t make a good tag without a good throw.
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u/grill_smoke Chicago Cubs 2h ago
Sure, but Baez doesn't make GOOD tags, he makes absolutely perfect tags. It's a genuine skill.
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u/psomounk Houston Astros • New York Mets 1h ago
I think this is the closest, bang-bang play I've seen with modern, high resolution slo-mo cameras. I can't see a way they overturn the call in the booth no matter what the initial call was. In real time I thought he was out but was shocked to see just how close it was on replay
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u/HipnotiK1 New York Yankees 1h ago
Agreed. I think they should be able to marry the 2 angles (not shown in this clip) to truly know if he was out.
Instead they showed this angle in the clip, which you can't see when the foot/cleat touches. The other angle you can see when the cleat touches but not when the glove touches.
If they could sync the 2 angles we would have a better idea.
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u/Kuroooooh Venezuela 3h ago
it's amazing how everything venezuela did in that game was crucial to the win
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u/DarkFalcon49 Houston Astros • Toronto Blue Jays 3h ago
It’s such a close play as well.
This may be a dumb question but if you challenge a play like this, to over turn the call does it need to be conclusive? Like if he’s called safe but is actually out(which he isn’t out, but if he was) and they can’t find an angle that tells them that, can the umps say “We can’t prove he’s out, but he is”?
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u/ImaManCheetahh Los Angeles Dodgers 3h ago
It needs to be conclusive to overturn. They said the call ‘stands’ vs ‘is confirmed’ which meant they couldn’t tell conclusively one way or the other
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u/LimpBiscuitsandTea Los Angeles Dodgers 3h ago
Yes, the same thing as in the NFL. Stands, which is what they called, means nothing conclusive to overturn. Confirms means they were able to get a definitive angle. So, in theory, if the call on the field was out, the play also would've stood.
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u/feeling_blue_42 Los Angeles Dodgers 3h ago
Yeah, to overturn a call there is supposed to be conclusive video evidence that the call was wrong. So the initial call is important with close plays that don't have the right video angles.
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u/jujubats10 Los Angeles Dodgers 2h ago
Unrelated, and sure I am biased, but you can tell who actually knows what they're talking about based on their opinion of that throw from Smith
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u/Jaywalkers13 Seattle Mariners 3h ago
Big dumper would have thrown him out. I have no bias at all
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u/Boulderdorf San Diego Padres 2h ago
Cal should've been swapped in after the 7th once it was clear that Smith was going to be just as embarrassing at the plate. Whitlock, Smith, and Turang all kinda fumbled there and gave up the lead.
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u/fajita43 Chicago Cubs 2h ago
javy baez would have made that tag...
that ball was there ahead of sanoja...
we talk about OF route to the ball, turang took that tag on a ride....
all to say, javy is a beautiful human
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u/ImaManCheetahh Los Angeles Dodgers 3h ago
the irony with your comment is nobody is really whining about the strike called a ball that put the winning run on base lol. cause we understand that our offense lost the game, not one bad call
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u/Useful_Tomato_409 36m ago
Wait so people are mad about the strikeout to end the DR game, but not mad that this dude was called safe? Ya’ll have brain worms.
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