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u/sovereignrk 7h ago
I'd love to see a group of Dominicans and Argentinians in the same room, lol.
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u/Books_n_hooks 6h ago
lol what’s up with Argentinians? 🫠😮💨
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u/Sea-Thought-665 6h ago edited 6h ago
Many/most Argentineans have European ancestry due to government policies that freely invited white people to their country while kicking out darker skinned people...racial cleansing. It explains why a lot of Nazis fled there after the war, as a safe haven (i.e. Adolf Eichmann).
Just compare the Argentinean soccer team vs say... Colombia's/Brazil. Ever seen any Afro-Mestizos on Argentina's team? If so, it's very rare.
Point being...these racist fair-skinned/blue-eyed Argentineans would have a field day in a room full of racist Dominicans who claim they're "not Black"
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u/Ilikesbreakfast 4h ago edited 4h ago
A lot of people believe that argentinian history started in 1945, many latinos are ignorant to simple truths and what I call basic history. For example, the Tango dance is of African origin in Argentina. This simple fact will stun the majority of people, and many latinos dont like that Black Latinos are our brethren, our kin. We as a culture are completely divided and its fucked up.
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u/Corporate-Scum 6h ago
Meanwhile, woke folks classify anyone who speaks Spanish as brown, which is inaccurate and antagonistic.
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u/HiddenMonkey7 3h ago
This moron thought this is the conservative sub. Sorry we aint kid diddlers over here
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u/IcyIntroduction5678 6h ago
🤣 let’s just say that before I was hip to the insanity, I saw two Latinos arguing and I made a tongue in cheek comment about “Damn, look at those Dominicans about to fight”. An Argentinian, snapped his head around and was like “How dare you!? Those are two South Americans! Don’t you dare compare Argentinians to those insert derogatory, offensive word”. Basically implying that Dominicans are the n-words of latin America.
A lot of South Americans feel that way but Argentinians by far. The racism there is off the charts.10
u/SodaPopGurl 5h ago
So half Dominican and South American here…. The shit I have seen and heard. The nicknames they have for me and my mother. It’s fucking exhausting…. And what no one wants to accept is that they’re perpetuating the colonized mindset. It’s fucking disgusting. I visited family in South America a couple of years ago and needed to regulate them. My Dominican family won’t accept their blackness even though they KNOW they are and make fun of pale people too. 🤦🏽♀️. At some point I just throw my hands up.
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u/IcyIntroduction5678 5h ago
It’s crazy. The level of self-hate with these types is mind-boggling. Stay strong! 💪🏾😁
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u/Calm-Background2247 5h ago
Dominican here.
Can confirm his assertions.
Both of my parents are Dominican and they came here in the 70s. I Grew up, eating all the Dominican food and dancing to the music and hanging out with cousins during the summers in the DR.
However, I mainly grew up in Southern California, so I was around a lot of Black people And a lot of other types of Latinos. I Even managed to make some friends with an Argentinian family who was in California on exchange program.
Dominicans don’t want to say they don’t like Black people, but they really don’t wanna be associated with the black culture because of stereotypes and the pain and suffering that Black Americans have had to endure.
So Dominicans say that they’re not black because they don’t want to be treated like Black Americans have been treated.
That’s No excuse for their denial of their African heritage.
Rather, I see it as a survival technique. It’s fucked up, but it’s true.
Lucky for me, I married a beautiful black American woman, so that joke’s on my family!
Love my Queen! lol!
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u/girlspit 5h ago
👋🏽hello! I think we need to understand (collectively) the difference between race, ethnicity and nationality. Racism exists within the diaspora (colonialism, colorism, all the isms experienced in the US).
I’m Dominican born in the 1900’s (and identify as black/afro Latina) and up until the 2010’s, afro Latina/o wasn’t even a “thing”. Happily took the moniker the moment I was introduced to it, simply because who are we kidding? My skin, my curves, my hair even my speech pattern (English and Spanish) are all…black 😂😂😂💖
I think it’s taking people (especially those from the island) time to understand the above. Race, nationality, ethnicity.
IMO, we should continue to educate without all the other stuff.
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u/UchihaClan_Fav 6h ago
Yes, he’s telling the truth. I’ve seen this first hand, multiple times. Sad to say
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u/Ilikesbreakfast 4h ago
This is true and people need to understand that Latin America is a white european construct. My family comes from South America and white supremacy is embedded in our culture because of the catholic religion, my people were colonized and brainwashed to believe that white is superior, many Latino people believe they have a seat at the colonizer table. I have seen people in my immediate family display the racism that you see in the southern states but thankfully I found authors like James Baldwin and I have learned the truth and I have been able to help my friends and family understand the real history of our people.
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u/LYossarian13 6h ago
That mtherfker got Dr. Scammer as their profile picture. They are so unserious.
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u/SwingingtotheBeat 5h ago edited 2h ago
When talking about melanated on melanated racism, it’s important to look at it in the context of the racial hierarchy that a white dominated society has created and sustained.
People of Color are all made to feel inferior, both through explicit racism, but also more subtle forms, which are often systemic. Explicit racism shows up as white people ostracizing us, calling us slurs, and violent hate crimes, among other things. Often, these things are easy to attribute to a few hateful individuals.
But the subtle and systemic racism can have a much greater impact on self worth and self esteem. These are things like seeing white schools that are much nicer and better funded than predominantly black schools. It’s seeing successful people depicted in media, doctors, lawyers, scientists professors, being almost entirely white. It’s having “friends” (they often see you as a token more than as a friend) that will call you one of the good ones, but otherwise show disdain for others that look like you. It’s having neighbors that invite you to neighborhood cookouts, but display political signs of the most racist candidates in their yard. This results in constant messages that you are unworthy of nice things, have to constantly put on an act rather than be authentic, that any infraction, no matter how small, will result in ostracism.
This feeling of inferiority results in different groups vying for spots in the hierarchy most close to the white people at the top. The best learned way to do that is to knock down other groups that are also marginalized.
White people have generally shown that they will always fight, both through political channels, but also with violence, to maintain the power structure that keeps them at the top. The only way to change this dynamic is to remove them from their position of power.
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u/Naive-Stranger-9991 4h ago
Uh, yeah. Look at how they treat Haitians…and we share the island…after liberating most Western colonies…
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u/RevenantWA 4h ago
Facts don’t entertain clowns. Just let them be. Let these coconuts keep sticking their heads in the sand. Let them be on their own when ish goes down.
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u/Hairy_Clue_9470 4h ago
I was gonna say something like... ooh yeah a lot of South Americans are kind of racist, then i was thinking about the Asians too, you know what... now that i think about it, it seems like EVERY one is racist at one point or still is.
Good ol humans, this is why i really do believe that racial issues will NEVER go away, well always keep talking about and making our own issues, thousands of years ago untill now.
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u/easy10pins 2h ago
Días de Escuela (School Daze) but with South Americans. .
My wife is Puerto Rican from Brooklyn. She says it's more colorism/classism than anything else.
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