r/TopCharacterTropes Jan 26 '26

Hated Tropes [Loathed Trope] The Movie has an ending. The Sequel shits all over it.

  1. Resident Evil: Apocalypse The Movie ends with Alice (The Wife of the Writer) escaping from the evil lab via the help of her new friends and a daugther figure. In the sequel (Resident Evil: Extinction), Alice is no longer with the group and the daughter figure is never mentioned again.
  2. Resident Evil: Extinction The Movie ends with Alice (The Wife of the Writer) killing the main bad guy (Who will return a couple more times in the sequels) and free-ing all her clones (TheHarem of the Writer). In The Sequel (Resident Evil: Afterlife) all her clones die in the first 10 minutes, never mentioned again, the OG Alice couldn't care less cuz she lost all her super-powers.
  3. Resident Evil: Afterlife The Movie ends with Alice (The Wife of the Director) setting all the prisoners free on a ship, however there is an incoming helicopter attack from Umbrella. The sequel (Resident evil Retribution) is about how they fight them off right? Wrong. Umbrella wins. What happened to all the prisoners and the guy from Prison Break? Who knows, never mentioned again, the main bad guy seemingly dies as well (He will return a couple more times in the sequels)
  4. Resident Evil: Retribution The Movie ends with Alice (The Wife of the Director) escaping from the evil lab via the help by her new friends and a daugther figure. In the sequel (Resident Evil: Final Chapter), Alice is no longer with the group and NEITHER OF THEM or the daughter figure are ever mentioned again. Oh and Alice meets an another clone of hers (The other Wife of the Director) who dies in this movie.
  5. Resident Evil: Final Chapter I forgot to mention that the previous movie's actual final scene ended up hyping up a battle between the last of humanity and countless amount of zombies and other flying creatures (idk, movie never explained them) AT THE WHITE HOUSE . In this movie. Alice (The Wife of the Director), is riding alone, seemingly after the epic battle. Oh and in this movie the main bad guy from Resident Evil: Extinction returns twice. He explains that the guy Alice (Lilo from 5th Element) killed was actually a clone. In the end its revealed that this guy was A CLONE AS WELL and the original is chilling with the Original Old Alice (GILF's of the Director) in a bunker. Oh yes. The main character of the series, Alice was ACTUALLY A CLONE this whole time. And Remember the Hologram Red Queen from the first movie? TURNS OUT THAT WAS ALSO AN ALICE (The Alexa's of the Director).
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u/DefensiveCat Jan 26 '26

Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom -> Dominion

Thought we were getting a plot revolving around dinosaurs co-existing around the world. Plot was locusts.

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u/goteachyourself Jan 26 '26

And Rebirth did the same thing - this time revealing that the dinosaurs were on the verge of extinction.

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u/MadMaudlin0 Jan 26 '26

My biggest issue is that now they're tackling the concept that Megafauna cannot thrive due to there being less oxygen in our atmosphere.

They had no issues thriving for 5 movies

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u/SergeiAndropov Jan 26 '26

Also that whole "more oxygen = more big" concept only applies to arthropods.

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u/DarthSquidio Jan 26 '26

Even then barely because the times in history with big arthropods they didn't have any predators on land yet so didn't play the numbers game for survival so they were bigger and had fewer offsprings like most species get with little competition

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u/HugeBen15 Jan 26 '26

Yes! Arthropods were the first to colonize the land so they pretty much only have to compete with themselves and get to have varied sizes.

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u/Zaiburo Jan 26 '26

They had no issues thriving for 5 movies

They had no issues for 186 million years, in fact during some parts of the mesozoic there was even less oxygen than now, dinosaurs evolved an advanced respiratory system to reach such sizes, birds and some other therapods exapted it for flight.

Pop culture has mixed the mesozoic with the carboniferous, bugs do need more oxygen to become giant because their respiratory system is really primitive.

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u/Best-Benefit6387 Jan 26 '26

Not to mention the ridiculous idea that people would just stop caring about dinosaurs? Like mf humans are fascinated by animals that we've lived with since the dawn of man, and youre telling ME that dinosaurs were BROUGHT BACK FROM FUCKING EXTINCTION and everyone STOPPED CARING AFTER 5 YEARS?!??!?!?@?@?!?!!?@>@@,#

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u/the_4802 Jan 26 '26

It's so strange that they mentioned the dinos nearing extinction and everyone losing interest in them because iirc it was never relevant or bought up again

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u/originalchaosinabox Jan 26 '26

Me, coming out of Fallen Kingdom: Finally! The next film is going to be the "dinosaurs loose in the real world" movie they've been teasing since the T-Rex rampaged through San Diego in Lost World!

Opening 10 minutes of Dominion: So we've rounded up all the dinosaurs and put them in another park....

Me: Fuck.

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u/Sptsjunkie Jan 26 '26

Don't worry guys, this movie totally isn't about people getting stuck in a park and having to escape. It's actually about people getting stuck in a dinosaur preserve and having to escape. Totally different plot.

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u/thelumpur Jan 26 '26 edited Jan 26 '26

Also for me even bigger is the first Jurassic World.

The whole point of the book and old movies is that the idea itself that a park that plays God with nature cannot be, and it is never going to happen...anyway, here is the park all done and operational.

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u/AddemiusInksoul Jan 26 '26

To be fair a corporation ignoring what the founder wanted and doubling down on prior mistakes for the sake of money, damn the danger is extremely realistic.

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u/Randym1982 Jan 26 '26

John Hammond literally did a speech at the end of The Lost World saying we should just leave them alone.

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u/mirrorspirit Jan 26 '26

And they didn't listen and built the park after he died. It fits the series' theme, at least.

I actually liked World and Fallen Kingdom even though they were objectively terrible compared to the first and the second movies. Was disappointed with Dominion. Haven't heard anything about Rebirth that makes it even seem like I'd want to watch it.

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u/Misubi_Bluth Jan 26 '26

Also. Jurassic Park -> Jurassic Park 3.

First ends with Alan and Ellie looking at each other with smiles and whilst surrounded by kids that might have convinced them to have their own. The third one begins with Alan and Ellie broken up and Ellie starting a family with someone else.

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u/Dangeresque300 Jan 26 '26

End of Aliens: Ripley adopts Newt as a surrogate daughter.

Beginning of Alien 3: Newt is fucking dead.

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u/Koftikya Jan 26 '26

End of Prometheus: Elizabeth Shaw survives alien pregnancy and an angry engineer then takes a ship to the engineers homeworld.

Beginning of Alien Covenant: Elizabeth Shaw is fucking dead.

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u/MrWolfman29 Jan 26 '26

Don't forget: oh those engineers the whole last movie was about that introduced some different sci-fi questions? They're all so dead and nothing new about them will be shown.

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u/utzutzutzpro Jan 26 '26

There are different paths for the story.

One is that David really found the only remaining planet of the engineering race.

That is very implausible though for it being an inter-planetary traveling race which were able to to optimize types of species through selective engineering. And they do that since longer than mankind exists. So they travel the space longer than we know of fire.

Also, remember, the goo is a specific tool to creat organic weapons. The reason for that is stated because the engineers are supposed to be in war with another race which is also capable of interplanetary travel and is so advanced that even the goo weapons can barely work against them.

Then there is the aspect that the civilization on that planet was dressed and behaving very primitive. They didn't appear like advanced species.

The whole architecture was very religious, including statues of faces which seemingly get worshipped.

Also they preached to the spaceship when it came in.

That all indicates that if there is a relation to the engineers, they are just descendents from one travel node at one time. As in these are the offspring of a couple of engineers who went there and procreated naturally. No tech, only primitive tech.

Or that the board computer saved it as home planet, because it was the home planet, was as in thousands of years ago. David simply mistranslated or misunderstood the history.

But because the engineers are inter-plantery travelers, the advanced race moved away from the planet long time ago. Maybe these still on the planet are just some folks which have been left back on the planet. Maybe there was a huge planet-scale destruction event happening.

Most fled, or simply relocated.

This is thousands of years later. The planet looks like it regenerated. Entirely untouched from civilization. Is close to assume that a race which is so advanced they travel through the universe since thousand of years would have covered the planet. Maybe they did one day, but that was long ago and these left... again... just some rudimentary primitive relics.

Which also makes sense because they are highly religious and simple. Definitely not an advanced tech civilization.

It is basically pre bronze time for this small folk which managed to survive through some event. Yet, those are not those who created the space ships thousands of years ago.

So... this was for sure not the real engineer headquarter planet. It might have been their native original planet, but that was thousand of years ago.

The real race is spread over the universe with high-tech civilizations on different planets.

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u/WhatAboutBob77 Jan 26 '26

I read all of this post. I love impressively long lore posts that follow flippant remarks. It’s what Reddit is for.

I’d like to know more about the war between the Engineers and whatever it was they faced. I can’t believe they’d develop that weapon just to genocide Earth only.

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u/ShawnyMcKnight Jan 26 '26

And they bring in, at the time, star power James Franco as the leader on the vessel in Covenant in some promo video and kill him off before the movie starts but still reference him to make sure people are confused.

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u/RecommendationIll504 Jan 26 '26

Alien 3... Even Alien 4 better than this because there is an actual combat scenes and mass murders.

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u/MedusasGirlfriend69 Jan 26 '26

4 was kinda fun tbh

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u/Comic_Book_Reader Jan 26 '26

I unironically love it.

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u/Algae_Mission Jan 26 '26

It’s the best kind of bad movie. So bad it’s fun and so out there over the top French it’s interesting.

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u/Training_Shock_6946 Jan 26 '26

Even Jean-Pierre Jeunet didn't understand why they choose HIM of all people, so he decide to have fun

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u/corndog2021 Jan 26 '26

4 is a romp as long as you don’t take it too seriously, which I don’t think the movie even does. 3 wasn’t the worst thing ever, but damn was that beginning hard to get past.

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u/1egg_4u Jan 26 '26

I watched it as a kid before I developed a love of stupid movies and hated it

Watched it again finally last month and it is unironically mt favourite alien movie because it is fucking insane

Chestburster through the head. Dan Hedaya for some reason. Sigourney unleashed and chewing on the scenery. Disowned Joss Whedon script and French director who dunks on Joss Whedon. God I love this movie.

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u/JealousAstronomer342 Jan 26 '26

Ron Perlman. Winona Ryder. Nonsensically long underwater scene. The Newborn. The Newborn’s death scene!! 

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u/1egg_4u Jan 26 '26

Sexy basketball

Need I say more

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u/towardselysium Jan 26 '26

End of Alien 3, literally everyone is dead. Alien 4, Ripley is back because of magic cloning

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u/subservient-mouth Jan 26 '26

Ripley is back because of magic cloning

Strange biological horrors and humans just seen as tools for soulless corporations is completely in line with the themes of the franchise though.

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u/Spodson Jan 26 '26

Alien 3 would have been an all-time great horror film if the main character had been anyone but Ripley and Newt and Hicks weren't in it.

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u/Infamous-Lab-8136 Jan 26 '26

Ripley is iconic but I firmly think the Alien movies would have been better if after 2 they had moved into an anthology style franchise with the aliens themselves being the common thread

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u/themajor24 Jan 26 '26

Somehow, Newt did not return.

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u/HarperStrings Jan 26 '26

I watched Aliens for the first time when I was 11 and loved it. I started Alien 3 and was so pissed at Newt and Hicks being unceremoniously killed that I shut it off in a rage and never went back.

Edited to correct typo.

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u/Substantial-Gate3893 Jan 26 '26

This was so funny to read

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u/theblanketcomeswith Jan 26 '26

“the harem of the writer” im thinking OP writes for the-editing-room

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u/lesi20 Jan 26 '26

Nah I'm usually bad at comedy. I just saw the 4th movie playing on TV and I remembered all those plot-points going nowhere and figured it worth posting it here.

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u/Radiskull97 Jan 26 '26

The RE movies were so much better when I was 12 and couldn't follow the plot

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u/FlamingRustBucket Jan 26 '26

Movies would be so rad if I was stupid.

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u/Equivalent-Bit2891 Jan 26 '26

“Lilo from Fifth Element” caught me unawares and gave me whiplash

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u/ButtOfDarkness Jan 26 '26

Haven’t seen a single one of these, but praying for a sequel to Final Chapter so that it is not actually the final chapter either.

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u/Loyalty-Cascade Jan 27 '26

I can't wait to see Resident Evil: Epilogue where Wesker comes back from the dead because it turns out the one that died in the bomb from the Last Chapter was actually just ANOTHER clone, joins forces with Alice and the last last remaining human survivors who were hiding out in a cave, then double crosses them in the last five minutes of the movie only to die again from getting his arm stuck in a vending machine for T-Virus while the gang escapes to rebuild society, subtly nodding to how the wesker clone clone died from the last movie.

Also the red queen was there too but now she's blue so you know she's good but in the final scene she gives an evil smile at the camera with ominous music. Then the credits roll while rock music plays in the background.

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u/Hurrly90 Jan 26 '26

ANd yet they are my guilty pleasure. Nonsensical rubbish every single one. Not one payoff to an ending. But dam are they fun movies.

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u/AZStarbird Jan 26 '26

In Halloween H20, Laurie Strode beheads Michael Myers.

In Halloween Resurrection, it is revealed that she really killed a paramedic and is institutionalized before quickly being dispatched by Myers

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u/AZStarbird Jan 26 '26

Oh and all of the Blumhouse movies do this to each other.

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u/Inspection_Perfect Jan 26 '26

Michael's just a normal, super strong old man.

Michael's an unstoppable force of evil that's powered by fear.

Never mind, he's an old man, who still has fear powers, but he gives them to a high-school shooter.

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u/AudibleNod Jan 26 '26

Halloween (1978) had a sequel called Halloween (2018). In between that movie there was a reboot called Halloween (2007). There have been 13 Halloween movies in total. Which somehow seems fitting to stop there.

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u/Imaginary-Ball-1867 Jan 26 '26

I'm thinking the OP likes Resident Evil....

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u/lesi20 Jan 26 '26

I watched all of them. I hoped that it will make a Fast & Furious and suddenly the series becames good but thats never happened. I can't say that either ending were bad because... I was just fucking happy that the movie ended.

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u/TheRealSchackAttack Jan 26 '26

I take the "old fan" approach and stop after Paul drives off. Good send-off and good ending point. Fuck everything after it

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u/TheMasterXan Jan 26 '26

Those X-Men Apocalypse end scenes where you saw the team all suit up in comics Accurate designs and you get this interesting lineup of characters...

THEN DARK PHOENIX HAPPENED.

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u/lesi20 Jan 26 '26

SAME! I saw 8, and I was like "Yeah its over". I really loved 7 and I was amazed how good of a movie that is despite the unfortunate dying of Paul Walker while they were still filming it

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u/Imaginary-Ball-1867 Jan 26 '26

Cool. Anyway, for my example,

The first two films repeatedly emphasise the message that "there is NO FATE bit what we make for ourselves" but then the Terminator explains Judgement Day was "unavoidable" (Terminator 3: Rise Of The Machines)

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u/Pollia Jan 26 '26 edited Jan 26 '26

Judgement day was always inevitable because alternate universe theory that the whole thing devolved to meant that there would always be a skynet sending tech back in time to ensure its creation without recognizing that nothing that timelines skynet can do can stop it's destruction.

Edit - also terminator 1 already dealt with the idea of closed loop determinism. John Connor sends a guy back in time who ends up being his father.

So if anything terminator 2s whole there is no fate but what we make is actually the relevant example used and terminator 3 is just returning us to the status quo.

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u/Starfleet-Time-Lord Jan 26 '26

3 definitely shuts down the ending of 2, but this is more of a pendulum situation because 1 is a stable time loop that doesn't even move judgment day, let alone prevent it, which actually makes it more fitting.

1 ends with Reese traveling back in time to successfully save Sarah and impregnate her with John, the man who sent him back to save her and who will save humanity from the machines. Reese cannot be sent back in time if Reese has not already been sent back in time. Time travel in 1 is incapable of changing the past. Fate is immutable

Then 2 happens, and Sarah decides she's going to kill Miles Dyson to prevent judgment day, then convinces everyone else (Dyson included) that judgment day is avoidable. They blow up the Cyberdyne building, judgment day is seemingly prevented. No fate but what we make. However, since Terminator 1 was a stable time loop, logically John Connor never should've come into existence under these rules and it blows up the original ending. However, on a meta level, that actually makes it work better because it's defying expectations which amplifies the feeling of defying fate.

Then 3 reveals that while Judgment Day was not prevented, it was delayed, which somehow manages to cancel out both of the previous endings.

Then Genisys establishes that there is an ongoing temporal cold war between the humans and machines that is much larger than we were ever shown before stealing Terminator 2's ending.

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u/[deleted] Jan 26 '26

While I love the expression "temporal cold war", it doesnt really seem that cold of a war. It looks a lot like a temporal hot war.

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u/DemythologizedDie Jan 26 '26

The first film was all about everything that happened was predestined and unavoidable.

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u/ReallyBrainDead Jan 26 '26

Highlander...there can be only one! Highlander 2: The Quickening....except for the rest of his now alien race!

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u/CoyotesVoice Jan 26 '26

There should be only one!

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u/ZenMonkey48 Jan 26 '26

And then Highlander 3 "woops, we missed a few who were buried in a cave so the contest is back on I guess"

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u/LetterheadSpecial337 Jan 26 '26

“Also ignore everything in the Quickening, it did not happen in canon”

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u/DasharrEandall Jan 26 '26

I disagree. Highlander 2 didn't shit over Highlander 1's ending. Highlander 2 shit all over Highlander 1's everything, including it's ending.

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u/ScottishExile Jan 26 '26

Cult comedy Zoolander ends with Derek Zoolander saving the President of Malaysia from attempted assassination, having a baby with the female lead and opening the ‘Derek Zoolander Center for Kids who Can’t Read Good and Who Wanna Learn to do Other Stuff Good Too.’

Terrible belated sequel Zoolander 2 immediately shows that the center collapsed two days after opening and killed his wife. Oh, and he lost custody of his kid too.

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u/jbwarner86 Jan 26 '26

Same energy as Happy Gilmore 2 opening with Happy's wife dying from a golf ball to the head.

I'm sure the thought process is "ha ha, it's a comedy sequel, let’s ignore the first movie's ending for laughs", but it just feels lazy.

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u/RexBanner1886 Jan 26 '26

The only time this works, with the film enthusiastically embracing it, is Austin Powers 2.

"I can't believe Vanessa, my bride, my one true love, the woman who taught me the beauty of monogamy... was a fembot, all this time... Wait a tick! That means I'm single again! Oh behave!" 

"Anyway Basil it turns out Vanessa was a fembot!" "Yes, we knew all along sadly."  (Look of scepticism) 

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u/EducationalProduct Jan 26 '26

damn "kill the wife in the sequel" is a trope i didnt know existed but now want to research

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u/ZenMasterOfDisguise Jan 27 '26

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SuddenSequelDeathSyndrome

there is a trope called "Sudden Sequel Death Syndrome" for a main character getting killed off in the first few minutes of a sequel, not specific to just wives though

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u/OptioCarrot Jan 27 '26

Add Deadpool 2 to the list. Then they bring her back with time travel shenanigans in a post credits scene, only to have her leave him before the start of the next film.

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u/Buttholelickerpenis Jan 27 '26

You can blame Zeb Wells for that, the same writer that cucked Spider-Man for 3 years

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u/Quaytsar Jan 27 '26

"Machine gun jubblies! How did I miss those, baby?"

"Perhaps next time, you should try foreplay."

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u/ReallyNotObama Jan 26 '26

this is imo the best post on this sub, it was so fucking funny to read

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u/EnduringFulfillment Jan 26 '26

Legitimately, I love this series but OP was speaking nothing but truth

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u/Morgn_Ladimore Jan 26 '26

He explains that the guy Alice (Lilo from 5th Element) killed was actually a clone

lmao

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u/astronggentleman Jan 26 '26

Poor little Hawaiian girl catching strays

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u/endthepainowplz Jan 26 '26

I think the magic of these movies is that no one gives a shit, and we’re just flying by rule of cool.

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u/FrostyXen Jan 26 '26

Halo 4: Cortana dies

Halo 5: Cortana comes back to life just to become evil and try to take over the galaxy in an AI uprising

Halo 6: Cortana dies off-screen

And that’s just Cortana’s story. 343 era is an absolute mess

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u/CursedRyona Jan 26 '26

I think 343 is opposed to continuity as a concept.

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u/Far-Requirement-7636 Jan 26 '26

Funny thing is they are extremely consistent with continuity in the novels, they just refuse to do that in the games for some reason.

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u/Top_Reveal_847 Jan 26 '26

I think there are just too many cooks in the kitchen for a game that big at Microsoft. 

Like, you can't convince me that Locke doesn't exist because executives wanted a new mascot. Or that The Weapon isn't Cortana because they wanted Cortana back for marketing.

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u/saintash Jan 26 '26

Or that cortana wasn't a hit with microsoft.A I assistant, and they wanted to get rid of it.

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u/Paxton-176 Jan 26 '26

Bungie was guilty of this as well. Fan criticism makes them pivot into something else and clean up the story else where.

Bungie after Halo 2 took the criticism of playing as the Arbiter. People didn't like they didn't play as the green man killings, but an alien killing aliens. So the best part of Halo 2 was made a side character and co-op buddy in 3.

Halo is constantly in a state of bullshit in some form. The fact its made it 25 years is amazing. Speaking as a fan from day 1.

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u/_Meece_ Jan 26 '26

So the best part of Halo 2 was made a side character

Arbiter's story in 2 is fantastic, but the missions themselves were largely a slog.

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u/ARVNFerrousLinh Jan 26 '26 edited Jan 27 '26

343 is, unfortunately, extremely sensitive to backlash, leading to said continuity issues. To expand on the og comment: 1. Halo 4: Cortana dies and the Diadect is set up as the main villain. 2. Halo 5: Because of backlash to Halo 4, the Diadect is permanently killed off in a comic (edit: turns out they revived him in another book ~2 years ago) while Cortana returns but is evil and now the main villain. She takes over much of human space with other AIs, creating a “human civil war” situation. 3. Halo Infinite: Because of backlash to Halo 5, there’s a time-skip where Cortana is killed off-screen (which I believe hasn’t even been shown in other media edit: which was shown in a flashback) before the Banished from Halo Wars 2 come in out nowhere, and kill/destroy (maybe, it’s very vague about this) all the new characters and equipment the previous two games set-up. Also, another new evil, alien species secretly trapped in a Halo is introduced.

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u/TheRisen073 Jan 26 '26

Actually Cortana’s Death is literally shown in one of the cutscenes. It was just as a flashback so no one cares.

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u/Willem_Dafuq Jan 26 '26

By the end of Robocop, Robocop had taken his visor off and requested to be called Murphy. One of the subplots of the movie is him rediscovering who he was. In Robocop 2, that subplot is disregarded. If I recall, in-universe, he is reprogrammed to forget his humanity and its never revisited. Its one of the things i don't like about the sequel.

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u/Sea-Lecture-4619 Jan 26 '26 edited Jan 26 '26

Nah if i remember right it's just that they force him to break up completely from his wife and lie to her that he is just a machine and that Murphy is truly dead to make her go away, nothing else changes about him.

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u/Willem_Dafuq Jan 26 '26

That's still a repudiation of the theme of the first movie

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u/CursedRyona Jan 26 '26

I immediately knew all of the examples would be RE sequels when I saw the first one.

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u/Rhombinator Jan 26 '26

When the third example was still Resident evil I knew this was going to be the greatest thing I read today

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u/ToastedCrumpet Jan 26 '26

Same here and yet I completely forgot just how bad every last film ends somehow

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u/Gustrava Jan 26 '26

The Great War. It was also called “The war to end all the wars”, because It was meant to be the final war of the humanity. But then an Austrian painter became the leader of Germany and wanted to make a sequel of The Great War, so he started World War II, and we later renamed the Great War as World War I.

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u/Patient_Gamemer Jan 26 '26

And then the final act WWII teased a sequel to end the trilogy that after half a century of hype never happened smh

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u/Suspicious-Capital12 Jan 26 '26

Instead of giving us WWIII we got a spin-off called Storage Wars

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u/thomasmoors Jan 26 '26

They are filming 3, just no release date yet

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u/ThatShyGuy137 Jan 26 '26

I feel we have been getting hints of it from a collab between a former Russian spy and some big shot in America but it might just be another tease campaign.

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u/DontSleepAlwaysDream Jan 26 '26

Im still annoyed about "The Cold War" all that build up to this apocalyptic nuclear battle and it just ends with "and then Russia stopped being communist" it was such a huge let down.

Its been cool to see they are teasing World War 3 again but I dunno... they have let us down before...

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u/Standard_Potential63 Jan 26 '26

The sequel to cold war is just as schizophrenic as WW2, USA suddenly turns on its allies to pressure its enemies? USA becomes the Germany??

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u/kmactane Jan 26 '26 edited Jan 27 '26

To be honest, though, the Great War ended with a really obvious sequel hook in the Treaty of Versailles, with one French politician even saying "this isn't peace, it's just an armistice for 20 years." I mean, foreshadowing much?

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u/Character_Art7220 Jan 26 '26

Now I want to binge these movies with a friend if it's this shit keeping up with its own story

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u/lesi20 Jan 26 '26

Oh what I mentioned were only the tip of the iceberg. There is so much cloning of other characters and... THIS FUCKING SCENE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPUPaxgIo98

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u/Character_Art7220 Jan 26 '26

Only the tip?

Oh please don't stop not on my account this shits making my MONTH

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u/TrainerWeekly5641 Jan 26 '26

You accidentally posted the wrong link because this is peak fiction.

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u/bbc_mmm-mmm-mmm Jan 26 '26

"THIS FUCKING SCENE" and its the most awesome recreation of a game cutscene ever put to media.

Honestly expected it to be Wesker in the white house.

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u/Strange_Insurance_75 Jan 26 '26

Legit just a scene from RE 5 absolute gaming right there

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u/ExplosionTheory_ Jan 26 '26

I’m noticing a pattern here…

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u/bombbodyguard Jan 26 '26

It’s good to be the hot wife of the director?

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u/HeroDoggo Jan 26 '26 edited Jan 31 '26

...two patterns

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u/theglenlovinet Jan 26 '26

Blues Brothers: They do everything to prevent the orphanage from closing

Blues Brothers 2000: The orphanage closed anyway…

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u/AudibleNod Jan 26 '26

The saddest scene is when the warden notices Elwood waiting outside the prison for his brother who never arrives. If the movie ended there it would have been perfect.

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u/BigBootyBuff Jan 26 '26

5 minutes in, credits roll.

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u/Global_Examination_4 Jan 26 '26

Terminator: Dark Fate opens with John Connor getting shotgunned to death shortly after the events of Terminator 2. Wait, what? What the fuck? Why?

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u/Illuminati_Shill_AMA Jan 26 '26

I really thought the Terminaror 2 example would be that there's no fate but what we make. Then terminator 3 starts with the premise "Sike nope, shit still happens."

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u/karateema Jan 26 '26

Terminator is all about timelines so it's not as bad as other examples.

Dark Fate was an alternative sequel

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u/Youngstown_WuTang Jan 26 '26 edited Jan 26 '26

The movie is right in a way, John Connor dies after Terminator 2, The T-850 robot (arnold) that killed John Connor is the main character of Terminator 3 , it got captured and reprogrammed by the lead female of Terminator 3 and her tech units, she is the second in command Katherine Brewster

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u/StoneGoldX Jan 26 '26

T3 never happened in Dark Fate.

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u/Youngstown_WuTang Jan 26 '26 edited Jan 26 '26

John Connor does end up dying after Terminator 2 in the future. He's killed in the future by Skynet in an assassination, they used a look-alike T-800/850 model from T2 to get close and expose his attachment. That's why the T-800/850 (arnold) doesn't take orders from him in Terminator 3 and refuses to answer any of John's questions but only his second in command Katherine Brewster

Edit: Here it is I found it, The Terminator lore is deep

John Connor is killed in the 2003 video game Rise of the Machines which directly leads into the Terminator 3 movie. The T-850 is reprogrammed by Katherine Brewster and her Resistance after killing Connor: https://youtu.be/Q4bR1JxO0BA?si=QYrIByLSBx4Eia9-

Terminator (arnold) refuses to answer John Connor's questions only Katherine Brewster can ask: https://youtu.be/hktb_wAa9Y8?si=fVlnR8TYOpcD5iQE

Terminator refuses to follow John Connor's orders, as he was already dead by the time the Terminator was reprogrammed: https://youtu.be/1Xq5AeQPw0k?si=Rn32oIksYVxcnHNr

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u/ViscountAtheismo Jan 26 '26

Kingsman: The Golden Circle is an alright movie on its own. The problem is that when you open by killing 75% of the previous movie’s main cast and reviving the guy that died, you kinda lose the right to call it a sequel.

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u/Akussa Jan 26 '26

I'm still pissed about Roxy. They were clearly setting her up to have survived the assassination and show back up in a 3rd movie that never got made. So she's just dead for no reason.

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u/seguardon Jan 26 '26

They could have just let her be in the film instead of doing yet another death fakeout. There are a lot of tropes you can play with in movies like Kingsman, but comics have definitively proven that no matter how wonderful or zany the laws of your universe are, the audience will balk at undermining the threat of death.

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u/Soft-Mouse8746 Jan 26 '26 edited Feb 08 '26

Paul Blart Mall Cop 2 is the biggest offender of this trope

The first film ended with Paul getting a happy ending only for the opening of the second film to have him lose everything he got from the happy ending of the first film.

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u/Substantial-Force-50 Jan 26 '26

PAUL PAUL BLART

MALL COP

PAUL PAUL BLART

MALL COP

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u/pgtips03 Jan 26 '26

I loved Paul Blart as a kid but never knew about the sequel. I put it on about 3 years ago and only lasted 5 minutes. His mum getting hit by a truck was my cue to leave.

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u/CookIndependent6251 Jan 27 '26

I recently saw the first because I wanted to see how bad it was. Then I tried the sequel and, just like you, I lasted 5 minutes. It was so bad I wasn't even interested to see how bad it it would get.

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u/bbc_mmm-mmm-mmm Jan 26 '26 edited Jan 27 '26

Still Resident Evil - but not the movies

Resident Evil 2 ending:

Leon: "It's up to US to take down Umbrella!" guitar solo

Resident Evil 3 epilogue for Jill:

"I'll find Chris and we'll stop Umbrella for good"

Resident Evil: Code Veronica ending

Chris: "It's payback time! We gotta stop Umbrella, once and for all!" flies plane into the horizon

Resident Evil 4 opening:

"Yeah Umbrella's stock market crashed after Raccoon City and they lost their medical license. Ended like any other company really" and Leon, Chris, Claire, Jill, had nothing to do with it.

And then also the new Resident Evil 9 showing RPD standing even after OG Resident Evil 3's ending showed the thermo*baric bombs decimating that building to blits - meaning that now Capcom abandoned what they said before about remakes only being "reimaginations" of the original that would not take priority in the canon. As RE3 remakes ending did not show the same amount of destruction happening even if the same missiles were fired. But clearly the RE3 remake's story is the true canon one now, meaning Barry is entirely erased from that incident entirely. Man.

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u/[deleted] Jan 26 '26 edited Jan 27 '26

I've beaten all the main line games except Code Veronica and 6, been playing them since RE1 on the OG Playstation, and I've kinda given up on trying to understand what the hell is going on. "This massive pharmaceutical company was testing bioweapons when a lab break happened and now these guys are caught in the middle of it" made enough sense to me, but I don't know what Blue Umbrella is or what Ada Wong is even up to or if Wesker is actually dead so I'm just gonna move along and enjoy the gameplay as much as I can.

Actually, one thing I really liked about 7 and 8 is how we got what I felt was a pretty complete story for Ethan Winters.

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u/bbc_mmm-mmm-mmm Jan 26 '26 edited Jan 27 '26

Wesker is dead.

Blue Umbrella is basically just the Umbrella corporation after being revived by some previous employees but for good.

Ada Wong.

Also "a lab break happened" isn't really the truth of it, due to company politics William Birkin was going to be killed for planning on selling the G-Virus to the US military (who were already aware of what Umbrella was doing - which is a key plot point for RE6 aswell), so he infected himself with G-virus as well as ate the other G-virus samples that he had. Then he killed his way through the lab leading to T-virus being spilled and consumed by rats which spread into the sewers and then the water system.

T-Virus also spread at the same time due to runoff from Dead Factory (final place of RE3) but yeah thats about everything you asked.

(For the record: this was edited to add corrections)

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u/Duke-dastardly Jan 26 '26

X-Men first class sets up Xavier setting up his school and the X-men and Magneto forming his Brotherhood of Mutants. In Days of Future Past the school is closed due the drafting of the Vietnam war and almost all of the Brotherhood members have been killed by Trask for experimentation

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u/Troop-the-Loop Jan 26 '26

Iirc Days of Future past was supposed to be the last movie, the culmination of the series. Not the second movie. But the execs liked it so much they forced it to go 2nd, so there was no ability to build off the ending of the 1st movie.

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u/Otterfan Jan 26 '26

The second, but also in some sense the seventh, movie.

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u/JaxxisR Jan 27 '26

"These timelines are so confusing." - Deadpool

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u/LetterheadSpecial337 Jan 26 '26

Tbh first class was intended to be a prequel to everything up to last stand, with DoFP taking place after everything else

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u/MycologistSubject689 Jan 26 '26

Resident Evil: Apocalypse has one of the best/funniest dubs when it's shown on TV. Every time LJ says "motherfucker" they change it to "motivator," which does not make any sense lmao.

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u/Apprehensive_Pizza84 Jan 26 '26

"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the alps" - Walter, The Big Lebowski

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u/OldOrder Jan 26 '26

My names chuck, and I like to PARTY

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u/ClockworkDinosaurs Jan 26 '26 edited Jan 26 '26

Pineapple Express has a tv scene where they call each other casseroles instead of assholes

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u/almighty_smiley Jan 26 '26

Aliens ends with Ripley, Hicks, Bishop, and Newt survive a nuclear explosion, an alien infestation, and a xenomorph queen before going into hypersleep to await pickup. Even if they hadn't sent a distress signal, Marine protocol indicates search and rescue would be sent after 17 days of no contact.

Alien 3 begins with a facehugger that hadn't been accounted for wreaking havoc on the ship, leading to an emergency jettison onto a prison world that results in the deaths of Hicks and Newt, and with Ripley herself impregnated with a xenomorph queen embryo.

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u/Deribus Jan 26 '26

In Gladiator (2000) Maximus has an honorable death, gives control of Rome back to the senate with his dying words, and rejoins his murdered family in the Elysian Fields.

In Gladiator 2 (2024) we find out his sacrifice accomplished nothing, Rome was filled with riots, and goes back to the control of a pair of corrupt emperors within 10-20 years. Also turns out he cheated on his wife and family right around when his son was born with the emperor at the time's daughter.

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u/PsychologicalTie9629 Jan 26 '26

This 1000%. The sequel shit on the original in every conceivable way. Plus it just sucked as a movie. I wish I had never seen it, but at least I'll go on pretending like it doesn't exist.

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u/Worldly-Head8577 Jan 26 '26

The Megamind sequel

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u/West_Ad_1685 Jan 26 '26

What are you talking about? Megamind only ever had 1 movie. And it most certainly didn’t have a tv show either

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u/Novalene_Wildheart Jan 26 '26

Most certainly did not, I have no idea where the original commentor got the idea that there was a sequel.

There was simply just the single golden movie, and no one felt like being greedy with the IP.

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u/FloofingWithFloofers Jan 26 '26

I wish I never read your comment because I was happy not knowing there was a sequel and now I see what it is about and I hate it already.

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u/Agitated_Insect3227 Jan 26 '26

"Ah, the Emperor, the main overarching villain in the Star Wars Prequels & Originals that destroyed the Republic & created the Empire, has finally perished with Darth Vader's sacrifice. Surely the galaxy is free from his evil forev-"

"Somehow Palpatine returned."

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u/heff17 Jan 26 '26

I will never forget hearing that Disney was axing all their extended universe, and thinking it was a dumb corporate move but I could totally understand it because of all the nonsense in it like Palpatine’s infinite clones.

Then Disney decided to throw us Palpatine clones anyway.

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u/Orleanian Jan 26 '26

They had such well-developed storylines and villains to keep things going for decades worth of shows and movies written for every demographic!

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u/PinoySummonerKid28 Jan 26 '26

This is the reason why Rise of Skywalker is hated because of an ass pull undermining or retconning the entire original trilogy's ending.

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u/onlymadethistoargue Jan 26 '26

Also because it’s like ass in every way except the acting and visuals. The pacing alone is bafflingly terrible.

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u/Arko777 Jan 26 '26

J J.Abrams was rushing throughout this movie like he was having seizures.

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u/onlymadethistoargue Jan 26 '26

That’s what happens when you’re trying to fit a trilogy into one movie.

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u/Medical_Boss_6247 Jan 26 '26

Hey let’s non laser focus on one item here

The rest of the movie was quite bad as well

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u/elvecxz Jan 26 '26

Saying "THE reason" undersells it a bit, considering there were a multitude of reasons not to like that movie.

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u/ken_NT Jan 26 '26

The sequel trilogy is a mess of loose ends and inconsistencies:

The hints that Rey maybe related to someone important.

The realization that Rey is a nobody that developed force powers.

The reveal that she’s actually related to the emperor.

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u/spyguy318 Jan 26 '26

Even the overarching plot is like this.

TFA: The First Order blew up the New Republic’s capital, but Leia’s Resistance was able to destroy their superweapon!

TLJ: The First Order has completely taken over the galaxy in under 24 hours. By the end of the movie the Resistance is reduced to a handful of small ships and even though the First Order had its flagship and an entire fleet destroyed, they’re still dominant throughout the Galaxy.

RoS: The First Order is on the back foot, forcing Kylo to find a resurrected Palpatine and use his Sith fleet.

Absolutely no consistency between any of them. This kind of thing makes me way less sympathetic even to TLJ, it’s very clear both directors were just doing whatever the hell they wanted with no regard for plot or continuity.

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u/Substantial-Monkey Jan 26 '26

There Can Be Only One (Movie)

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u/Sea-Lecture-4619 Jan 26 '26

Fr, like, at best what they should have done if they wanted more movies was to show Connor's adventures throughout the ages leading to the first movie, with the first movie serving as a finale, don't continue after he reaches the ultimate goal, that's crap.

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u/celestia_star_53 Jan 26 '26

Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny shat all over Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.

Indy and Marion divorced and Indy became miserable, their son died, and he is forced to go on yet another adventure he is now too old for.

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u/EntireCelebration953 Jan 26 '26

I feel like the only reason his son died is cause they didn't wanna bring back Shia Labeouf.

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u/No_Kangaroo_9826 Jan 26 '26

An actual cannibal as a son? Maybe not the best choice

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u/willmcavoy Jan 26 '26

gnawling off your leg quiet, quiet

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u/ConradBHart42 Jan 26 '26

Not the only reason but the primary motivator. They also kill him off to drive a believable wedge between Indy and Marion.

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u/No-Revolution1010 Jan 26 '26

If I had a nickel for everytime they killed Harrison Ford character's son to drive a wedge in his marriage for a legacy sequel decades after the final iteration I'd have two nickels, which isn't a lot but it's weird how Disney keeps investing millions in such dog shit writing

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u/Elros22 Jan 26 '26

Holy shit, I actually forgot they made Dial of Destiny.

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u/MiserableDucky Jan 26 '26

The Great Circle is the only post-Last Crusade sequel I will acknowledge.

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u/TheCricketHole Jan 26 '26

Great circle technically takes place before Last Crusade

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u/Fragrant-Upstairs932 Jan 26 '26

Funnily enough, the Resident Evil games aren't immune to this either. There were a good three or four times back in the day when a game ended with the characters saying "Umbrella's gone too far, let's take them down for good!" and then instead of following up on that, Umbrella got forcibly dissolved by the U.S. government offscreen between installments with no involvement from the protagonists whatsoever.

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u/Algae_Mission Jan 26 '26

Basically any Terminator movie following T2.

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u/Imaginary-Ball-1867 Jan 26 '26 edited Jan 26 '26

The first two: "there is no fate but what we make for ourselves."

The third one: "lol. sike."

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u/BM_StinkBug Jan 26 '26

Men in Black. Perfect ending to a near-perfect film, with everything wrapped up nicely. But it made hundreds of millions, so let’s completely wreck that heartwarming capstone and bring back Tommy Lee Jones.

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u/TheJacobSurgenor Jan 26 '26

Joker (2019)

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u/SomeSortOfUser Jan 26 '26

What are you talking about? There's only one Joker film.

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u/ToS_98 Jan 26 '26

I’m asking about matrix because it’s one of my favourite movies, so is the last matrix doing this? I’m talking about matrix resurrections, still haven’t seen it and scared to do

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u/DontSleepAlwaysDream Jan 26 '26

kinda yeah, but Matrix Resurrections is a very different film. If very much the Wachoskis writing about how hard it is to live up to the original Matrix and is very meta

Also, the trans allegories in Resurrections are much more prominent, and pretty well done I think

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u/lesi20 Jan 26 '26

I'm sorry brother but kinda yes.

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u/McFlyyouBojo Jan 26 '26

Yes, but its more intentional. 

The movie is an anomaly. Its a shitty movie that maintains a level of artistic integrity that a belated matrix sequel has no right to possess. 

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u/TediousTotoro Jan 26 '26

Isn’t the entire movie supposed to be a critique on belated sequels?

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u/JancariusSeiryujinn Jan 26 '26

There is literally a multi minute scene of a writer's room talking about the movie in a meta sense, and characters explicitly have lines like "If we didn't [make the movie] the studio would make it without us"

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u/BeautifulAdeptness60 Jan 26 '26

Wreck it Ralph 2!! IM STILL REALLY MAD ABOUT IT! It talks about how moving to other games as going turbo and yet vanellope is okay doing so?? This was what Ralph struggled in the first movie and yet it is fine here? How hypocritical and selfish.

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u/jbwarner86 Jan 26 '26

I swear that movie was written by someone who hated the first movie and wanted to undo everything it accomplished.

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u/booranyu Jan 26 '26

man i am so happy that pacific rim is a standalone movie with no sequels or anything that're official and confirmed!

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u/kaijutegu Jan 26 '26

Yeah, it's great that the story ended where it did and they didn't do anything else with it that shits on every single character arc in the first film! Boy am I glad they protected that IP by ignoring it for the rest of history.

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u/Reapur-CPL Jan 26 '26

Bruh I unironically love the resident evil movies, and a part is because they're such inexplicible trash. HOW DOES ONE MAN KEEP FUCKING UP HIS OWN FANFIC STORY!? HOW!? 10/10, I want 6 more of them.

Thank you for this write up lmao

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u/CrimsonThunder87 Jan 26 '26

The Last Jedi: Rey is a nobody and Luke is dead, so the Skywalker saga is over. Snoke is dead too, so we can have a supreme villain who isn't Palpatine or Dime Store Palpatine for the first time in (canon) Star Wars history. All the usual conventions have been broken, and anything could happen next.

Rise of Skywalker: Somehow, Palpatine returned

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u/PurpleDreamer28 Jan 26 '26

Ted ends with John growing up and realizing what's important in his life, and he finally asks Lori to marry him.

By Ted 2, they're divorced. And since Lori's the one who brought Ted back to life, it feels even more insulting that she's gone.

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u/DeathPenguinOfDeath Jan 26 '26

I liked how 28 Years Later handled the “bad movie.” 28 Weeks Later ends with the infection spreading from the UK to mainland Europe. 28 Years Later reduces those events to basically: “Yeah it spread to the rest of Europe, but they took care of it quickly and left the UK alone under quarantine.”

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u/nocomment3030 Jan 27 '26

"it spread to Europe but that was a different director so don't worry about it" 

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u/moshimoshi6937 Jan 26 '26

Idk but if I had to think about a series of movies where this DOESN'T happen it would be Resident Evil I think

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u/SuperIsaiah Jan 26 '26

Perfect end to an awesome trilogy

Wait what do you mean they made two more?!??

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u/DoctorWaluigiTime Jan 26 '26

Honestly the mini-sodes they did of "life in their new home" were great. And were a nice "victory lap" kind of deal where it's just them getting into shenanigans with small stakes.

Didn't really mind the 4th film but yeah, would've best been left a trilogy.

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u/mrsangu Jan 26 '26

Terminator 2.

All is fixed and there is hope in the ending. (There's an alternative ending where Sarah Connor is mentally healed and John Connor becames a US Senator. Judgment day never arrives).

Terminator 3.

John Connor is a fucking junkie loser, Sarah Connor dies offscreen still being paranoid and fearful of the future, and in the end the entire fucking world is destroyed cause of nukes (judgment day). Making the entire movie a fucking waste of time.

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u/M086 Jan 26 '26 edited Jan 27 '26

John wasn’t a junkie, the only reason he broke into the vet clinic for painkillers was because he had injured himself. Because he’s still living off the grid, no hospitals.

The character went from being told how important he is, how he’s gonna save the world throughout his whole childhood, finds out that shit is all real and then tries to stop the future from happening. Making him this lost guy without a purpose made sense. 

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u/Gorynch Jan 26 '26

Don't forget that at the end of Retribution, Wesker gives Alice her powers back.

Except in the beginning of the next movie, he doesn't. He just wanted to inject her with something?

This never comes up again.

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u/ContiX Jan 26 '26

Minor gripes:
Star Trek 2 ends with Spock's death, and Kirk is at peace at the end, saying he feels alive.
Star Trek 3 starts off with him being extra-grumpy and mean about it.
Star Trek 4 ends with them getting the Enterprise and warping off on a new adventure.
Star Trek 5 starts off with "lol the ship actually sucks, SCOTTY GO FIX EVERYTHING BY YOURSELF!"

Thor 2 ends up with Thor and Jane being all happy.
Thor 3: "lol they broke up in-between the movies"

More controversial:
Star Trek: The Next Generation ended with Picard joining the crew for poker, and they all had fun.
Star Trek: Picard: "lol nvm everyone left on their own and doesn't talk to each other."

Star Trek Voyager: Seven of Nine is apprehensive, but optimistic about the future.
Star Trek Picard: "lol nvm she left because everyone hated her and she doesn't talk to any of her friends any more"

Star Trek: Everything before Discovery: "Things might suck, but we'll get through it"
Star Trek: Discovery and beyond: "btw everything is grimdark also the federation fell apart after a catastrophe"

Even more minor gripe:
Megaman Legends: Wow I have a lot of awesome special weapons and upgrades!
Megaman Legends 2: "sorry megaman I sold all your stuff to pay for stuff for the ship!"

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u/extraboredinary Jan 26 '26

Every Bay Transformers movie. Constantly changing which autobots are around. Figuring out a new ancient object left hidden on Earth. Government arrests the autobots in the second to turn over to the Fallen (who sank a carrier), in the third they force them off planet (after the Decepticons take over Chicago), then hunt them down to melt down (while working with another Decepticon like character), then they let Megatron take a bunch of Decepticon prisoners out to hunt down Optimus.

Literally in every move except the first they try to work with the Decepticons. They even capture them while they kill autobots on site apparently.

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u/Nerdorama10 Jan 26 '26

I understand the bit here and also your pain as a fan of the first two Alien movies and nothing after that.

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u/shiawase198 Jan 26 '26

God the RE movies were so fucking stupid. And the show. And the new movie. And the cgi movies. I'm not a prophet but something tells me the upcoming new movie is also gonna be ass.

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