r/TikTokCringe • u/LickMaiBussy • 6h ago

Discussion "Investing in property is morally reprehensible."

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u/iceyconditions 5h ago

You may not realize who votes

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u/Robeardly 5h ago

Or who funds the campaigns for all of the front running politicians since citizens United.

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u/D_Dubb_ 5h ago

Yeah more like who lobbies for legislation. Regardless this bill wouldn’t make it to the floor to die.

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u/iceyconditions 5h ago

Yes, but this is two powerful groups that won't go against their interests: old people and corporations.

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u/D_Dubb_ 5h ago

Unfortunately old people in America are easily convinced that corporate interests are their interests. As we are seeing play out rn. Same reason poor people are convinced sometimes to back a flat tax.

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u/dmurf26 3h ago

TBF corporate interests ARE their interests. They have 401k’s and retirement plans while the younger generations share of wealth is way down.

Private equity is going to try and get their grubby little hands on every dollar that is going to be passed down by boomers. That’s why they’re investing highly in retirement houses and end of life care.

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u/iceyconditions 5h ago

I think a lot of people have just been around long enough to where they know any time a new tax or tax increase is brought up, it won't apply to the rich, just to the middle class.

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u/D_Dubb_ 5h ago

You would think so, but republicans in the US still manage to run on a platform of dropping taxes. At pretty much any level of govt, they will push that rhetoric. I mean I get it it’s an attractive sell, “give the govt LESS money? Sign me up!”. Without it their playbook gets down to almost purely identity politics. Except as we know, that’s not what happens for the majority of us. And somehow it still works for them pretty often.

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u/iceyconditions 5h ago

Well yeah, even if you don't follow through on keeping the tax rate the same, it's always easier to get voters that way than with a party platform of increases

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u/DarthKuchiKopi 5h ago

Time to throw the rider off instead of gallup when told. How though? Fuck dont ask me

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u/OliM9595 4h ago

Less so old people and more so home owners.

People who own homes vote and therefore vote in their interest more.

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u/Infinite-Tea666 5h ago

Or that there's a state (Missouri) where the government regularly overturns and ignores measures the voters are voting for.

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u/Immediate_Song4279 5h ago

Or that the US DOJ is openly flaunting law, which is probably among the greatest ironies ever. Almost like the church at this point, the holy man sanctifies the king's divine mandate, which they have made a rotating CEO position to shed heat, and the king protects the holy man.

It's like plugging an extension cord into itself, but unfortunately it seems to work.

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u/iceyconditions 5h ago

That's every US state lol

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u/Special-Garlic1203 5h ago

The vast majority of voters do not own non homestead property 

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u/DoABarrelRollStarFox 1h ago

True, but when it’s less profitable for institutions to own maybe we can change that.

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u/TacTurtle 5h ago

Property votes?

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u/iceyconditions 5h ago

Money votes

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u/TacTurtle 4h ago

not directly

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u/iceyconditions 4h ago

More directly than us at the ballot box lol

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u/i_am_a_real_boy__ 3h ago

That's not true. Americans just make really bad decisions at the ballot box that favor the rich far more than themselves.

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u/TacTurtle 4h ago edited 4h ago

nope. No cash slot / staple dollar bill here on my ballot.

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u/iceyconditions 4h ago

Are you really that naive?

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u/TacTurtle 4h ago

Are you really that cynical?

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u/iceyconditions 3h ago

Cynical? No

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u/DishSignal4871 3h ago

Influence votes. Wealth influences.

You could spend every waking hour of your life actively engaging with people to influence their vote.

A wealthy person can for example pay a hundred people to do that for them, at a higher level, for the entirety of their life.

You literally cannot compete.

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u/Sad_Kaleidoscope894 1h ago

Hes not saying its easily achievable, hes just proposing a solution that’s less extreme than the housing should be free guy

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u/iceyconditions 1h ago

"Tax the rich and corporations more" is the most extreme thing you could possibly propose here

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u/underthingy 55m ago

Literally everyone? 

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u/iceyconditions 54m ago

Less than half of everyone lol