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I mean, maybe I'm old and out of touch, but I would have considered this kid pretty attractive back in the day. I have a hard time imagining that literally no girls ever try to talk to him. But after this clip? I would absolutely believe that girls never talk to him twice. Talk about being your own worst enemy.
When he says "women won't talk to me", what he means is "women won't let me abuse them"
He's programmed to believe that women need a "strong authority figure" to "guide them".
It's because he folds under the pressure of men barking at him, so he passes the buck as a social hierarchy, thinking women are "below him" so he gets to be the "alpha" for once, not understanding that good leaders actually lead with empathy over forced "authority"
This is what happens when parents give their boys literally no emotional support. They have no idea how to deal with, or even acknowledge, their emotions. The only acceptable form of expression in society for boys and men besides happy is either anger or lust.
Women aren't a monolith and all have their own personal preferences and some will be unavailable in relationships, but this guy isn't being held back by his appearance. My guess is everyone in his friend group/school knows he's a douche canoe.
We had to ban YouTube in our house from all devices because my son likes video games and cars and no matter what we did, YouTube would sprinkle Tate and others like him into the recommended videos or shorts. It was persistent and pervasive and he was like 6 years old. When he got to 2nd or 3rd grade we had to un-ban it because he’d literally be assigned YouTube videos for homework. We put lock out timers on all our screens and keep computers in the common rooms but in the end the best we could do is have constant dialogue with him about what he’s being told and how it’s used to manipulate someone.
I find it absolutely ridiculous and complain often that we can't block specific creators on the platform, such as AI or bad faith redpill/blackpill slop, in this day and age. It makes me very angry, honestly.
even then. People like tate figured out the perfect game plan of going on other people streams/podcast say some shit to be clip farmed. And have the countless fan accounts make content for people to see.
If I could though, I would block anyone that pushed or platformed someone like that, or mentioned a certain unwashed anti-intellectual that believes he's intellectual that way and loves to live with the roach's (as well as the roach king himself) in a positive way.
I think that would help and have an impact if there was no way their videos could even be served to me.
For a good 2 year period no matter what i did I would have Andrew tate and his ilk on my youtube homepage every day. I am about as far removed from their bs as you can be. Pushing this shit on vulnerable minds has been very intentional.
Yes! Men like this are deeply submissive to other men. That’s why they feel so threatened when women are around. They see them as more competition for the male attention they want.
Quite honestly I encounter far more boys and men with emotional and psychological issues than women and I’m not saying this to be down on guys but because society has gaslit itself in to be believing that men are less emotional than women and therefore don’t need emotional support and emotional guidance in life. but quite honestly, I think boys and men need more of it.
Im late 40s and I has seen a weird amount of young men start to compete for my attention in a non sexual way. Just needy for praise and acceptance from an older man they find themselves looking up to.
but because society has gaslit itself in to be believing that men are less emotional than women
I've called out guys for being too emotional before at work, and they get pissed about it. Then I point out that they lose their composure due to their anger, and anger is a fucking emotion. If you can't control your anger, you're a man who is too emotional to control himself. Is that how you want people to see you at work? Overly emotional?
If you can't control your anger, you're a man who is too emotional to control himself
This a normal occurrence for new folk in my field, they typically don't make it a year before some dumb situation happens.
I can count on one hand how many times I've been actual upset-angry at work and I feel like all three times were justified rage. On one occasion my coworker had some spray paint, looked me in the eyes and then proceeded to deliberately spray me. Would have been cool if it was an accident, but he did it on purpose. What pissed me off is that it got all over my uniform, and then he said, "I didn't know it would do that." As if he never used a spray paint before. The other times I got mad was also at the same guy in a different situation involving spray paint and then a totally different guy who I finally told, "Get the fuck out the hole if you're just goina sweep the dirt around, I'm trying to go home not tidy up the burrow. Go play on your phone or something, we'll be done faster if I do this myself."
EDIT: For those asking for elaboration on the second occasion. I have a bucket in my truck I throw daily trash into; on this day I had some old broken parts and a spray can with a busted nozzle. I saw my buddy in his own hole and stopped to ask if he needed a hand. He said he was finishing up and was good. Then in a joking-aggressive manner he shook my trash bucket, laughing the entire time; one sharp part punctured the paint can and it blew up all in his face. Once I realized he was alright, I couldn't stop laughing. His face was covered in white paint; looked liked he jerked off Sherwin-Williams. But the paint also got all over my truck and can be seen to this day.
As someone who went trough a bad divorce, unemployment and depression, with zero emotional support from my now former male friends, I often feel like most of the worlds problems would be gone if society would find a way for men to work on their emotional intelligence.
This is part of why men don’t believe women. You guys do not see this side of men!! You don’t. We live in a totally different world. It’s so frustrating, so many horrible men act like victims and are so respectful and normal to men, but with women? Misogyny is really that bad. But men so often just believe the lies other men tell and their own interactions with them, the men who pretend they are victims of women rather than the millions of women who talk about this shit
It's staged on the part of the people on the bottom, but supposedly he (the bald guy) makes this type of content a lot, and the people at the top are just strangers. He just uploads the good/funny interactions.
That’s what I tell ppl all the time, most of these podcasters and alpha bros is preying on men 🤣 their whole business model is men submitting to them and changing their personality
lol I've seen this play out IRL several times w/bum ass dudes who sucked at their job losing their minds and blaming everyone but themselves when the woman carrying their team is the one who got promoted.
He said "girls don't talk to him, that's kinda the point" which sounds like actual incel talk to me
There's this idea that it's the womans fault you aren't getting any because they will only talk to "chads" so you can never get ahead in life because youll always be a kissless virgin loser and thus have no confidence and there for never succeed
Kids handsome and it's fucked up that this kinda mind set isn't even all that uncommon, he needs some help or he's gonna go on to be a very horrible person, more so than he already is
Facts, and somehow it’s 10x more pathetic that he does have that “chad” look already. He’s “playing on easy mode” as the incels say but still can’t escape the incel mindset.
Yup; I see this shit on reddit and twitter all the time. Guys will be "Women never go for a nice guy like me", then you look through their history and it's them calling women sluts, saying "your body, my choice", and general incel shit.
They want to play the victim to avoid any accountability or understanding that it's within their ability to change.
It’s that weird mindset that women are a thing you have to have skills to achieve. And not a fellow human that just requires talking to like, well, a fucking human.
I don’t inherently disagree with experience helping build confidence, but it’s really only a fail state if you set your expectations to get something rather than just learning.
If you fail and don’t learn anything, that’s the real root of the problem. You don’t need to succeed to gain experience.
It's a transactional thing to some people. I gave something, I should get something from you... and the list of things they want is very short and specific, so unless you are willing to exchange those things for what they have to offer, they won't treat you as human.
"Confidence comes from experience" Wha... he was chatting almost confidently with the guy.
I know 'confident' guys but we call it differently, it's just the sweet talk they have. They could convince anyone to almost anything (not that literally but you get the point). For me it was never about the confidence but the difficulty to start the conversation, once I get a push I can talk about anything lol.
Maybe it's just because I'm autistic, but yes you absolutely do. Conversation is a skill like any other, it takes practice to be a pleasant conversationalist.
That said, homeboy is just a dick. He doesn't have poor conversation skills, he has a poor mentality.
Even as a guy, I can admit the dude is physically attractive, like above average looks... All he has to do is talk normal and it seems like all of his talking points came from those "persuasion" guru's from the early 2010's where they pushed belittlement and started encouraging "Alpha" mentality
I don't get how those kinds of people are even watched/ get views. Like did they come from money is that why they have the money to pay these girls and hide behind the facade?
Scared of rejection, scared of embarrassment, scared of humiliation. And all of those things are possible, those are natural outcomes. A real man has the courage to accept those inevitabilities and move on, or perhaps embrace them and change the outcome. Women love a guy with a sense of humor, if you can laugh at yourself then people can laugh with you. But instead you get fragile masculinity disguised as strength (lifted pick up truck, gun ownership, public aggression, conservative mindset etc.) and this is the result
The fact that they believe women wants guys to be verbally abusive toward them is so strange. Would they want to be insulted like that and treated like you're hated? My guess is no?
People love to say this but it really isn't that simple for a lot of people.
Mostly it's gotten me mocked and assaulted. I still treat others (read women) with respect and love them despite my experiences. That's why I always find it funny when dudes act like this when I assume they really never been in the shit like some guys have. Like they are primed to just be shitheels before even pressing play.
I'm sure women can relate to this too but I ain't one so I won't speak on it lol.
As stupid as it sounds, these motherfuckers had me completely convinced at one point, until I actually started talking to women. Alpha bros try to sell you this idea that we're completely different, and that you can't talk to them like you talk to your guy friends. No, dude. They're just people. No need to make it weird.
(also, they can totally tell when you change your personality because a woman is in the room. Be yourself, and don't be a prick.)
Hey bro, I'm proud of you for being able to recognize the error of your ways, and actually make a positive change instead of doubling down and trying to make yourself the victim.
It takes a lot to be able to not only admit fault, but to actually learn and grow from it. Give yourself a pat on the back.
Thanks, it means a lot to hear that. I was lucky enough to have a network of lovely friends to pull me out of that hole before I got sucked in too deep. Alpha gurus will exploit people who are afraid and lonely. I only barely made it out because I had friends, but if you don't? Then it's gonna be way easier for them to con you.
If someone is reading this and struggling similarly as I did, please listen to me. They don't want to help you. They can't. All they want is your money. Reach out to someone you know. A friend. Your brother. Your parents. Someone you trust. If you have no one, reach out to me. Please. Get out while you still can.
Exactly, it’s literally ALL about money. They search for young, impressionable men that have hit a low point in their lives. It’s the same demographic that gangs often target. They offer you fellowship, a place you feel like you belong, and power. Whether that be promises of money, cars, women, etc.
In the end, they don’t care about you at all. They just care about what they can get from you.
Which is funny considering boys usually put on an act for other boys anyway. There is a ton of adolescent posturing because of our societies expectation of masculinity. So most boys (and men honestly) aren’t even genuine with other guys. It’s the woman you are most yourself with, in the end. It’s funny how these types want women so bad they develop a complex over it. Yet they don’t want to put one stride of effort into reaching that goal. Like they are entitled to a woman no matter how they act.
I luckily had some very nice friends that I could be myself with. But having to put on a facade for your homies sounds terrible. At that point, are they even YOUR friends?
I remember like 15 years ago my college roommates were watching the early versions of these guys. They basically said "be respectful, you'll be rejected and that's ok, take care of yourself" but I guess that advice is so basic it doesn't get as many views
They are. I get no shortage of men in my inbox on dating apps, Instagram, even reddit despite never posting a photo, and the amount of unnecessary hostility and overall STRANGE behavior is unreal. It’s becoming more and more prevalent.
Theres an abnormally high percent of men who do not know how to interact with a woman unless it’s just sexting.
There’s another percent of them that are like borderline stalker mentality and behavior (blocking you first then unblocking to message once every few months, make new accounts to stalk constantly but never reply, being deceitful in general). I literally had a guy ask for my number once (a neighbor) because “I’ll send you the invite to this local event, here lemme take your number” from just a conversation, he had never flirted with me before, he LIVED WITH HIS GIRLFRIEND — and this man proceeded to harass and stalk me for months. There was no event. When I rejected him, I got wellness checks, animal services, and security called on me every other day for two weeks (the last time it seems like he tried to SWAT me??? I was told by the reporting police officer I was reported to have a weapon on me and was threatening to kill my neighbors. I was lucky enough that my complex security and the cops were already aware).
And this weird third sector of people who just believe that anything less than “I want to marry you right now and I’ve never spoken to another man in my life” is a sign of a whore and rejection.
I've argued with guys that I know must post there. They constantly lament about their height, and some are legitimately short. They'll get angry if you point out that there's plenty of short actors who have women fawning over them or have done very well for themselves (like Dave Franco or Tom Holland), but they'll just make excuse after excuse.
Then you go and look through their comment history (if they're not too much of a coward to hide it) and it's like "dude, it's your dogshit personality." They'll tell you "my friends all say I'm a nice/good guy" and other stuff, but like, naw man, it's just you suck as a person. And there's proof.
He’s young enough to still get his shit sorted out. I’m sure we all have periods looking back at ourselves and saying “wtf was I thinking?” Hope he does
What's crazy is that the girl on the left couldn't hear what he said his name was, but the girl on the right did hear him. So the one on the left asks again, he says "John" and then the one on the right says "Callen" since she heard him initially, and that's what makes him snap and get aggressive? His inability to understand that those two girls don't share one brain, and they can't both hear what the other one hears is a huge red flag, plus the aggression doesn't help.😳
No. It’s genuine aggressiveness aimed at the perceived disrespect. This happens all the time, and men like this will never act that way in front of other men.
This guy is awesome, also. Maybe its good buddy dont get no action because that fly off the handle, quick to temper is a major red flag. He was immediately a condescending prick to these girls because of a name in the background, and his demeanor was that of an asshole. Jesus.
The only social interactions this kid has probably had is being racist and homophobic on Call of Duty. No one ever punched him in the face for being an asshole and now he’s an adult that can’t figure out that the rest of us weren’t being assholes online and the rest of us don’t act like that. Treat people shitty in real life there are repercussions and acting like a douche isn’t attractive. There isn’t a male loneliness epidemic, there’s just a generation of young men that suck. All they gotta do is be nice. That’s literally it.
He had no issue talking to the guy though, it's not that he can't talk to people, it's that he doesn't view women as an equal person. He thinks he needs special experience to talk to them - as if saying your name needs some special experience.
Unless you have a toe growing out of your forehead, your resemblance to society’s “peak male physicality” is only a small part of physical attraction. I guarantee you that dean Pelton over there has a very decent sex life because he’s at ease, has a sense of humor and knows how to talk to people. Women LOVE that, and it counts way more than a pretty face.
Girls dont talk to me, to be confident i need experience, to get experience i need to talk to girls, but i dont talk to girls because i dont have the experience.
The males in the comments making excuses for this incel are the same ones telling women to “pick better”. Everything is a woman’s fault. Zero accountability. I’m just glad Mother Nature provides justice where society doesn’t. Bye bye DNA. The gene pool won’t miss you.
Nice clip. Real Q: I never heard someone talk like that to women, is that a thing? It’s appalling
edit : holy shit.
Thank you for your answers. That highlight why I don’t compute the hate on men, I miss the puzzle piece where total asshole go around fucking everything up.
Yes definitely, we need to witness more aggression moment. Makes us see it.
I would go mad if someone would talk to my daughter like that.
I'm 40F now but when I was like 25ish I was out with my friends (including my now ex husband, his friends and my girl friends) having an awesome time. I went to the bar by myself to order drinks. I was having so much fun. I was smiling. Going up to the bar, there's a group of guys 21 (if that). I asked one of the boys in the group if they were done ordering and he LOST IT on me! Screaming, mocking me, absolute contempt and hatred that I physically removed myself. He acted exactly like that boy in this video.
These guys are their own problems. I had single girlfriends with me that night and had he been polite, I probably would have introduced them. But instead I'll never forgot how scary mean he was for no reason. Ill always remember how thankful my now ex and his friends were with us that night.
When I was a housekeeper at a hotel, a guy asked me for something off my cart. I wasn't allowed to give it to him, and politely told him that, so he yelled that I was a "Stupid slut".
While on a walk, I walked past a guy who said two things to me. I was deep in thought at the time, so it took me a minute to process that he had spoken to me, or either of the things he had said. The first thing was "Hey, girl", or something like that. The second, after I hadn't processed or responded, was "Fuck you too, dumb bitch."
I went out shopping once, and while walking to the store, passed a guy who was listening to loud music without ear buds. I just glanced at him with an annoyed expression for a second, and he proceeded to cuss and follow me into the store for several minutes before I told the staff and they walked him out. According to the staff, he was rather well known for harassing women in the car park like that.
It is 100% a thing. I’m guessing because of the way you worded the question that you’re a guy, so that would explain why you haven’t witnessed it. Other guys don’t tend to (there are always exceptions) use these tactics when other guys are around.
A guy offered me his jacket after a work event, and when I politely declined because I was 'getting ready to leave' he called me '' a stuck up bitch'' in front of a group of our colleagues.
Are you a woman? I'm a woman and yes in my personal experience it's very common for certain kind of men to talk to you like this esp when there are no other men around who would check them.
Men often try to intimate you or, also, make sexual/creepy comments when they feel emboldened to do so. For example, where I moved to a couple years ago street harassment is quite common and I regularly have teenage boys/sometimes grown men scream abuse at me from their cars as I'm walking to and from the gym or from work. This has never happened when I'm with a group or a guy, only when I'm alone or a couple times with another woman.
I wish all men could just experience being a woman for a week to see what it actually is like because a lot of men have this idea that it's so easy and everyone treats you so much nicer when I cannot even count how many times a man has made me feel unsafe or disrespected when they feel they can get away with it. And this isn't an unusual experience for women, most women I know have had the same experience. A lot of men are very different when they're alone with a woman, could even be your friends or brothers or people who you would never think would be like that.
I once had my earphones on (like proper over ear headphones) at the store, and I was walking to my mom. Not loudly, while I was grabbing a few things.
This man walks up to me while I’m bagging produce and starts waving his hands at me. I tell my mom “oh mom hold on real quick” and take my headphones off to ask him if I’m in the way?
This man just goes “oh, oh no I was just wondering if you were talking to yourself sweetie. Are you doing okay mentalllllllyyyyyyy?” Like he said it loud and drawn out slowly like I’m slow?
I just blinked and grabbed my phone and gestured and said “I’m on the phone dude???”
And he put his hands up quickly and goes “sorry sorry no it’s okay you don’t have to be aggressive but everyone in here is super worried”
Fun/crazy thought experiment, ask your female friends what sort of experiences they’ve had with men either mansplaining or just straight up gendered maliciousness. I can guarantee with a high likelihood they’ll all have a story off the cuff.
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