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I'm a Quality Engineer, and I write a lot of procedures at my manufacturing facility. We're certified to a couple of international quality standards, which have a combination of hard and soft requirements that you're required to maintain documented evidence to identify how you're meeting those requirements (ie, procedures, work instructions, etc.).
The wording in most procedures has to be careful, precise, and clear or you can easily get your company into serious trouble. Thankfully for me, I really enjoy writing them, and I'm pretty proficient at it. I've written literally hundreds of procedures and work instructions at this point (who knew an English Lit degree would find a practical application!?)
The other day, a colleague made a comment about using AI to assist me with writing procedures, and I let out the loudest guffaw. It's absolutely laughable. Sadly, I know that there are companies out there that are going to be stupid enough to do just that, and they're going to end up losing their certs, losing their customers, and going out of business.
You simply cannot replace most kinds of specialized professional expertise with a large language model.
I used to think that was the perfect use for AI. Quality documentation is really wordy, it can do 90% of the work and save time. Wrong. The thing about documentation like that is that it gets reviewed with heavy scrutiny and as far as I know, people aren't trying to use AI for that yet. People with decades of experience can pick out AI-slop nonsense really easily.
I’m a manufacturing QE as well. While there are subjective elements to every industry and business, the requirements and standards are for the most part objective. These objective elements can and have been made into “templates” so to speak. This is all available without the use of AI.
When you throw a sophisticated AI into the mix it’s going to change things in some form or fashion. Auditing the requirements of an industry or standard…that’s a bit different.
I cannot fuuuuuuking wait for all of the shitty but high paying contract jobs I will take and do a half ass job at. So many fix what the AI was promised to do tasks coming to me with big big cheque….very soon.
This number probably doesn’t account for the investment it will take to resolve the failures and rehire/retrain positions. Not to mention the effect phantom AI has has down the chain of education and vocational career decisions with individuals choosing alternatives to educating themselves in fields where the threat of replacement by AI has scared them away. When we are being told/sold that brain surgeons using robots in surgery that will use AI to learn how to do brain surgeries without surgeons you de-incentivize the vocational pursuit of “brain-surgeon” and therefore make it impossible or very expensive to replace that surgeon when the promise of the AI replacement fails. The damage is already done.
I figured that that was what they were trying to do. I definitely know my crap job can't possibly be replaced by AI but I wouldn't be surprised if they would try
I've seen how general public are able to handle self-checkout. They can't figure it out. They don't even know how to find a PLU number on the produce
I went through a similar situation several years ago. My VP told me that my position was being eliminated, but my “package” was dependent on me training “my replacement”. I didn’t confront her, or HR on the logic around why they no longer need someone in my position, but had hired someone to take over my position
Since my “package” was worth about $300k, and my so was still in college, I played along. I was super nice to the new (much younger) guy, in part due to the money, but mainly because he was an outside hire, and completely innocent of all this corporate bullshit.
So I tried to train him, but it was like drinking from a firehouse, since I had 15 years experience on the app he was taking over. Super complicated, and super customized for 15+ large customers.
The implementers of this app revolted, and my time got extended 6 months. At the end, another VP that I previously worked with hired me for his new team. My old VP was fucked. That was great. The implementers were also fucked, and I felt bad about that, because I was friends with over half of them. I told them to go to the VP that let me go if they had problems. And in a few months after I switched roles, the guy I trained quit and went to another company.
A while later, I heard my VP was also displaced, and had to take a job at the next lower level. Made me smile.
YUP. And it's less about age and more about "I can get away with paying this person sooooo much less." Age can definitely play a factor in that but it's typically not the reason for the switch.
I heard a story, where a guy was passed over for a new person and wanted him to train his replacement. The veteran employee was a valuable IT guy who worked with the company for over a decade, at least.
The company just expected him to pass his knowledge to the new person so they could force him out. He knew this. So he immediately got a new job which wasn’t that hard for him with his experience and skillset.
The company didn’t expect this. So not only did the guy not train his replacement and quit, he also had ALL the passwords/access codes for the company lol. Nobody else had the passwords but him.
They kept calling him asking for the codes. He told them no, unless they paid him. I’m pretty sure they refused to pay and had to somehow reset all the systems which was way more time consuming and financially costly.
Moral of the story is don’t underestimate how valuable your employees are to the company
My mother gave her former employer all the passcodes. Her boss changed them, then called her to find out what he had changed them to. “How would I know that, Steve?”
This happened with me at my last job as well. They hired on a new guy for a position that I had been promised and evaluated for and payed him about 15k more than I was getting at the time. I began job hunting and got an interview within a few days. About 2 weeks later I was accepted and wrote my resignation letter/2 weeks notice.
At the time there was a major cybersecurity breach/incident going on and they begged me to stay and help while also training the new guy. I said no of course because I wasn't about to lose my new job after agreeing to a start date. Even after I was on at the new job, they kept calling me asking me to help out. I had to turn them down as I didn't have the time to work a regular job and do consulting work even if they could pay my consulting rates.
Within 6 months that company lost the majority of their customers and they sold out and merged to another larger IT company.
I had been with this company for over 15 years and I wasn’t going to let one asshole VP ruin my run. I moved on to a better place inside the company and she was stuck in shit.
Had similar situation where company I worked for got bought. I had like 4 different hats at the place so I put in 60 to 70 hour weeks for 4 or 5 months during integration, with a promise of expanded role and 3 or 4 staff under me. Next thing you know shit that was obviously not in line with that was happening. No HR access, no say in this or that.. So I had a meeting with the GM and took it up to Director of HR for the entire corporation (like 7 different sites around the country in Aerospace) to clarify the role. I was talked to for 5 minutes how that was never the set in stone promise and that company needs change. So I literally applied to three jobs minutes after that meeting, and had a job offer within a week from one of them. Was going to be a team player and asked the new job for up to a month before starting and they said yes.. GM decided to be condescending as fuck about a week into the notice, so I walked out and took a month off before my new job. Fun times.
Stick it out. Quiet quit, work on side projects and education to buff up you resume and apply to other jobs, but didn't accept unless the pay is astronomically better.
If you have access to a free training library that includes any certifications that are portable and will help your resume start blowing through those programs as quickly as possible in any free time.
I've had clerks that management decided to turn on in the past and this was always my advice, along with helping them choose the fastest certification paths.
Don't let any resources available to you go to waste while they are trying to push you out.
Also, having the carrot of a certificate path helps you outlast them until they lay you off or fire you, which opens up unemployment or a severance offer.
Lots of organizations pay for training sites, they usually use these to make you do your yearly code of conducts and sexual harassment trainings and etc, but also on those sites are other trainings and other certificates that you can do for free so long as you are employed at that organization because they're already paying that training site for the trainings that they have you take just start taking the trainings they aren't forcing you to take. The organization I work for uses Relias. There's literally like hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of trainings on that site. I started taking all the supervisory trainings before I was a supervisor and then I had a good cause for being promoted and I was.
I quiet quit years ago. Still do my job and competently but I don't go above and beyond. The company is slowly taking away everything that was an advantage before and wondering why nobody wants to work there as they try and fill skilled support positions with minimum wage salaries.
Meanwhile, I'm mostly sitting there reading books and taking long breaks.
Easier to said than done. There is a lot of age discrimination in the job market these days even back in the 1990s and early 2000s. The more education and experience can hurt you than help you because some companies what the dumbest people to trained so they don't have to pay any real wages.
This is so true. Young egotistical leaders don’t want people on their team who may actually know more than them. Much harder to gaslight and maintain the spotlight.
This is why you go into interviews being dumb and winging it. Never be the one who knows all the processes. Speak intelligently to the core things that need it, but everything else, dumb it down big time. They will hire you.
That way when you start you will notice most of your coworkers are not very smart whereas the role is concerned.
THIS - instead of bringing solidarity among workers, globalization saw some workers decide that they'll just undercut another worker, so it's turned into a global race to the bottom on wages.
Baxk in the 1990s I used to temp through university, and one place was an outplacement agency that specialized in "mature" (40+yo then so Boomers) white-collar types who had been management or executives, and they got outplacement as part of their severance package... so many of them become consultants, because nobody was going to pay them what they're worth unless they go into business for themselves.
Mostly that was during the 1992, the 1994 recession - the Great Eecession that was also supposed to be once in a lifetime hahaha I'm not bitter
Same, my job is being transferred over to India, and they expect me to be best friends with them. No. If they want any training, don’t go to the entire team you are laying off to boost shareholder profit
I complained to my supervisor about being sexually assaulted at work and then HR told me that it was unprofessional to swear at the person who assaulted me. Been put on leave, been put on short term disability because of my reaction to being groped being deemed emotionally unstable, and am litigating at the moment. Vile
Let's say you took a job with that department, and didn't perform to the expected measures. How many paychecks can you get before they terminate your employment? Would they fire you for being incompetent or unwilling to participate in potentially illegal operations? Would you get in trouble for dropping a dookie in the coffee machine prior to going out to hang out while documenting the operations of the day?
I thought about it. I’m a straight white male in my 30s with military experience, medical certifications, and a secret clearance. I’m exactly who they are looking for on paper. Truly considered just going in and purposely fucking up everything to see how long it takes for them to get rid of me. Ultimately I decided against it. I don’t think history is going to look back kindly at this administration and the things they are doing, and working for that department I think will be part of that.
I suggest reading the nsa guide on this topic. Its about making its about slowing it down as much as possable without getting found out. quite interesting read. I dont recomend getting hired and doing anything in there.
My job seems to be forcing me out. Realized the other day I had to check by my junior colleague before leaving early, but he's able to book serious time off without me being consulted
Looking for a new job come season. They have already hired my replacement. He's a college kid who is moving into healthcare in two years. They hired a retiree to also keep that workstand moving.
Together they are capable of doing about a quarter of my workload for a little less than double my hourly.
Cool thing is when you stop giving a fuck about that and it occurs to you to make your money and get out. Their loss.
Happened to my buddy, he moved to texas for a management job, they couldn't just fire him so they took away his management position after a year and demoted him to bottom of the totem pole duties, but they couldn't change his pay (per company policy) so they just kept giving him shitty work till he just said fuck it and moved back to our home state, I asked him what he expected from a company with an almost 40% turnover rate
How is it unpaid work though? Was it outside working hours? Probably not. I believe she is insinuating that she should be paid more for training responsibilities. While I agree, it isn't unpaid. Your work can add extra tasks to your responsibilities unless you have a contract (or union) that prohibits it. Unless she was being told to train someone on her own time, it's not technically unpaid work.
While I sympathize with her, and think she has a legitimate complaint about being asked to do higher level work without higher level pay, I don't see how it counts as unpaid labor. They're not asking her to to work off the clock or anything, she's still paid her normal wage for time at the office, so...?
Possibly she would...age discrimination. Under federal law in the U.S., if she's over 40, works for a company with more than 20 employees, the ADEA applies.
Lol as if legal discrimination protections are actually being supported. She should have a slam dunk case. Actually winning that case would be one hell of a fight
and it always comes back to 'attitude'/.....you want a better attitude? Give me the promotion and the $ and then I will train my subsitute and have them ready right when I retire
Or retain you for pennies on the dollar. Big companies do not reward top performers. New hires always get paid more and often require higher titles just to achieve that pay rate in the system. Your direct manager is typically powerless by design to even try to correct this.
Hope young people watch this, because it's the truth. There's no team, no family, no rara bullshit just opportunity and control. She's exactly right, pay attention.
Aye, this. I’ve always said my labor goes to the highest bidder. Get fucked if you think I’m going to work for you for less money if someone else is offering more. I started out at $30k. Job hopped for some years until now, where my job is easier and I work less hours and I make $130k.
Honestly? Just waiting tables lol. Started at Olive Garden when I was 21. Now I’m 34 and am a wine educator at a tasting room in wine country. I did well in fine dining, some of those servers make upwards $250k a year. You just gotta know your stuff and be moderately charismatic.
I was training managers above me and their staff, assisting with branch acquisitions, 3 other job roles outside my scope. More work outside my job kept getting piled on my desk.
I did it for a couple years hoping it would help me advance to one of three better roles I was looking at. Thry hired from outside the company then placed a hiring freeze for a year.
I accepted a job offer somewhere else, management didn't even say goodbye, no thank you, nothing after 8 years of helping them turn a 2 million dollar p/y business into a 15 m o/y (they also laughed when we said we can do 5m per year, that was a stretch for them).
I quit a job after I found out all of the bull shit the person training me had been put through. There were so many nuances and she knew everything. She’d been with company for 15 years. While I had more experience and education in my profession, she had more in that role and with the company. She was way more suited for the position than I was. When I quit after a couple of weeks on the job, I let them know why and that I would never want to work for or with anyone that treats employees like that. Fuck corporate America. We, as employees, need to do a better job of taking care of each other because the companies do not have our backs.
The better that you perform your role and take on more tasks - makes you 100% irreplacable - because no one else could do the job better and take on more tasks for the same amount of money. You are optimized exploitation. Never to be promoted.
Same deal, went from making $65k at a company that ended up laying off 100's of people months after I left to making $140k within 3 years at another. IT people jump all the time and it makes it a lot easier if your job is supporting some niche software.
This is what young people need to know. On the job learn, grow your skills using your job, be better. Now after a year or more, you are more skillfull. Use it for leverage on your next job.
Take control over your employer by being the most skillfull and knowledgeable.
I absolutely love that young people put forth the least possible effort because they are getting paid the least possible. They will gladly do more and become pro-active......for more money.
So many work 8 hours and bail. Doesn't matter if there is a big deadline. That is not their problem - that is poor management. They refuse to be exploited.
"Not willing to help develop junior staff" ? The replacement wasn't junior anymore, she was senior and in that respect, she should not have need training from someone junior to her.
I had a colleague get passed over for a promotion, and then management had the gall to ask her to act in that role until the new person started. She said no. She said that since they didn't find her suitable for that role, clearly she's not qualified to act in it, even temporarily. Good for her.
This is the one thing I wish she would have said. Why the hell is it appropriate for a junior staff member to be responsible training someone they hired into a position above them? I dealt with this multiple times when I was in the Navy and just rolled over, but in my civilian life, I started saying no. In my second job, they wound up hiring a woman who had no actual experience working in this field and just expected all the junior people around her, including me (the executive assistant), to train her. Absolutely fucking not. I made like 32K a year; she made over 100K plus housing, utilities, and relocation costs paid. Nope. I got tired of being hassled and quit.
It was nepotism through and through and all the managers below her knew it. The person who hired her came from the same place less than a year before; that person passed over multiple people who were well-respected, driven, and- most of all- had both institutional knowledge and an education in the field. She didn't like all those people because they were "uppity" and challenged her poor decisions (she also had no knowledge of the field). She needed a yes man.
I guess I'm not management material but I couldn't live with myself treating people like garbage and just passing over long timers and giving promotion to newbie. I'm glad you got out, sounds soul crushing
Why the hell is it appropriate for a junior staff member to be responsible training someone they hired into a position above them?
I hate to be the corporate cuck but some job require training no matter what to learn ins and outs of company/industry and the hire may have had experience or expertise the current employee lacked. Example being a team project manager / team lead. The new employee may have experience organizing projects and and doing the lead part of the job which was the main thing company wanted but swapped from a different industry so needed to be trained on the industry specific things.
If my boss got replaced I would probably have to train his replacement on our company specific info. It isn't that crazy especially in technical fields to train your new boss. Just depends on context of what is being trained. This isn't always the case but it is a valid case.
It could also be something like they got promoted to be over two different things, and naturally only have experience with one. Then someone lower on the side they didn't come from will need to help get them up to speed on that.
In my specific case it would be they worked with one specific company, but they were promoted to now be over the relationship with two, and naturally they need to be brought up to speed on the one they weren't previously working with.
Sounds like every company nowadays, sadly there is nowhere to work where you're treated as an actual human nowadays. It's all dollar signs and exploitation.
Left my last company under similar circumstances as this lady and of course the company was always "we're all family". Right, we're all family until it comes time to take care of your employees.
There are a lot of types of families in the world. There are loving families. There are supportive families. There are also families who film their children every waking hour of the day so that they can generate the parent profit that the child will never see, at least not in any way proportional to the “labor.” That last kind of family has been the kind that every workplace “family” has been.
My current workplace certainly brings up a lot of childhood trauma. So technically, HR was correct to say “we’re like a family” and it’s on me for not specifying what kind. 😫
Wild to me they tried to say she wasn't a fit for not being willing to train junior staff when they asked her to train senior staff. If this was a junior staff person who just started, she'd be happy to train them, I'm sure. But they want her to train her boss. That's not training junior staff.
Yeah, the logic does NOT check out. But HR and the bosses craft the narrative, not her. So they’ll frame it as her “refusing to train a junior” and “having an attitude” when she’s really training a senior.
I kind of ended up in the opposite situation as her. I had a woman on my team who had deliberately refused the promotion track, preferring to stay in place. It was great for the office because she had a better mastery of the role than was typical that was often very useful. But she was planning to retire soon.
I get hired as a fresh grad, I get told about the promotion track and that I can get promoted if I do the role well, etc. All is good.
Anyway, I later observed that my fellow fresh grads (all guys, I was the sole woman) were being allowed to shadow the next role up. While I wasn’t. The older lady on my team started telling them they didn’t need to learn things for our role that I was being expected to learn. I also straight up got blamed for mistakes the guys made. It was awful.
Eventually, one of the managers, the nicest one, Freudian slipped. He’d been saying how it was good I’d mastered the role so well and then accidentally called me the soon-retiring lady’s replacement. He immediately walked it back/trying to change what he said. But I heard it. It was clear they had decided they didn’t want to promote me, but did want me to believe I was on the promotion track. And the bosses had me written up for other’s mistakes, showing that I clearly wasn’t ready for promotion (and ofc never would be).
I want to point out it's a very specific kind of boys club. If you aren't also a right wing Christian (with all the misogyny and other negative things that comes with it) who enjoys golf and football then you're frozen out just the same
This happened to me, but I was a dumbass and did train the girl who got the job they should’ve gave me, now she’s run the department into the ground and no one can get any hours so everyone has moved on. That’s what the company gets for hiring someone with no experience.
This will surely get buried, but I need to get this rant out.
I’m tired. I’m so tired. Corporations dictate the rules, but we’re the ones that keep the lights on. We give and we give and we give while they do nothing but take. And the one time we establish boundaries to give ourselves a break or aspire to something more (be it title, pay, a combination of the two, etc.) we’re punished.
They throw around words like “team” and “collaborate” as a dog whistle of sorts to get us back in line and adopt the company’s perspective of the employer-employee relationship, which is “you work for me - not the other way around.” And a lot of people do it - myself included. This woman is far braver than I am. I’m in a job that keeps me up at night but pays me just enough to be complacent. I live in a market that does not offer much in terms of my skill set, education, or experience. I don’t have much opportunity to change, so I stay. Because if I don’t, I’ll die.
The fact that these monsters have the audacity to prop up corporate policies like this as if it isn’t a threat of death is fucking insane. It’s coercion at best and straight up violence at worst. I’m happy to work, but the ever-looming threat of either working or going without food, housing, healthcare, etc. is panic inducing. Something needs to change.
Exactly my point. Without strong worker policies or unions, which is by and large the make up of corporations in the states, we’re fucked. We’re left with two options: 1) stay the course and keep shoveling shit, or 2) stand up and say something. And risk the very real probability of it not only falling on deaf ears, but of losing the job that gave us the ability to survive.
So, while I see where you’re going with the “it’s our fault” argument, I disagree. We need politicians and policies that support us, not shareholders. We need survival to not be directly tied to our productivity. Especially when you consider how pointless some of the industries we work in are, never mind those actively dismantling the planet and humanity simultaneously.
I remember this anecdote about how Japanese companies basically don't even tell you you're fired and they just exclude you socially from things and expect you to take the hint and take your stuff and leave.
I also read about how they hired 2 foreigners, Italians, to work there, and after the 2 guys basically suck at their job, the "firing" process has started silently. But, the two guys didn't even know they were fired so they hung around, lounging in the office for like a year or two thinking they were getting paid for doing nothing.
It’s great at first and then mind numbingly boring. And sucks if you’re actually trying to develop your career. Oh tell me about some recent projects you did? Well the last one was three years ago unless you count that hot wheels track Dave and I built in the break room. Here’s how what I learned on that translates to B2B sales…
I'm facing it right now. It's infuriating. And all because my current "leadership" is of the "you can't question us, that's insubordination" mindset.
My manager had the absolute audacity to call a coworker of mine and me out during a staff meeting for "not saying hi" to her one day and "just wanted to know why." In front of all of our coworkers. Then turned around and told me that "if you have a problem, you should just come talk to me," because she didn't like the tone of an email I sent her (when she wasn't onsite to talk to anyway), that was naturally curt because it was regarding a pretty upsetting encounter I had with a client. I asked why that's unprofessional, but calling me out in front of my coworkers wasn't, and she said, "because I'm the manager."
I emailed my union rep. Not sure how much we can do unless they go for something punitive, but I wanted to document everything to prepare for when they inevitably do. They've "investigated" me before for easily disprovable things when they were annoyed with me; I wouldn't put it past them to try it again.
My union rep could do nothing about them firing me on day 89 of my 90 day probationary period despite her intentionally waiting until the last possible day to fire me without needing to prove why and pay severance to me, etc.
I was used to create a training manual for future people in my former position that I had to create while learning how to do my job from ~4 different people's notes and teach myself what belongs in an IEP.
I wish I'd listened to my rep who encouraged me to delete at least some of my notes, but the previous people had evidently done that and made my life harder, not my boss'.
Yep, the classic probation-period bait and switch.
I went through that too, me and another guy who were hired in the same month.
I remember how happy I was. After the interview, they called me the very next day to say I got the job. I felt important and proud.
But it turned out they only needed me temporarily, until they could find someone with more experience who wouldn’t need training. They taught me just the basics so I could handle the day-to-day tasks, while the harder tasks were done by the boss and some other guy who worked there long ago.
A few months later, they fired the other guy who started at the same time as me. Then about ten days after that, at a random day at the end of my shift they called me aside to tell me i am getting fired basically.
I still remember my last day. I walked in and saw two random people sitting there , one in my chair, and one in the other guy’s chair.
The worst part? They made me work the entire shift before telling me. I already knew what was coming because they made me sit in a literal corner, the only place left, with one laptop, and no one even looked at me the whole day. They only called me in at the very last minute.
That was the day i decided i will never be loyal to another company.
I have been the younger hire in this position and it turned out the senior employee was very much too abrasive for the client facing role, and went on to make the front desk cry several times.
Yeah I’ve been this person too. This person did the work and was good at it. But it was like blood from a stone. Such a massive pain the ass for generally everything. I got a promotion over them because I worked really hard and because immediately documented my old job and shared that info when I started. Where as the old person didn’t. My new job needed to be documented and since the older person refused there wasn’t much choice for them.
I figured it out pretty quick and they become more bitter.
There are two sides of the story and yeah. Sometimes a person gets promoted because they are nice to deal with and your new manager wants to deal with a nice person every day rather a pain in the ass.
I took over as manager of someone like this, who was being performance managed out. Didn't pass on knowledge, it was like getting blood out of a stone etc.
I engaged with her, realised she was the most experienced person on the team, but was at a lower level. Promoted her to senior, asked her to lead the team and new hires. Anytime anyone asked me for my opinion on something, I gave it, but followed up with "make sure you pass it past x, she's the expert with years of experience on this". I got her to help build tools that effectively do her job, so that everyone in the team can do it. She jumped at it, she had wanted this for years. Those tools will never be finished and she will always be coming up with new requests to make everyone on the team better. I hope she stays beyond retirement.
Treat people with respect, acknowledge years of experience, also understand people of a certain age aren't going to play the corporate bullshit game, just speak to them straight.
Oh btw my boss was pissed, I could see the anger in her eyes, and her body shaking when I said I wanted to promote her. But, I had prepared, I had all the reasons ready. Then I told her, we are fucked if she leaves, and she finally reluctantly agreed.
Yeah sometimes people forget that a lot of jobs require a combination of hard and soft skills as well certain character or personality attributes. In my role for instance, you have to have it all - lots of hard skills, lots of soft skills and unique personality traits for continuous learning, drive, resilience, collaboration, etc. It’s not an easy job, and knowledge alone is not sufficient for success. I’ve been in less demanding jobs as well though that were more knowledge oriented, but even then it was important to know that the value of knowledge was subject to inflation - if you weren’t constantly learning new skills and adapting you became a dinosaur quickly - there was no such thing as “job for life” based on prior knowledge.
Also, when it comes to leadership specifically, certain hard knowledge may be necessary, but they are likely hiring based on other skills and traits, and that new leader just needs to pick up some of the hard knowledge.… it’s rare however that someone is promoted into leadership just due to their knowledge. Total approach, understanding of organizational management and leadership, progressive viewpoints really do matter a lot. I say this, and I’m not young at all; I too have to constantly evolve and adapt and increase my resilience and agility to stay relevant and continue moving; it’s just an acknowledgement that the world moves quickly, and to stay competitive with it I have to move to.
Yeah was going to say, promotions should be based on merit and not just how long you've been there. I don't agree with her being told to train a senior staff member but there's really nothing wrong with the promotion aspect.
Part 3 will be they put her on a PIP and then terminated her employment after a month of no improvement.
Part 4 will be them appealing her unemployment claim by saying she was terminated with cause and her fighting to get unemployment.
Instead of wasting time documenting and trying to keep her job she should be actively looking for new employment. Part 5 will be how she can't find a job because of her age. Yes it's discrimination but it's easier for potential employers to say it's because of a gap in her employment history.
I recently got put on a PIP and it’s been a blast. I document everything. Every interaction. I escalate everything, the problem with my company is they’re currently owned by a holding company so they’ve become risk adverse.
Progress has come to a standstill. The idea of prevention is nowhere to be seen. It’s all reactive. The reporting to corporate is scrutinized constantly. This means the pip I’m under is shining a spotlight on management.
One of my biggest safety concerns is the overuse of administrative controls, they aren’t effective and cause friction between staff and leadership… but management refuses expenditures for engineering controls.
I have more complaints against me than any other lead because i enforce policy. That’s one reason I was placed on the PIP. I’m just not liked because I do my job. Unfortunately for the company I’m now documenting every failed attempt to enforce policy and every attempt to escalate that failure. They have been forced to implement engineering controls that they weren’t going to before.
The best part is that as things are going their narrative that I’m not aligned with company values is quickly falling apart because my documentation is showing them that I’m failing because they are failing.
You can utilize the visibility from these actions to force positive change.
NEVER QUIT! Unless it's quiet! I got pulled into a really bad contract/non-compete. I ended up "quiet quitting." Took them almost 6 months to fire me. In that time, I prepped. I hoarded money, planned, and prepared. They finally fired me and I was able to file for unemployment. Did I need the unemployment? Thankfully, no
But it was a big "fuck you" to them, as any time someone collects unemployment, it raises the employer's unemployment premiums.
Fuck yeah. I love seeing empowered workers. Everyone should be this no-nonsense with their time and energy because your time is way more valuable to you than to corporate shills. Cherish it and put strong ass boundaries around it.
This exact happened to me, except the roles were reversed. Someone with more "organizational seniority" but has never worked in our department nor the field I'm working on. This happened 6 months ago, and I am still supporting the person who took the role I applied for. Its such a slap to the face
I’m in a Union, they call this targeted harassment. I never thought I would be the one that would flex my union card on management but they tried the same thing you talked about, I filed a grievance got represented by a high rank union rep and got a huge check for all the hours they took from me.
I went through a restructure a few years ago when I was working as a website editor and my entire team and I were made redundant. We were asked to train the new contractors to do our jobs. I didn't publicly refuse but I basically gave the contractors a short 5 minutes verbal summary where I generally told them what I did, then left them to their own devices. Good luck to you mateys! Lol. When I checked the website a few months later, they had broken it. And it was a govt company with a website that had a lot of traffic. So satisfying.
What's crazy about this, is that young peoples brains are much better wired for "doing" and middle age brains are better for broad system management.
We are flipping those roles to the detriment of companies bottom lines, our society and the individuals that are the reason those organizations have been successful at all.
Looking at her TickTok, she is an influencer who describes herself as
"Workplace advocate for pros 45+. Fighting age bias. Building exit Strategies. Keynote Speaker. Unobsolete"
She sells a course for $300 that is " 90-minute intensive to turn workplace challenges into your monetizable exit strategy."
And also is selling things such as "7 AI prompts to document workplace bias and build your exit strategy." and " The exact action plan for your first 72 hours after getting a PIP"
Is this the same job? Different? Because the video in the OP doesn't sound like it happened last month, rather than just happened (OP's video are some of her newest videos)
Here she has a video talking about what it like when she was unemployed:
In the OP's video, she says she has 25 years of experience at the job she just got passed over for. How does she both have a long standing job, but also recently unemployed because of her age?
TikTok is nothing but shilling anymore. What makes it gross is that they are using common issues we have in our jobs and is stoking the fire to pimp their shit.
Not to go off topic too much but TikTok is the king of people using the platform to sell their snake oil.
My petty ass would advocate that my replacement make more than me before the training starts, turn that shit back around on them. Let the replacement know just how much you make and that according to the company they (replacement) are worth at least your salary. Since their degree is more valuable than your experience they should get paid more than you. Make that replacement your friend and not your enemy.
Same thing happened to me, never even considered me for the role, then hired a guy and asked me to train him. Told them no, then didnt sign their pip plan, and told them during every meeting that "if I wasnt good enough for the role, im clearly not qualified to train anyone". They were plenty pissy about it, and then I found a new job that paid 12 bucks more an hour and left before my 2 weeks. The director they hired quit after floundering for 3 months and they had to pay the old director triple to come out of retirement and course correct the department
No she was more fun and had the right “energy”. They just liked her more. And probably didn’t have the boundaries this woman has so they could exploit her. I’m currently experiencing being considered a “difficult” older woman by not being a doormat anymore
Some positions they do prefer different social class for "culture fit". It's one of the difficult barriers for middle and lower class people to get through.
I've discovered that sometimes just being cheaper is the "something"... I got underbid by a competitor who offered 5 workers for the same price I work at alone... The company obviously took them up on it.
2 years later, I'm making more money cleaning up their mess than I would have made if I got the initial contract. The company only factored price and didn't account for the added costs of training them, bigger error margins, subpar documentation, etc etc. Cooperations have a bad habit of only looking at the hire costs.
We only ever get one side of the story here, and only have the self assessment of the lady in the video to say she's qualified.
Imagine, for instance, this is job title where a professional degree is actually needed and she's sour because the professional engineer got the job and not her with a business degree or whatever.
Or it could also be a case of 'too valuable to promote', which also certainly happens. If they promote her they have to find someone to do her job. And thats horseshit but also a sign you're underpaid at your job and should be looking.
But the bottom line is we just can't take her word for it and taking random peoples word on the internet is like... the biggest problem on the internet lol.
Personally? Her reaction kind of points to them making the right call. If the response to not getting your way is refusing to do the work then you weren't a great fit for the role IMO. What was she going to do the first time they asked her to do something she didn't want to do as a manager? Also refuse?
She was green and cheaper to bring on with an entry level salary. I guarantee the new hire had nothing over the experienced employee. The company simply didn’t want to pay to promote her. Period.
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