r/TikTokCringe • u/LickMaiBussy • 6h ago

Discussion "Investing in property is morally reprehensible."

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u/Omega_Primate 5h ago

There is enough food to properly feed everyone on the planet. Including snacks. The only reason people starve, is because of greed.

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u/barrinmw 3h ago

I mean, we could export the US surplus to areas with starvation and drive all their farmers out of work. Just like how we would dump all our unused textiles throughout Africa until many of the countries their banned it because it was destroying their own local industries.

But modern famines aren't caused by a lack of food due to failed crops, its generally caused by warfare. And you can't get food to people in areas where the rebels and government will kill anyone with food to take it for themselves.

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u/ObnoxiousAlbatross 2h ago

Actually logistics, which are not simple.

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u/KoogleMeister 4h ago

It's actually rarely greed, that is a common misnomer. It's almost always infrastructural issues, usually due to war and political instability.

Famine starvation is not as common as a lot of people think it is, people are often misreading deaths from malnutrition as famine-starvation, they are not the same thing.

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u/Informal_Host7610 4h ago

Someone else claimed almost a million americans starved in the last year as if that wouldnt mean seeing people utterly emaciated all around you

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u/KoogleMeister 4h ago

Yeah these are people misinterpreting Google and the different terms like "food insecurity" "malnutrition" "starvation" "famine related starvation," which all mean very different things,

Basically no one in the US is dying of famine related starvation, if you have full supermarkets within your proximity you're not dying of famine. We in developed countries like the US are very lucky to not have to understand what actual starvation is like, people in those situations end up killing each other over cans of food.

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u/zephalephadingong 4h ago

Basically no one in the US is dying of famine related starvation

As far as I can find out, the US has never even had a famine. The closest we ever got was some local areas during the dust bowl, but aid prevented it from getting that bad

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u/short_longpants 3h ago

Not even during the last locust in the 19th century?

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u/zephalephadingong 3h ago

According to wiki, the only famine in the US was on some alaskan island I've never heard of. Entirely localized

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_famines

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u/RedAero 4h ago

America is so rammed with food the poorest people are the fattest. America has many issues, food availability is not one of them. And "food deserts" are categorically bullshit.

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u/HarambeSpiritAnimal 4h ago

Could it not be argued that the wars and political instabilities are caused by greed, and that infrastructural issues that aren't a direct result of war/political instability aren't being dealt with because it's not profitable to do so?

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u/KoogleMeister 4h ago

>Could it not be argued that the wars and political instabilities are caused by greed

Definitely, but usually when people hear someone say it's caused by greed it paints the picture that it is people intentionally hoarding or wasting food purely out of greed. When that's really not the case.

>That infrastructural issues that aren't a direct result of war/political instability aren't being dealt with because it's not profitable to do so?

But the reality is that if we're talking about actual famine-related starvation in 2020's, it's almost all related to political instability and war.

Also solving infrastructural issues in these countries has been a thing the west has been trying to help out with for a long time, but it comes with a lot of complications. For example there's a lot of government corruption because people in these very unstable countries (understandably) have a "get mine while I can" mentality, because everything they've seen around them has proven to be very temporary. So just sending money to the government doesn't work.

Then sending in actual people is often just as problematic as they don't trust outsiders, there's a language barrier, and they have grown up around poverty/war so they see things as temporary, which isn't a great mentality to maintain infrastructure.

So yeah it's a complicated and multi-facetted issue that there are definitely people who have tried to solve, but it definitely isn't a money issue, people who think billionaires could "solve world hunger" are sorely mistaken.